[omc-boats] Re: omc-boats-digest V1 #525 from Thomas Klauber on 2006-07-04 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: Thomas Klauber <tklauber@...>
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 14:03:27 -0400

That is great and is the way they did it at the factory. They filled through
2 holes in the deck at the sides I think. I typically take the long wrong
route but eventually end up at the right spot! These foams have different
rates or pressures of expansion and caution should be used when putting a
lot of the mixture in at once. I wonder if it could split a hull or deck? It
also gets pretty hot from the chemical reaction. One question also - did the
foam arch the floor after it set? I am curious to know how much pressure
occurred as your way may be the way I go next time. I have one more Rogue
hull to foam and am not in a hurry to do it. TK
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> omc-boats-digest Tuesday, July 4 2006 Volume 01 : Number
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> Re: [omc-boats] How to check stringers/foam?
> [omc-boats] Looking for a ski tow bar
> Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
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> [omc-boats] 1970 Seasport
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> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 13:23:05 -0700
> From: jdhanson <jdhanson@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] How to check stringers/foam?
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> Hey Tom, Check out this foam product from versi-foam. Here is the
> link.=20=
>
> www.rhhfoamsystems.com By using there gun mixing system I was=20
> able to re-foam my boat in about 15 minutes! Instead of mixing and=20
> pouring the foam before putting the deck back together. I re-built the=20=
>
> deck first. Glass in the edges and seems only at this point. Then=20
> drilled holes about every foot. The holes worked great. They acted as=20
> fill points and vent holes to let the air and the extra over foam out.=20=
>
> I did cut about a 10 inch hole out in the front of the new deck. That=20
> was so I could look in and check the re-foaming progress. However, it=20
> went so well I did not have to check the new foam threw the hole. I=20
> could see the progress by the foam shooting out of the little holes! I=20=
>
> started from the back of the deck and worked my way to the front. I=20
> scraped the extra foam off the top of the deck then glassed over the=20
> entire new deck and holes. I have pictures of the re-build if you need=20=
>
> reference. -----Good luck Tom --Dave from San Diego
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Tom Paquette wrote:
>
>>
>> David,
>> =A0
>> I have one question.
>> =A0
>> I have removed the foam and hull is now empty and dry.=A0 I kept a
>> few=20=
>
>> edge spots for height determination.=A0 I plan to pour a little new =
> foam=20
>> beside these spots level it with them and pull up the last few pieces=20=
>
>> of old foam.
>> =A0
>> Once I glass the new floor to hull following the sealing methods you=20=
>
>> prescribe=85 =A0HOW do I know how much foam to pour into the chamber?? =
> =A0I=20
>> know I have to have a couple of pouring/release holes.=A0 =A0=A0How =
> many=20
>> holes do I need??=A0=A0 =A0Is it possible to over foam and crack or =
> deform=20
>> the hull??=A0 Or am I being over concerned=85.
>> =A0
>> =A0
>> Anyone who has done this part your advise would be highly appreciated.
>> =A0
>> Tom
>> Charlotte, NC
>>
>> From: owner-omc-boats@...=20
>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of David A.
>> Avedesian,=20=
>
>> PE, RPA
>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 10:14 PM
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] How to check stringers/foam?
>> =A0
>> Zach in Seattle:
>> =A0
>> If you have water in the foam, the floorboard is bad.=A0 OMC did not=20=
>
>> protect the wood floor from the bottom.=A0 The wood is open or raw.
>> =A0
>> My suggestion for the easiest and best method is as follows:
>> =A0
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Make a mark a straight cut line two inches =
> from the side of=20
>> the boat.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Then draw a cut line about two inches in =
> front of the bilge=20
>> well and
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 A cut line between the front and back seats.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Using a hand skill/7" circular set the saw =
> blade for a 1/2"=20
>> cut and saw cut the floorboard.=A0
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Remove the floorboard and send it to =
> 'heaven'.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Using a claw hammer=92s claw, remove the foam =
> and send it to=20
>> =91heaven=92.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 If you have any mildew/mold, wash the inside =
> of the hull with=20
>> bleach and water.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Then rinse and dry the inside.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Note:=A0 When I removed the foam, I decided =
> to make a custom=20
>> fit stainless steel gas tan to fit down in between the stringers.=A0
>> I=20=
>
>> made the tank 8 feet long x 11 inches wide with a varying depth of 7=20=
>
>> inches in the front to 4 inches in the back.=A0 The new gas tank held =
> 27=20
>> =BD gallons of fuel and place the weight as low in the center of =
> gravity=20
>> as possible.=A0 It has worked great and freed up valuable space in
>> the=20=
>
>> back of the boat.=A0 The trim on the boat greatly improved.=A0 The =
> down=20
>> side of this option was the tank can be very expensive.=A0 For me the=20=
>
>> benefits out weight the cost.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 By leaving the two inch edge on the side of =
> the boat, it=20
>> becomes easy to rematch the floorboard height within the boat.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Use the finest grade marine grade plywood (5 =
> ply) you can buy.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Cut the pieces to fit the void created by =
> removing the old=20
>> floor.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =91Paint=92 all six sides of the new =
> floorboards with epoxy.=A0=20
>> This will seal the floor from moisture in the future.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Re-foam using the highest density closed cell =
> foam system=20
>> under the floor.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 The floorboard does not touch the boat =
> stringers.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 The floorboard is supported by the foam.=A0 =
> The foam becomes=20
>> part of the structural support of the boat.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 The floorboard =91floats=92 above the =
> stringers.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 The floorboard is =91hard=92 at the edges to =
> the boat.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Use one layer of tri-axial fiberglass cloth =
> and epoxy the new=20
>> floor board in place. =A0
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Sand and paint the floor a dark gray interior =
> paint.
