RE: [omc-boats] Demo question?

I'll have to look into the OMC plant history in Peterborough a bit more. I
don't live too far from there (relatively speaking) - maybe I'll get lucky
and find some surplus in an old barn someday :) This has been a very helpful
thread for me - I'll have to spend some time identifying differences between
the Peterborough built boats and the ones from Waukeegan.
Cheers,
Ian

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Sent: August 12, 2006 10:08 AM
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Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Demo question?

Yup, the Peterborugh-built boats even used different lighting hardware if
you look closely.
They even got their own specific illustrated parts manuals.

I'm not sure about this next point, but I suspect only outboard models were
built in Canada.
It appears that after about 1966-67 Canadian boat production ceased?

Lee Shuster

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From: "jim orfino" <jorfino@...>
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Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Demo question?

> That could explain why every Sweet 16 I've ever seen had the same style
> fold down back to back seats instead of the removable bucket seats shown
> in the sales brochures. I guess I was wrong regarding the windshield. I
> thought I read somewhere it had the power lift.
>
> jim
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> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 4:31 PM
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>
>> Dave is correct -- only the Deluxe 17 OMC (and later Johnson 17
>> versions)featured the motor-driven ventilation windshield. Other forms of

>> ventilators would re-emerge, as on the Rogue and Play,ate/Caprice, but
>> none were as nifty as the power-motivated windshield on the Deluxe 17.
>>
>> The USA (Waukeegan, IL) built Sweet 16 and Reveler all used a heavy
>> aluminum framed safety glass windshield.
>>
>> The Canada (Peterborouh, ONT) built boats used locally sourced Plexiglass

>> windshields, along with different seats and misc cleat hardware. I'm
>> pretty ceratin this had to do with import/duty/local content issues.
>>
>> Lee Shuster
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "David" <odin@...>
>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 2:59 PM
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Demo question?
>>
>>
>>> If you go to the Ultimate.com home page you will see both the sweet 16
>>> and the 17' Deluxe- both have the windshields you are talking about -
>>> but as far as I know only the Deluxe had the motor windshield lift but
>>> they both used the heavy frame. When I worked for engineering at OMC one

>>> of my test assignments was to try to find out why the windshields on the

>>> Delux would all of a sudden explode - never did find an absolute cause
>>> but did get two of them to blow - no problem as the safty glass burst
>>> into little harmless chunks - something to see though! Dave
>>>
>>> jim orfino wrote:
>>>
>>>> My dads Sweet 16 also had the plastic windshield. I think the metal
>>>> framed windshields were designed to lift open at the bottem using a
>>>> motor drive.
>>>>
>>>> jim
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Van Vliet"
>>>> <gvanvliet@...>
>>>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>>>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 10:07 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Demo question?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ian,
>>>>>
>>>>> The shape of the glass and plastic windshields are basically the same
>>>>> (compound curves), but the Evinrude glass ones have a much more robust
>>>>> metal frame (like that of a convertible car). I found my ID plate
>>>>> fastened
>>>>> to the floor near the stern. I have no idea if this was the original
>>>>> location. The plate was very scratched up so I think it was there for

>>>>> some
>>>>> time anyway.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW - I just noticed a spelling mistake in my original post: Slamon
>>>>> Arm
>>>>> should be Salmon Arm - so named after the Salmon River that enters
>>>>> this
>>>>> particular arm of Shuswap Lake . . . it's got nothing to do with
>>>>> unusual
>>>>> appendages of salmon. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Greg
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Ian Torrey [SMTP:itorrey@...]
>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 6:38 AM
>>>>> To: 'omc-boats@...'
>>>>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Demo question?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi Greg,
>>>>> My Sweet 16 has a plastic windshield as well. Do the glass and plastic

>>>>> ones
>>>>> look pretty much the same? I bought the boat several years ago here in
>>>>> Ottawa, Ontario. I've been unable to find a year or model plate on
>>>>> it - I
>>>>> suspect it has been removed, but if anyone can tell me specifically
>>>>> where
>>>>> to
>>>>> look I'll have another go at it.
>>>>> Ian
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: owner-omc-boats@...
>>>>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
>>>>> Behalf Of Greg Van Vliet
>>>>> Sent: August 10, 2006 6:58 PM
>>>>> To: 'omc-boats@...'
>>>>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Demo question?
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl,
>>>>>
>>>>> it sounds like your boat is a Johnson Seahorse Deluxe 16 (the sister
>>>>> to the
>>>>> Evinrude Sweet 16). That's the same as my boat, and I'm about to
>>>>> finally
>>>>> start the restoration on her. I'll try to take a look at my bow cleat
>>>>> strut and see what's involved in the removal. I don't think there's
>>>>> any
>>>>> problem with mine. I think it'll just unbolt normally.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't recall if you've posted "your story" about replacing the foam,
>>>>> floor and transom to the list. If you haven't done so, I'd like to
>>>>> hear
>>>>> what you did, what you used, and how well it all worked. I'll be
>>>>> doing the
>>>>> foam and floor and maybe the transom (it seems fairly rigid, but I
>>>>> think
>>>>> there's some rot in it).
>>>>>
>>>>> Also . . . I recently spent some time with my family near Slamon Arm
>>>>> on
>>>>> Shuswap Lake, BC (THE houseboating lake capital in Canada). I found
>>>>> an
>>>>> Evinrude Sweet 16 tied to a floating dock. It's got the Evinrude
>>>>> badging
>>>>> and a Starflite motor, but it has the plastic windshield like my
>>>>> Johnson.
>>>>> I wonder if all the Canadian model Sweet 16's had the plastic
>>>>> windshields?
>>>>> All the Canadian one's on the OMC site gallery appear to.
>>>>> Unfortunately,
>>>>> I couldn't get close enough to look for a model number. However, I
>>>>> may
>>>>> still be able to contact the owner with any luck. Phil has added the
>>>>> photos to the Sweet 16 gallery.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards to all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Greg Van Vliet
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Harris Family [SMTP:kjharris@...]
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 09, 2006 9:08 PM
>>>>> To: omc-boats@...
>>>>> Subject: [omc-boats] Demo question?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a 64 Johnson O/B Runabout that I have completely torn apart in
>>>>> my
>>>>> garage. I have replaced the foam, floor and transom. I now need to
>>>>> remove
>>>>> the strut that conects the bow lifting cleat to the bottom of the
>>>>> hull.
>>>>> Has anyone done this? The problem is, that presure has pushed the
>>>>> base of
>>>>> the strut almost all of the way through the bottom of the hull. I
>>>>> have
>>>>> ground out the protrution on outside of the hull, but I am afraid that

>>>>> I
>>>>> will blow all of the way through the hull if I keep going. An
>>>>> alternative
>>>>> that I thought of was to just saw off the base of the strut as low as
>>>>> I can
>>>>> and then build a new base for it and fiberglass it to the floor.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>
>>>>> Karl in Washington << File: ATT00000.html >>
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