[omc-boats] Re: omc-boats-digest V1 #524 from Thomas Klauber on 2006-07-03 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: Thomas Klauber <tklauber@...>
Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 20:42:32 -0400

I used a mix and pour polyurethane foam that is closed cell and compatible
with epoxy resins that I bought from an online source called Fiber Glast. It
is labled 24/25 and I used 2 gallons of each for a total of 4 gallons that
will cost a couple hundred bucks. Start with a small amount and order more
if needed. It is dead on like the original. It works fast and is fun to play
with. Go to Home Depot and get some of those graduated polyethylene cups and
buckets to measure and mix the stuff. They are reusable if you want to take
the trouble. You can do a lot with any that you have left over. The company
gives good service and the stuff is shipped to your doorstep in several days
and is fresh material. I bought all the stuff to do the floor including
resins, glass cloth and tools to spread the resins. What fun!!! Lots of time
and money but go price a new boat and its taxes for a little incentive! Tom
K.
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> Here a link for foam.
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> http://www.shopmaninc.com/foam.html
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> They make West System products as well. Has to be a poly type foam or the
> epoxy resin will eat it.
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> I'm not sure of the weight to use myself.
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> What kind of foam do you use to fill back in? Where do you get it? How
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> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 21:55:50 -0400
> From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
> Subject: [omc-boats] floor
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> I took the Rogue to the river today and we all had a wonderful time. I =
> am 54 and I do not get up on the skis like I used to but got up on 2 =
> skis. I am out of shape which is what happens when you have a desk job =
> and do not work out. About the flooring I now remember some techniques I =
> used last time. It is absolute that the new floor is the same height as =
> original if you have sides or other stuff to fit back in place after the =
> new floor. I cut the old floor out leaving several inches of old glass =
> laminate at the edges to give you the proper height of the new floor. =
> The plywood does not directly bolt to the stringers - you have a small =
> amount of foam sandwiched between stringer and plywood. I did the foam =
> in small sections and used an approximate 3 by 3 foot section of heavy =
> plywood and would put one edge in the groove at the edge of the floor =
> and the other over the stringer using a block of wood to raise the edge =
> of the plywood piece off the stringer the appropriate height for the new =
> floor. I would pour the foam mixture and then put a thick piece of =
> polyethelyne between foam and plywood piece and I would stand on the =
> plywood to keep the foam from overexpanding. You are controlling the =
> height of the foam with your weight and the flat surface of plywood. The =
> plastic keeps the foam from sticking to the plywood. First pour the deep =
> parts of the hull to a level say 6 inches below the floor. The foam =
> loses its expansibility when used in smaller amounts. The foam would =
> shortly rise to the proper height and you pull the plastic sheet and =
> plywood off and go down the line using the edges as shoulders for the =
> next batch. You can use an electric sander to level the surface if =
> necessary. I poured a small layer of fiberglass resin over the foam =
> before putting on the plywood floor. I am going to make a movie or =
> pamphlet next time I do a floor. I saw several older trihulls on the =
> water today. No Johnson/Evirudes though. I have yet to see one of our =
> species. Hope all have a safe happy 4th of July. TK
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> <DIV>I took the Rogue to the river today and =
> we all had=20
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> but got=20
> up on 2 skis. I am out of shape which is what happens when you have a =
> desk job=20
> and do not work out. About the flooring I now remember some techniques I =
> used=20
> last time. It is absolute that the new floor is the same height as =
> original if=20
> you have sides or other stuff to fit back in place after the new =
> floor. I=20
> cut the old floor out leaving several inches of old glass laminate at =
> the edges=20
> to give you the proper height of the new floor. The plywood does not =
> directly=20
> bolt to the stringers - you have a small amount of foam sandwiched =
> between=20
> stringer and plywood. I did the foam in small sections and used an=20
> approximate 3 by 3 foot section of heavy plywood and would put one =
> edge in=20
> the groove at the edge of the floor and the other over the stringer =
> using a=20
> block of wood to raise the edge of the plywood piece off the stringer =
> the=20
> appropriate height for the new floor. I would pour the foam mixture and =
> then put=20
> a thick piece of polyethelyne between foam and plywood piece and I would =
> stand=20
> on the plywood to keep the foam from overexpanding. You are controlling =
> the=20
> height of the foam with your weight and the flat surface of plywood. The =
> plastic=20
> keeps the foam from sticking to the plywood. First pour the deep parts =
> of the=20
> hull to a level say 6 inches below the floor. The foam loses its =
> expansibility=20
> when used in smaller amounts. The foam would shortly rise to the proper =
> height=20
> and you pull the plastic sheet and plywood off and go down the line =
> using the=20
> edges as shoulders for the next batch. You can use an electric sander to =
> level=20
> the surface if necessary. I poured a small layer of fiberglass resin =
> over=20
> the foam before putting on the plywood floor. I am going to make a =
> movie or=20
> pamphlet next time I do a floor. I saw several older trihulls on the =
> water=20
> today. No Johnson/Evirudes though. I have yet to see one of our species. =
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