>> =B7=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =91Float=92 a carpet over the new floorboard.
>> =A0
>> When you take hundreds of pounds of water out of the basement of the=20=
>
>> boat and you hit the gas, the boat just want to jump out the
>> water.=A0=20=
>
>> She can not be on plan with in 12 feet.=A0 Now that is a boat.
>> =A0
>> If you would like to view the finished product, I sent my Sweet 16 to=20=
>
>> my son in Seattle, WA.=A0 In fact, he is almost out on it every week =
> on=20
>> Lake Union and Lake Washington.=A0 The boat is all white with a black=20=
>
>> rubrail with a 115 hp Yamaha.=A0 If you see the boat, my son=92s name =
> is=20
>> Greg.
>> =A0
>> Good Luck,
>> =A0
>> David Avedesian
>> Silver Spring, MD
>> =A0
>> =A0
>> =A0
>> =A0
>> =A0
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-omc-boats@...=20
>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of Zach Stanley
>> Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 11:57 AM
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] How to check stringers/foam?
>> =A0
>> This is a topic that has had me waking up at night screaming!=A0 I =
> know=20
>> that our boat is waterlogged. It has sat low as long as we've had
>> it -=20=
>
>> about three years - but also lists to the starboard side.=A0 Also,
>> the=20=
>
>> boat has been in the family since new and everyone has commented how=20=
>
>> "the boat just kept getting slower and slower" and "harder to pull a=20=
>
>> skier out", etc.=A0 Makes sense now that the boat is dragging some =
> extra=20
>> weight around.=A0
>> =A0
>> My question is... will replacing the foam using conventional methods=20=
>
>> now give the boat structure as the original injected foam did.=A0 I=20
>> would love to hear comments about regained performance=A0 - or =
> hull-flex=20
>> post foam repair.=A0 Pictures of the repair process would be
>> great.=A0=20=
>
>> Perhaps a section on the ultimate site should be devoted to this=20
>> subject with tips and photos since it is such a common problem.=A0=20
>> Someone had mentioned cutting large holes in the floor at intervals
>> to=20=
>
>> scoop out the foam and re-fill the cavity while leaving the floor=20
>> basically intact.=A0 I think I will try this if the floor itself can =
> be=20
>> saved.=A0 If that person=A0 has any pictures or further tips I would =
> love=20
>> more info.=A0 I feel very fortunate to be involved with such an=20
>> informative group - thanks guys!
>> Zach
>> 1970 Seasport 155
>> Seattle, WA
>> =A0
>> =A0
>> =A0
>> =A0
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Andy Perakes" <aperakes@...>
>> > To: omc-boats@...
>> > Subject: Re: [omc-boats] How to check stringers/foam?
>> > Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:49:12 -0400
>> >
>> >
>> > I haven't tried this, but another thought that would be a lot less
>> > destructive (if it works):=A0 Remove one of the bolts holding the=20
>> seats down
>> > and try sticking a pipe cleaner (the fuzzy wires used in arts &=20
>> crafts) or
>> > some other object that might show moisture into the foam.=A0 I'd=20
>> recommend
>> > trying one of the front bolts as both my rears were rusted in place=20=
>
>> and
>> > ripped the lock nut out of the plywood when I repaired my seats 2=20
>> years ago
>> > (both fronts came out easy).=A0 As I said, I haven't tried it yet, =
> but=20
>> its
>> > quick and easy enough to be worth a try before cutting holes in
>> > your=20=
>
>> floor
>> > (though that's probably the only way to be 100% sure....but then
>> > how=20=
>
>> many
>> > holes do you cut and where?)=A0 Good luck!
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "David A. Avedesian, PE, RPA" <david.avedesian@...>
>> > To: <omc-boats@...>
>> > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:56 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [omc-boats] How to check stringers/foam?
>> >
>> >
>> > > Kenneth:
>> > >
>> > > I own a 1965 Sweet 16 outboard model.
>> > >
>> > > Generally there is never a question regarding whether you have=20
>> water or
>> > not.
>> > > If you have water under the floor boards, the boat is very heavy=20=
>
>> and sits
>> > > very low in the water in the stern.
