[omc-boats] RE: omc-boats-digest V1 #176 from Gregory B. Fell on 2004-07-20 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: Gregory B. Fell <gfell@...>
Date: Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:05:40 -0500

I checked on the wiring, which appeared to be fine. I'm not entirely
confident in my electrical diagnosis skills, though. I pulled the fuel
sender. I asked my dad if he had ever replaced it. He had not. That was
certainly confirmed when I removed it. I think if I would have breathed on
it too hard, it would have turned to rust dust and blown away in the wind.
35 years old. It's hard to believe it lasted that long. Thanks to Lee
Shuster for the website. I ordered a new sender and expect to have it
installed this weekend. Common sense tells me that was the problem. Even
if it isn't, it's not like it's a bad idea to replace it. I'll let you know
how it turns out.

Gregory B. Fell
The Fell Law Firm
3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700
Dallas, Texas 75219
972-488-8177
214-219-4218 - fax
gfell@...

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]On
Behalf Of lib1@...
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 11:58 PM
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: omc-boats-digest V1 #176

Recently, I located a new Stewart-Warner fuel sender for $22.00, (with
adjustable arm to compensate for tank depth) at one of the local semi truck
parts distributors that was listed on the S-W website. The original was was
rusted out and no longer changing resistance. The five-bolt pattern for
mounting the sender is pretty common. Had the tank out anyways for a
cleaning and coating.

Lee Shuster
Salt Lake

PS -- The original pre-67 guages are in unique (square) housings. Maybe
Aqua-Meter, Airguide or S-W supplied them to OMC, but they were unique to
OMC. Presently, my Sportsman tach on my V6 Buick is currently reading
exactly double what it should, which would be the same pulse count as a
2-stroke (12-pole) alternator output. This winter I'll tear it down and see
what's behind the meter faceplate.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
To: <omc-boats-digest@...>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: omc-boats-digest V1 #176

