Re: Still Tryin' To Get There

I did solve the solenoid problem, it was the safety switch not being
properly aligned. I'm gonna stay on the problem 'til I solve it.

Michael

----- Original Message -----
From: "bob h" <omniverse@...>
To: <omc-boats@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 1:26 PM
Subject: Re: Still Tryin' To Get There

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Frenn" <semsc@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 1:19 PM
> Subject: Still Tryin' To Get There
>
>
> > Purchased a '65 Evinrude Sweet 16 about 2.5 years ago.
> >
> > Couldn't get it to run (or even start).
> >
> > Tried to start, solenoid wasn't firing. By-passed solenoid and jumped
> from
> > the battery. Fired up!!!!
> >
> > Oh no, would NOT shut off! Water pump gone for sure, had to kill motor
by
> > disconnecting fuel line.
> >
> > Sigh, the reason it wouldn't start was that the throttle lever was not
in
> > idle. There's a safety switch to prevent what I forced to happen, i.e,
> > start at above idle speed. The thing ran like hell, I hope I didn't
> damage
> > the lower end, or seriously overheat anything - it ran for 2-3 minutes,
> I'm
> > sure. I'm hoping it will turn off this time.
> >
> > If anyone has experience with these older motors, especially the
magentos,
> I
> > have a couple of questions and could really use the help.
> >
> > I probably could have avoided the last fiasco, but not having an owner's
> > manual makes it a totally blind approach. Plus the local marine shop
> where
> > I've dropped a few $$ for parts says they won't touch it - too old.
They
> > one thing only to have another break, they don't want to bother. can't
> > really blame 'em, but it means I've got to do it all.
> >
> > If it starts and turns off, then I'm heading to the lake and I'll try to
> > tune it there.
>
> Trimmed your mail down a bit to save reading again. Hey, sure seems
> possible, so I'll say have a great ride on the water.
> The sad thing about it is how you sound an awful lot like me. heh-heh
>
> I knew about that safety switch pretty soon after getting my boat since
the
> previous owner gave me a manual for a similar motor which he had
photocopied
> from a shop (yeah, most boat shops don't care for these old boats). Then I
> bought a repair manual at Ken Cook's web site for the right motor. It
didn't
> occur to me right away that it wasn't a kill switch instead so that took
> some getting used to.
>
> If it's any consolation, once I was checking on firing the engine up and
> didn't have water hooked up to the lower unit because I was only trying to
> get a fired cylinder confirmation (no wonder they always say to never run
> without water!). The ignition switch was tricky, key was stuck in it for
> years too, and the throttle was set high so when it started it revved up
and
> ran for probably 1/2 minute before I got it cut off. That was with an
> impeller it had when I got it and it still worked for a couple years
before
> the engine quit running for other reasons. With any luck it wasn't enough
to
> damage it but you won't know until you test for it seeing the water stream
> flowing out after it warms up.
>
> I don't know of magnetos, or about boats in general but I'm learning, so I
> probably can't help out.
>
> I might as well tell of my partial success too while I'm here. I had no
> spark, which seems much like what you were having trouble with, Michael.
>
> Turned out to most likely be a breaker point retaining screw being
stripped
> and unable to get good enough ground. I went through getting a new coil,
an
> automotive condensor as opposed to the whole "tuneup kit" and finally the
> breaker points in that tuneup kit. I knew that screw wasn't holding well
but
> it was enough in place I figured it to be okay (was oily behind it too).
> Aside from all that the engine turned over and sputtered to life, as they
> say, for the first time in several years. It was a nice sound, ran for a
> couple minutes (water hose attached!). I had forgotten how it deeply
> resonates. Either that or being under a metal carport and engine cover
> opened made it more prominent.
> Anyway... I still haven't checked on it with the several new screws I
bought
> to try for one that fits better in the now useless hole for the original
> screw. The new problem is fuel starvation, just like with yours I guess,
> Michael. I had done all that carburetor stuff before, cleaned fuel
> filter/bowl, etc. The outlet line has a leak in the rubber inside a copper
> braiding so temporarily that's taped over. But the level in the glass bowl
> (maybe not all boats have one) isn't reaching the top where it should flow
> out. I suspect the pump isn't able to get suction because of the leaky
line
> or clogging of the intake line from the tank due to gummy deposits in
there
> from being dry so many years. Even though I had emptied it maybe there was
> something else I could have done as well (I did pour plain gas through
too).
> So, I'll figure it out after I take the lines off and check for flow.
Today
> and tomorrow the temperature is sufficiently high to make me hold off my
> enthusiasm but next weekend should prove out to be a back in the water
> event.
>
> Wishing both of us good luck.
>
> Bob H.
>
>
>
Received on Monday, 3 June 2002