>> > >
>> > > I believe the easiest and effective way to check is to use a=20
>> hole-saw
>> > > perhaps 3" to 5" in diameter and drill through the floor in the=20
>> center in
>> > > front of the rear combing.
>> > >
>> > > The floor board is about 1/2" thick and there is nothing under
>> > > the=20=
>
>> center
>> > > line of the boat from a structural point of view.
>> > >
>> > > As soon as you remove the round plug, you will know by the
>> > > odor.=A0=20=
>
>> The
>> > second
>> > > way to determine is to push your finger into the foam.=A0 If it=20
>> squeezes
>> > > water, than you have a problem.
>> > >
>> > > I have found that when it comes to water under the floor boards,=20=
>
>> you will
>> > > never be sort-a-pregnant. It will either be zero or flooding.
>> > >
>> > > If you are dry, then mix up a small amount of epoxy (West System=20=
>
>> is what I
>> > > have used) and a layer of tri-axial cloth.=A0 Tri-axial is strong =
> in=20
>> three
>> > > directions and you can use one layer.
>> > >
>> > > This may be more information than you wanted but I have asked this
>> > question
>> > > a couple of times.=A0 If you would like more, feel free to ask.
>> > >
>> > > David Avedesian
>> > > Silver Spring, MD
>> > > Near Your Nation's Capital
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: owner-omc-boats@...=20
>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]
>> > On
>> > > Behalf Of Kenneth Fingerlos
>> > > Sent: Thursday, June 29, 2006 4:21 PM
>> > > To: omc-boats@...
>> > > Subject: [omc-boats] How to check stringers/foam?
>> > >
>> > > I've seen a lot of traffic on this list about the state of the=20
>> foam and
>> > > stringers underneath the floor.
>> > >
>> > > Does anybody have any sage advice as to how one would go about=20
>> checking
>> > the
>> > > status of such things?=A0 In particular, can it be done without=20
>> cutting
>> > holes?
>> > > and if one has to cut a hole, where should such be cut to
>> > > maximize=20=
>
>> the
>> > > benefits and minimize the problems?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > >
>> > > Kenenth
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > -----
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> Hey Tom, Check out this foam product from versi-foam. Here is the
> link. www.rhhfoamsystems.com By using there gun mixing system I
> was able to re-foam my boat in about 15 minutes! Instead of mixing and
> pouring the foam before putting the deck back together. I re-built the
> deck first. Glass in the edges and seems only at this point. Then
> drilled holes about every foot. The holes worked great. They acted as
> fill points and vent holes to let the air and the extra over foam out.
> I did cut about a 10 inch hole out in the front of the new deck. That
> was so I could look in and check the re-foaming progress. However, it
> went so well I did not have to check the new foam threw the hole. I
> could see the progress by the foam shooting out of the little holes! I
> started from the back of the deck and worked my way to the front. I
> scraped the extra foam off the top of the deck then glassed over the
> entire new deck and holes. I have pictures of the re-build if you need
> reference. -----Good luck Tom --Dave from San Diego
>
>
>
> On Jul 1, 2006, at 7:27 AM, Tom Paquette wrote:
>
>
> <excerpt> =20
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
> - -bigger>David,</x-tad-bigger></color></fontfamily>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
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> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
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> have one question.</x-tad-bigger></color></fontfamily>
>
> =
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> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
> - -bigger>I
> have removed the foam and hull is now empty and dry.=A0 I kept a few
> edge spots for height determination.=A0 I plan to pour a little new foam
> beside these spots level it with them and pull up the last few pieces
> of old foam.</x-tad-bigger></color></fontfamily>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
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>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
> - -bigger>Once
> I glass the new floor to hull following the sealing methods you
> prescribe=85 =A0HOW do I know how much foam to pour into the chamber?? =
> =A0I
> know I have to have a couple of pouring/release holes.=A0 =A0=A0How many
> holes do I need??=A0=A0 =A0Is it possible to over foam and crack or =
> deform
> the hull??=A0 Or am I being over =
> concerned=85.</x-tad-bigger></color></fontfamily>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
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>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
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>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
> - -bigger>Anyone
> who has done this part your advise would be highly =
> appreciated.</x-tad-bigger></color></fontfamily>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
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> =
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> <fontfamily><param>Arial</param><color><param>0000,0000,8080</param><x-tad=
> - -bigger>Charlotte,
> NC</x-tad-bigger></color></fontfamily>
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>
> =
> <bold><fontfamily><param>Tahoma</param><x-tad-bigger>From:</x-tad-bigger><=
> /fontfamily></bold><fontfamily><param>Tahoma</param><x-tad-bigger>
> owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]
> </x-tad-bigger><bold><x-tad-bigger>On Behalf Of
> </x-tad-bigger></bold><x-tad-bigger>David A. Avedesian, PE, =
> RPA</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily>
>
> =
> <bold><fontfamily><param>Tahoma</param><x-tad-bigger>Sent:</x-tad-bigger><=
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> Friday, June 30, 2006 10:14 PM</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily>
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>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Zach in
> Seattle:</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
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>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>If you have
> water in the foam, the floorboard is bad.=A0 OMC did not protect the
> wood floor from the bottom.=A0 The wood is open or =
> raw.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>My
> suggestion for the easiest and best method is as =
> follows:</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Make
> a mark a straight cut line two inches from the side of the =
> boat.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Then
> draw a cut line about two inches in front of the bilge well =
> and</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>A
> cut line between the front and back =
> seats.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Using
> a hand skill/7" circular set the saw blade for a 1/2" cut and saw cut