> Lee, The gauges are fairly common ( esp. tachs) on e-bay in various stages
> from NOS to well used. They made plenty of them for all different models
of
> boats I would guess. I still don't know who made them but I would guess
> Stewart Warner. I always thought the gauges on my Rogue kinda looked like
> the ones on vintage Mustangs and other Fords. To Greg Fell, I would check
> the wiring at the tank first and then under the dash. I had a
nonfunctioning
> gauge that worked after fixing the ground at the sending unit. It was
making
> poor contact. It had been broken for years and when I fixed it I noticed
the
> gauge would only go to about 1/4 a tank. I pulled the tank this winter to
> clean and paint it and found the float was binding in the pickup tube - a
> simple fix. I was lucky cause I just knew I would have to replace the
> sending unit which would have been a real PIA trying to find etc. I think
> the sending unit is made by Stewart Warner. Good luck! TK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "omc-boats-digest" <owner-omc-boats-digest@...>
> To: <omc-boats-digest@...>
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:00 PM
> Subject: omc-boats-digest V1 #176
>
>
> >
> > omc-boats-digest Thursday, July 15 2004 Volume 01 : Number
> 176
> >
> >
> >
> > Re: Question
> > RE: Question
> > fuel guage
> >
> > ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2004 15:26:11 -0600
> > From: "lib1" <lib1@...>
> > Subject: Re: Question
> >
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> >
> > Excellent topic for more discussion. OMC tended to use top-grade stuff,
=
> > but you are right finding the right part to retain the originality is =
> > tough. For example, anyone know who OEM'ed our boats instruments?
> >
> > Lee
> > Salt Lake
> > ----- Original Message -----=20
> > From: Thomas Klauber=20
> > To: omc-boats@...=20
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:35 PM
> > Subject: Question
> >
> >
> > Anybody out there got any idea on finding out who made component parts
=
> > for the Evinrude boats? Like who made the aluminum rub rails for these =
> > boats and sold them to Evinrude? Who made the plastic light lenses? =
> > Where did this stuff come from and how do we go about recreating them to
=
> > keep our boats looking good. The remaining spare parts are few and hard
=
> > to find. Any price would be reasonable considering the price of a new =
> > boat with its attendant expenses. I've been thinking about this for some
=
> > time and thought I would throw it out for discussion. Also I have =
> > learned that the best sealer for the transom seal is 3M 101 Marine =
> > Sealant. It is nasty stuff , messy but it works better than anything =
> > else. I tried several types of silicone sealant and they don't seem to =
> > work as well. Hope everyone is enjoying the water this summer. Be =
> > thinking about that winter project. I think I''ll tear down and re-do =
> > the sterndrive. Still got some minor trim in the cockpit to do and still
=
> > need to get the wiring shipshape! Tom K.
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> > <DIV>Excellent topic for more discussion. =
> > OMC tended to=20
> > use top-grade stuff, but you are right finding the right part to retain
=
> > the=20
> > originality is tough. For example, anyone know who OEM'ed our boats
=
> >
> > instruments?</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>Lee</DIV>
> > <DIV>Salt Lake</DIV>
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> > href=3D"mailto:tklauber@...">Thomas=20
> > Klauber</A> </DIV>
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> > title=3Domc-boats@...=20
> > href=3D"mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</A> =
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> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 =
> > 8:35=20
> > PM</DIV>
> > <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">Subject: Question</DIV>
> > <DIV> </DIV>
> > <DIV>Anybody out there got any idea on =
> > finding out who=20
> > made component parts for the Evinrude boats? Like who made the =
> > aluminum rub=20
> > rails for these boats and sold them to Evinrude? Who made the plastic
=
> > light=20
> > lenses? Where did this stuff come from and how do we go about =
> > recreating them=20
> > to keep our boats looking good. The remaining spare parts are few and
=
> > hard to=20
> > find. Any price would be reasonable considering the price of a new =
> > boat with=20
> > its attendant expenses. I've been thinking about this for some =
> > time and=20
> > thought I would throw it out for discussion. Also I have learned that
=
> > the best=20
> > sealer for the transom seal is 3M 101 Marine Sealant. It is nasty =
> > stuff ,=20
> > messy but it works better than anything else. I tried several types of
=
> >
> > silicone sealant and they don't seem to work as well. Hope everyone is
=
> >
> > enjoying the water this summer. Be thinking about that winter project.
=
> > I think=20
> > I''ll tear down and re-do the sterndrive. Still got some minor trim in
=
> > the=20
> > cockpit to do and still need to get the wiring =
> > shipshape!   =20
> > Tom K.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
> >
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> > ------------------------------
> >
> > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 08:24:02 -0500
> > From: "Gregory B. Fell" <gfell@...>
> > Subject: RE: Question
> >
> > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> > Speaking of instruments - I just went for my first ride of the summer
and
> > found the my fuel gauge is not working. Any suggestions on where to
start
> > with the diagnosis.
> >
> > Gregory B. Fell
> > The Fell Law Firm
> > 3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700
> > Dallas, Texas 75219
> > 972-488-8177
> > 214-219-4218 - fax
> > gfell@...
> >
> > - -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-omc-boats@...
[mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]On
> > Behalf Of lib1
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:26 PM
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Subject: Re: Question
> >
> > Excellent topic for more discussion. OMC tended to use top-grade stuff,
> but
> > you are right finding the right part to retain the originality is tough.
> For
> > example, anyone know who OEM'ed our boats instruments?
> >
> > Lee
> > Salt Lake
> > - ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Thomas Klauber <mailto:tklauber@...>
> > To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:35 PM
> > Subject: Question
> >
> > Anybody out there got any idea on finding out who made component parts
for
> > the Evinrude boats? Like who made the aluminum rub rails for these boats
> and
> > sold them to Evinrude? Who made the plastic light lenses? Where did this
> > stuff come from and how do we go about recreating them to keep our boats
> > looking good. The remaining spare parts are few and hard to find. Any
> price
> > would be reasonable considering the price of a new boat with its
attendant
> > expenses. I've been thinking about this for some time and thought I
would
> > throw it out for discussion. Also I have learned that the best sealer
for
> > the transom seal is 3M 101 Marine Sealant. It is nasty stuff , messy but
> it
> > works better than anything else. I tried several types of silicone
sealant
> > and they don't seem to work as well. Hope everyone is enjoying the water
> > this summer. Be thinking about that winter project. I think I''ll tear
> down
> > and re-do the sterndrive. Still got some minor trim in the cockpit to do
> and
> > still need to get the wiring shipshape! Tom K.
> >
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> > > style=3D'mso-bidi-font-weight:
> > normal'> > style=3D'font-size:
> > 12.0pt'>Speaking of instruments =96 I just went for my first ride of the
=
> > summer
> > and found the my fuel gauge is not working. > yes">=A0
> > Any suggestions on where to start with the =
> > diagnosis.<o:p></o:p>
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> > From: =
> > owner-omc-boats@...
> > [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] > style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On
> > Behalf Of lib1 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 14,
=
> > 2004
> > 4:26 PM 
> > To: =
> > omc-boats@... 
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> > Question
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> > > color=3Dblack
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> > topic for more discussion. OMC tended to use top-grade stuff, but you =
> > are right
> > finding the right part to retain the originality is tough. For example,
=
> > anyone
> > know who OEM'ed our boats instruments? > color=3Dblack><span
> >
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> >
> > > color=3Dblack
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> > Lake > style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:
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> >
> > <div style=3D'font-color:black'>From: > color=3Dblack
> > face=3DArial> > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
> > href=3D"mailto:tklauber@..." =
> > title=3D"tklauber@...">Thomas
> > Klauber</a> </div>
> >
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
> >
Arial;color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p>=
> >
> >
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> > font-weight:bold'>To: > face=3DArial><span
> > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <a
> > href=3D"mailto:omc-boats@..." =
> > title=3D"omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</a>
> > > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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> > >
> >
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> > face=3DArial> > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;
> > font-weight:bold'>Sent: > face=3DArial><span
> > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> Tuesday, July
=
> > 13, 2004
> > 8:35 PM<span
> >
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> > Question<span
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> >
> > > style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;
> > margin-left:39.75pt;border:none;mso-border-left-alt:solid black 1.5pt;
> > padding:0in;mso-padding-alt:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt'> > color=3Dblack
> > face=3DArial> > style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Anybody
> > out there got any idea on finding out who made component parts for the =
> > Evinrude
> > boats? Like who made the aluminum rub rails for these boats and sold =
> > them to
> > Evinrude? Who made the plastic light lenses? Where did this stuff come =
> > from and
> > how do we go about recreating them to keep our boats looking good. The
> > remaining spare parts are few and hard to find. Any price would be =
> > reasonable
> > considering the price of a new boat with its attendant expenses. I've =
> > been
> > thinking about this for some time and thought I would throw it out
=
> > for
> > discussion. Also I have learned that the best sealer for the transom =
> > seal is 3M
> > 101 Marine Sealant. It is nasty stuff , messy but it works better than =
> > anything
> > else. I tried several types of silicone sealant and they don't seem to =
> > work as
> > well. Hope everyone is enjoying the water this summer. Be thinking about
=
> > that
> > winter project. I think I''ll tear down and re-do the sterndrive. Still
=
> > got
> > some minor trim in the cockpit to do and still need to get the wiring
> > shipshape!    Tom K. > color=3Dblack><span
> >
style=3D'color:black;mso-color-alt:windowtext'><o:p></o:p><=
> > /p>
> >
> > </div>
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> > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2004 10:55:33 EDT
> > From: Pated66@...
> > Subject: fuel guage
> >
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> > Greg,
> > I'd start with a general check of the wiring under the dash, especially
> the
> > grounds.
> > If you ran the tank down, you can (easier with a helper) disconnect the
> leads
> > going form the tank to the guage and put a meter across them. Check the
> > resistance as your helper fills the tank. This will tell you if the
> problem is
> > with the sending unit in the tank, or within the guage itself.
> >
> > Which boat do you have?
> > Paul Tedder
> > Nashua NH
> > currently boatless :-(
> >
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> > I'd start with a general check of the wiring under the dash, especially
> the=20=
> > grounds. 
> > If you ran the tank down, you can (easier with a helper) disconnect the
> lead=
> > s going form the tank to the guage and put a meter across them. 
> Check=20=
> > the resistance as your helper fills the tank.  This will tell you
if
> th=
> > e problem is with the sending unit in the tank, or within the guage
> itself.<=
> > BR>
> > 
> > Which boat do you have? 
> > Paul Tedder 
> > Nashua NH 
> > currently boatless :-(</HTML>
> >
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> >
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> >
> >
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