> the floorboard.=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Remove
> the floorboard and send it to =
> 'heaven'.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Using
> a claw hammer=92s claw, remove the foam and send it to =
> =91heaven=92.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>If
> you have any mildew/mold, wash the inside of the hull with bleach and
> water.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Then
> rinse and dry the inside.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Note:=A0
> When I removed the foam, I decided to make a custom fit stainless
> steel gas tan to fit down in between the stringers.=A0 I made the tank 8
> feet long x 11 inches wide with a varying depth of 7 inches in the
> front to 4 inches in the back.=A0 The new gas tank held 27 =BD gallons =
> of
> fuel and place the weight as low in the center of gravity as
> possible.=A0 It has worked great and freed up valuable space in the back
> of the boat.=A0 The trim on the boat greatly improved.=A0 The down side =
> of
> this option was the tank can be very expensive.=A0 For me the benefits
> out weight the cost.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>By
> leaving the two inch edge on the side of the boat, it becomes easy to
> rematch the floorboard height within the =
> boat.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Use
> the finest grade marine grade plywood (5 ply) you can =
> buy.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Cut
> the pieces to fit the void created by removing the old =
> floor.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>=91Paint=92
> all six sides of the new floorboards with epoxy.=A0 This will seal the
> floor from moisture in the future.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Re-foam
> using the highest density closed cell foam system under the =
> floor.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>The
> floorboard does not touch the boat =
> stringers.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>The
> floorboard is supported by the foam.=A0 The foam becomes part of the
> structural support of the boat.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>The
> floorboard =91floats=92 above the =
> stringers.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>The
> floorboard is =91hard=92 at the edges to the =
> boat.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Use
> one layer of tri-axial fiberglass cloth and epoxy the new floor board
> in place. =A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Sand
> and paint the floor a dark gray interior =
> paint.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> =
> <fontfamily><param>Times</param><x-tad-bigger>=B7</x-tad-bigger></fontfami=
> ly></excerpt><excerpt><smaller><x-tad-smaller>=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0
> =
> </x-tad-smaller></smaller></excerpt><excerpt><fixed><fontfamily><param>Cou=
> rier New</param><x-tad-bigger>=91Float=92
> a carpet over the new floorboard.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>When you
> take hundreds of pounds of water out of the basement of the boat and
> you hit the gas, the boat just want to jump out the water.=A0 She can
> not be on plan with in 12 feet.=A0 Now that is a =
> boat.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>If you
> would like to view the finished product, I sent my Sweet 16 to my son
> in Seattle, WA.=A0 In fact, he is almost out on it every week on Lake
> Union and Lake Washington.=A0 The boat is all white with a black rubrail
> with a 115 hp Yamaha.=A0 If you see the boat, my son=92s name is =
> Greg.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Good =
> Luck,</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>David
> Avedesian</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Silver
> Spring, MD</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>-----Original
> Message-----</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger> From:
> owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
> Behalf Of Zach Stanley</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger> Sent:
> Friday, June 30, 2006 11:57 AM</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger> To:
> omc-boats@...</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger> Subject:
> Re: [omc-boats] How to check =
> stringers/foam?</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>This is a
> topic that has had me waking up at night screaming!=A0 I know that our
> boat is waterlogged. It has sat low as long as we've had it - about
> three years - but also lists to the starboard side.=A0 Also, the boat
> has been in the family since new and everyone has commented how "the
> boat just kept getting slower and slower" and "harder to pull a skier
> out", etc.=A0 Makes sense now that the boat is dragging some extra
> weight around.=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>My question
> is... will replacing the foam using conventional methods now give the
> boat structure as the original injected foam did.=A0 I would love to
> hear comments about regained performance=A0 - or hull-flex post foam
> repair.=A0 Pictures of the repair process would be great.=A0 Perhaps a
> section on the ultimate site should be devoted to this subject with
> tips and photos since it is such a common problem.=A0 Someone had
> mentioned cutting large holes in the floor at intervals to scoop out
> the foam and re-fill the cavity while leaving the floor basically
> intact.=A0 I think I will try this if the floor itself can be saved.=A0 =
> If
> that person=A0 has any pictures or further tips I would love more
> info.=A0=
>
> I feel very fortunate to be involved with such an informative group -
> thanks guys!</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>Zach</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>1970
> Seasport 155</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>Seattle, =
> WA</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>=A0</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> -----
> Original Message -----</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> From:
> "Andy Perakes" =
> <<aperakes@...></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> To:
> omc-boats@...</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> Subject:
> Re: [omc-boats] How to check =
> stringers/foam?</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> Date:
> Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:49:12 -0400</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> I haven't
> tried this, but another thought that would be a lot =
> less</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>>
> destructive (if it works):=A0 Remove one of the bolts holding the seats
> down</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> and try
> sticking a pipe cleaner (the fuzzy wires used in arts & crafts) =
> or</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> some
> other object that might show moisture into the foam.=A0 I'd =
> recommend</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> trying
> one of the front bolts as both my rears were rusted in place =
> and</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> ripped
> the lock nut out of the plywood when I repaired my seats 2 years =
> ago</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> (both
> fronts came out easy).=A0 As I said, I haven't tried it yet, but =
> its</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> quick and
> easy enough to be worth a try before cutting holes in your =
> floor</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> (though
> that's probably the only way to be 100% sure....but then how =
> many</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> holes do
> you cut and where?)=A0 Good luck!</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> -----
> Original Message -----</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> From:
> "David A. Avedesian, PE, RPA" =
> <<david.avedesian@...></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> To:
> <<omc-boats@...></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> Sent:
> Thursday, June 29, 2006 6:56 PM</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> Subject:
> RE: [omc-boats] How to check =
> stringers/foam?</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier =
> New</param><x-tad-bigger>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > =
> Kenneth:</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > I own a
> 1965 Sweet 16 outboard model.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> >
> Generally there is never a question regarding whether you have water =
> or</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
> not.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > If you
> have water under the floor boards, the boat is very heavy and =
> sits</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > very
> low in the water in the stern.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > I
> believe the easiest and effective way to check is to use a =
> hole-saw</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > perhaps
> 3" to 5" in diameter and drill through the floor in the center =
> in</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > front
> of the rear combing.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > The
> floor board is about 1/2" thick and there is nothing under the =
> center</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > line of
> the boat from a structural point of =
> view.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > As soon
> as you remove the round plug, you will know by the odor.=A0 =
> The</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
> second</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > way to
> determine is to push your finger into the foam.=A0 If it =
> squeezes</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > water,
> than you have a problem.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > I have
> found that when it comes to water under the floor boards, you =
> will</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > never
> be sort-a-pregnant. It will either be zero or =
> flooding.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > If you
> are dry, then mix up a small amount of epoxy (West System is what =
> I</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > have
> used) and a layer of tri-axial cloth.=A0 Tri-axial is strong in =
> three</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> >
> directions and you can use one =
> layer.</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
>></x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> > This
> may be more information than you wanted but I have asked =
> this</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
> <fixed><fontfamily><param>Courier New</param><x-tad-bigger>> =
> question</x-tad-bigger></fontfamily></fixed>
>
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> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 14:01:29 -0700
> From: "t-beach" <t-beach@...>
> Subject: [omc-boats] Looking for a ski tow bar
>
> This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
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> If you haven't take a look at the boat for sale on the URL below, you =
> should. It is a beauty. I thought I was looking at a copy of my own =
> except I have a 125 outboard. Looking at the pictures reminded me of a =
> search for a ski tow bar I started a couple of years ago. It was =
> original equipment on the 1964 sportsman 16 with an outboard. Somehow =
> over the years I lost 1/2 of it. It is a U-shaped bar that stands over =
> the outboard when in use and lies flat when not. It is bolted to the =
> stern. I have a attached a picture if it goes through. Not sure if =
> this group allows for attachment. To my point I am still looking if =
> anyone has one that they do not want or knowledge of where one may be =
> available I would appreciate the help
>
> Thanks
> Tom
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: MOTiger@...=20
> To: omc-boats@...=20
> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 1:24 PM
> Subject: [omc-boats] Evinrude Sportman with 100hp for sale
>
>
> http://sfbay.craigslist.org/eby/boa/176864929.html
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> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000080 size=3D3>If you =
> haven't take a look=20
> at the boat for sale on the URL below, you should.  It is a =
> beauty.  I=20
> thought I was looking at a copy of my own except I have a 125 =
> outboard. =20
> Looking at the pictures reminded me of a search for a ski tow bar I =
> started a=20
> couple of years ago.  It was original equipment on the 1964 =
> sportsman 16=20
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> It is a=20
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> when=20
> not.  It is bolted to the stern.  I have a attached a =
> picture if=20
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> knowledge of=20
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> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000080=20
> size=3D3>Thanks</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3DGeorgia color=3D#000080 =
> size=3D3>Tom</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
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> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, July 02, 2006 =
> 1:24 PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [omc-boats] Evinrude =
> Sportman=20
> with 100hp for sale</DIV>
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> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2006 17:03:35 -0400
> From: "David T. Detrick" <ddetrick@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
>
> What V6 engine number do you have? HP? CID? I have a 1964 150hp 225CID
> Model HU-12B Serial W16800, and am always looking for spare useable parts,
> engine and plastic light lenses.
> Dave Detrick
> Norwood, nc
>
>
>
> At 11:06 AM 6/28/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>> Do to all the requests for parts from this engine I'm thinking I might
>>part it out. Since I have no idea what individual parts are worth I'll
>>probably put them on eBay with a low starting bid.
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:58:35 -0500
> From: "Glenn Halweg" <glennhalweg@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
>
> The engine is a Buick V6 225 CI 155 HP. To the best of my knowledge this
> is
> the only Buick V6 used by OMC boats.
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David T. Detrick" <ddetrick@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 4:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
>
>
>> What V6 engine number do you have? HP? CID? I have a 1964 150hp 225CID
>> Model HU-12B Serial W16800, and am always looking for spare useable
>> parts,
>> engine and plastic light lenses.
>> Dave Detrick
>> Norwood, nc
>>
>>
>>
>> At 11:06 AM 6/28/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>> Do to all the requests for parts from this engine I'm thinking I might
>>>part it out. Since I have no idea what individual parts are worth I'll
>>>probably put them on eBay with a low starting bid.
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 17:37:07 -0700
> From: "Scott E. Veazie" <scottveazie@...>
> Subject: [omc-boats] 1970 Seasport
>
> All-
>
> I'm almost 100% sure I'm selling my 1970 Seasport. There are pics posted
> on
> the site under "Scott Veazie's 1970 Seasport 155". She runs great, I have
> alot of extra stern drive parts, extra props, just took her out over the
> weekend for some tubing, did great. The trailer has new LED taillights in
> the original location, and the trailer as been fitted with standard sized
> tires. Any takers?
>
> ~Scott
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> Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 20:42:32 -0400
> From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
> Subject: [omc-boats] Re: omc-boats-digest V1 #524
>
> I used a mix and pour polyurethane foam that is closed cell and compatible
> with epoxy resins that I bought from an online source called Fiber Glast.
> It
> is labled 24/25 and I used 2 gallons of each for a total of 4 gallons that
> will cost a couple hundred bucks. Start with a small amount and order more
> if needed. It is dead on like the original. It works fast and is fun to
> play
> with. Go to Home Depot and get some of those graduated polyethylene cups
> and
> buckets to measure and mix the stuff. They are reusable if you want to
> take
> the trouble. You can do a lot with any that you have left over. The
> company
> gives good service and the stuff is shipped to your doorstep in several
> days
> and is fresh material. I bought all the stuff to do the floor including
> resins, glass cloth and tools to spread the resins. What fun!!! Lots of
> time
> and money but go price a new boat and its taxes for a little incentive!
> Tom
> K.
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> From: "omc-boats-digest" <owner-omc-boats-digest@...>
> To: <omc-boats-digest@...>
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 12:00 PM
> Subject: omc-boats-digest V1 #524
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>
>>
>> omc-boats-digest Monday, July 3 2006 Volume 01 : Number
>> 524
>>
>>
>>
>> RE: [omc-boats] what kind of foam do you use ?
>> [omc-boats] floor
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 21:10:25 -0400
>> From: "Tom Paquette" <tpaquette@...>
>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] what kind of foam do you use ?
>>
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>> Here a link for foam.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.shopmaninc.com/foam.html
>>
>>
>>
>> They make West System products as well. Has to be a poly type foam or
>> the
>> epoxy resin will eat it.
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure of the weight to use myself.
>>
>>
>>
>> _____
>>
>> From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]
>> On
>> Behalf Of FixAcft@...
>> Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 3:49 PM
>> To: omc-boats-digest@...
>> Subject: [omc-boats] what kind of foam do you use ?
>>
>>
>>
>> What kind of foam do you use to fill back in? Where do you get it? How
>> much?
>>
>>
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>> <div class=3DSection1>
>>
>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>> style=3D'font-size:
>> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Here a link for =
>> foam.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>> style=3D'font-size:
>> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>> style=3D'font-size:
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>> href=3D"http://www.shopmaninc.com/foam.html">http://www.shopmaninc.com/fo=
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>>
>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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>>
>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>> style=3D'font-size:
>> 10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>They make West System products as
>> well.  Has to be a poly type foam or the epoxy resin will eat =
>> it.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>>
>> <p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
>> style=3D'font-size:
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>> =
>> use
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>>
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>> style=3D'font-size:
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>> 2006 3:49
>> PM<br>
>> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
>> omc-boats-digest@...<br>
>> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [omc-boats] what
>> =
>> kind of
>> foam do you use ?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
>>
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>> style=3D'font-size:
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>> fill back
>> in? Where do you get it? How much?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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>> Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2006 21:55:50 -0400
>> From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
>> Subject: [omc-boats] floor
>>
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>> I took the Rogue to the river today and we all had a wonderful time. I =
>> am 54 and I do not get up on the skis like I used to but got up on 2 =
>> skis. I am out of shape which is what happens when you have a desk job =
>> and do not work out. About the flooring I now remember some techniques I
>> =
>> used last time. It is absolute that the new floor is the same height as =
>> original if you have sides or other stuff to fit back in place after the
>> =
>> new floor. I cut the old floor out leaving several inches of old glass =
>> laminate at the edges to give you the proper height of the new floor. =
>> The plywood does not directly bolt to the stringers - you have a small =
>> amount of foam sandwiched between stringer and plywood. I did the foam =
>> in small sections and used an approximate 3 by 3 foot section of heavy =
>> plywood and would put one edge in the groove at the edge of the floor =
>> and the other over the stringer using a block of wood to raise the edge =
>> of the plywood piece off the stringer the appropriate height for the new
>> =
>> floor. I would pour the foam mixture and then put a thick piece of =
>> polyethelyne between foam and plywood piece and I would stand on the =
>> plywood to keep the foam from overexpanding. You are controlling the =
>> height of the foam with your weight and the flat surface of plywood. The
>> =
>> plastic keeps the foam from sticking to the plywood. First pour the deep
>> =
>> parts of the hull to a level say 6 inches below the floor. The foam =
>> loses its expansibility when used in smaller amounts. The foam would =
>> shortly rise to the proper height and you pull the plastic sheet and =
>> plywood off and go down the line using the edges as shoulders for the =
>> next batch. You can use an electric sander to level the surface if =
>> necessary. I poured a small layer of fiberglass resin over the foam =
>> before putting on the plywood floor. I am going to make a movie or =
>> pamphlet next time I do a floor. I saw several older trihulls on the =
>> water today. No Johnson/Evirudes though. I have yet to see one of our =
>> species. Hope all have a safe happy 4th of July. TK
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I took the Rogue to the river today and
>> =
>> we all had=20
>> a wonderful time. I am 54 and I do not get up on the skis like I used to
>> =
>> but got=20
>> up on 2 skis. I am out of shape which is what happens when you have a =
>> desk job=20
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>> =
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>> original if=20
>> you have sides or other stuff to fit back in place after the new =
>> floor. I=20
>> cut the old floor out leaving several inches of old glass laminate at =
>> the edges=20
>> to give you the proper height of the new floor. The plywood does not =
>> directly=20
>> bolt to the stringers - you have a small amount of foam sandwiched =
>> between=20
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>> an=20
>> approximate 3 by 3 foot section of heavy plywood and would put one =
>> edge in=20
>> the groove at the edge of the floor and the other over the stringer =
>> using a=20
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>> the=20
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>> then put=20
>> a thick piece of polyethelyne between foam and plywood piece and I would
>> =
>> stand=20
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>> the=20
>> height of the foam with your weight and the flat surface of plywood. The
>> =
>> plastic=20
>> keeps the foam from sticking to the plywood. First pour the deep parts =
>> of the=20
>> hull to a level say 6 inches below the floor. The foam loses its =
>> expansibility=20
>> when used in smaller amounts. The foam would shortly rise to the proper =
>> height=20
>> and you pull the plastic sheet and plywood off and go down the line =
>> using the=20
>> edges as shoulders for the next batch. You can use an electric sander to
>> =
>> level=20
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>> over=20
>> the foam before putting on the plywood floor. I am going to make a =
>> movie or=20
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>> =
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> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 08:15:21 -0600
> From: <lib1@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
>
> I have a web page that breaks out the various OMC sterndrive model
> numbers,
> see
> http://hhscott.com/evinrude/stringer_models_72.htm
>
> The first two letters indicate the engine type, while the numbers indicate
> the year, with 11 being 1963, 12=1964, 13=1965, etc.
>
> The Buick/Jeep V6 was slightly modified between 1966-1967. The 150 hp
> models
> use a single barrel manifold and carb, while the 155 hp models (starting
> in
> 1967 used a two-barrel carb and manifold. The choke mechanism was also
> different. There were some minor internal differences but those shouldn't
> affect interchange of major parts.
>
> Lee Shuster
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David T. Detrick" <ddetrick@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 3:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
>
>
>> What V6 engine number do you have? HP? CID? I have a 1964 150hp 225CID
>> Model HU-12B Serial W16800, and am always looking for spare useable
>> parts,
>> engine and plastic light lenses.
>> Dave Detrick
>> Norwood, nc
>>
>>
>>
>> At 11:06 AM 6/28/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>> Do to all the requests for parts from this engine I'm thinking I might
>>>part it out. Since I have no idea what individual parts are worth I'll
>>>probably put them on eBay with a low starting bid.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 10:21:57 EDT
> From: LeeHazen@...
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Re: In-hull foam problems- can they re-occur ?
>
> In a message dated 7/3/06 7:43:45 PM Central Daylight Time,
> tklauber@... writes:
>
> << I used a mix and pour polyurethane foam that is closed cell and
> compatible
> with epoxy resins that I bought from an online source called Fiber Glast.
> It
> is labled 24/25 and I used 2 gallons of each for a total of 4 gallons that
> will cost a couple hundred bucks. Start with a small amount and order more
> if needed. It is dead on like the original >>
>
> If it is "dead on" like the original, why would you want to put it back in
> your
> boat ? Unless I could find a foam that wouldn't absorb water, I wouldn't
> put
> it
> in my boat.
>
> I've had 4 Seasport 155s over the years and every one of them got enough
> water
> in them at one time or another to cover the floor with water. I guess
> that's
> why
> I never noticed the lesser performance of the boats - they all seemed
> equal.
>
> I'll bet that all 4 had soaked foam in their hulls.
>
> I don't like it that the foam is part of the structural strength of the
> boat.
>
> I thought that the boats had foam around the rim of the hull to keep it
> from
> flipping over or sinking in the event of a capsize.
>
> Doesn't water from the front seating area drain into the hull ?
>
> I sold my Johnson Surfer (1970) to a nice fellow in Cincinatti on ebay for
> $737.
> He drove down on Sunday and took it back home. He had no problems with
> the return trip. Tires held up fine, trailer lights all worked fine. He
> has
> an older
> "Surfer" and I think he's gonna make one good boat out of the two. I'll
> tell
> him
> about the group so he can join you on the list. His first name is Sean.
>
> I guess I'll be dropping out now that I no longer own an OMC boat. Please
> remove my pictures and my for sale notice from the site. I've really
> enjoyed
> being a member and have learned a lot about the Johnson and other OMC
> boats. If I ever obtain another Seasport 155, I'll be back.
>
> Lee Hazen - Old Hickory Lake, Hendersonville, TN
> Studio by the Pond
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> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 08:27:17 -0600
> From: <lib1@...>
> Subject: [omc-boats] Good outing last Sunday
>
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> It's great to see a lot of activity on this list! I managed to get out =
> this past weekend for several hours with my wife, son and his =
> girlfriend. (June was pretty much a lost cause, as I was traveling =
> nearly every weekend.)
>
> I'm pleased to report all electrical systems that I re-did last winter =
> worked great. I especially like the new CruzPro gas vapor detector and =
> the CruzPro paddle-wheel-driven speedometer. With the new speedo I can =
> know accurately log distance and very low speeds accurately. The two-way =
> marine VHF radio also gives more peace of mind. I also added sideboards =
> on the trailer which make loading on the trailer (especially when windy) =
> much easier.
>
> Since my beloved turbo minivan ( http://hhscott.com/93tmv ) was totaled =
> while parked in front of our house, we are renting a Dodge Ram 4x4 1500 =
> Hemi Quad cab for towing duties. It's awesome on the ramp or in the =
> mountains. Anyone know of a clean towing truck for sale?
>
> I'll send Phil a couple of new pics.
>
> Lee Shuster
> Salt Lake City
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> with my=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'm pleased to report all electrical =
> systems that I=20
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> vapor=20
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> new speedo I can know accurately log distance and very low speeds=20
> accurately. The two-way marine VHF radio also gives more peace of mind. =
> I also=20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Since my beloved turbo minivan ( <A=20
> href=3D"http://hhscott.com/93tmv">http://hhscott.com/93tmv</A> )&nbs=
> p; was=20
> totaled while parked in front of our house, we are renting a Dodge Ram =
> 4x4 1500=20
> Hemi Quad cab for towing duties. It's awesome on the ramp or in the =
> mountains.=20
>  Anyone know of a clean towing truck for sale?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I'll send Phil a couple of new =
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> Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2006 10:34:19 -0500
> From: "Glenn Halweg" <glennhalweg@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
>
> The engine I have is a 2 barrel 155 HP.
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: <lib1@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 9:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
>
>
>>I have a web page that breaks out the various OMC sterndrive model
>>numbers,
>>see
>> http://hhscott.com/evinrude/stringer_models_72.htm
>>
>> The first two letters indicate the engine type, while the numbers
>> indicate
>> the year, with 11 being 1963, 12=1964, 13=1965, etc.
>>
>> The Buick/Jeep V6 was slightly modified between 1966-1967. The 150 hp
>> models use a single barrel manifold and carb, while the 155 hp models
>> (starting in 1967 used a two-barrel carb and manifold. The choke
>> mechanism
>> was also different. There were some minor internal differences but those
>> shouldn't affect interchange of major parts.
>>
>> Lee Shuster
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David T. Detrick" <ddetrick@...>
>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>> Sent: Monday, July 03, 2006 3:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Buick V6 engine
>>
>>
>>> What V6 engine number do you have? HP? CID? I have a 1964 150hp 225CID
>>> Model HU-12B Serial W16800, and am always looking for spare useable
>>> parts,
>>> engine and plastic light lenses.
>>> Dave Detrick
>>> Norwood, nc
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> At 11:06 AM 6/28/2006 -0500, you wrote:
>>>> Do to all the requests for parts from this engine I'm thinking I
>>>> might
>>>>part it out. Since I have no idea what individual parts are worth I'll
>>>>probably put them on eBay with a low starting bid.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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