Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)

UGH! I hate it when that happens! good luck! Dave

Glenn comcast wrote:

> I'll have to spend some time looking, my hard drive crashed and I lost
> my favorites list last month. Even though I back up to a second hard
> drive I lost my manufactures list and over 3000 email addresses.
>
> go2marine.com and iboats.com seem to come to mind.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David <mailto:odin@...>
> To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:16 AM
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>
> Hey Glenn!
> Wow, yeah, at $50 I would agree - where did you find that deal? Dave
>
> Glenn comcast wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> For what it costs I can't imagine tearing the drive down and not
>> changing all three items. I did one this summer total for parts
>> all in one kit was under $50.
>>
>> Glenn
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: David <mailto:odin@...>
>> To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:33 PM
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>>
>> Jeff,
>> I have never had to replace the housing - the cover plate, or
>> ware plate does get grooved up and some say the water can
>> pass back through he grooves - but I have had some super worn
>> ones and never had a problem - I have not done one in a
>> number of years now so I can't remember if it was on my OMC
>> or some junky mercruiser drives I had - but on one of them I
>> was able to just turn the plate over so the grooved part was
>> outside and a nice smooth surface against the impeller. Dave
>>
>> jdood wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Gregory!
>>> Often the ball gears are low enough to pick up water and
>>> kick it into the air through that gap - not a big deal -
>>> also, a few models had the spray hole on the inside by the
>>> ball gears and that could be where the water is coming from
>>> if the boat is not low in the water - but the usual steam
>>> hole is on the bottom of the starboard pinion cover.
>>> Replacing the impeller is not a difficult job - and I would
>>> say one rarely has to replace the housing - sometimes the
>>> cover plate gets badly worn and should be replaced, but even
>>> that is not very often - and you may find that the impeller
>>> is fine - not cracking or chewed up anywhere - in which case
>>> I would leave well enough alone - or put in a new one and
>>> keep the old as a spare. I am sure if by chance you do need
>>> new parts some one in the group will have the numbers for
>>> you – Dave
>>>
>>> On mine, the impellor was literally in pieces. All the
>>> flappers had broken and the broken pieces were spinning
>>> around in the housing with it. the “expert” I took it to
>>> said the slightest surface damage on the inside of the
>>> housing can cause the rubber to deteriorate fast on the new
>>> impellor….it seemed to make sense, but who knows…..i
>>> could’ve been scammed a bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gregory B. Fell wrote:
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>>>
>>> I haven’t had my 69 Sportsman 155 out this entire summer.
>>> Busy at work and a lake down 14 ft (Texas drought) to
>>> blame. Now with the cooler fall weather upon me, I’d like
>>> to do a few things in my driveway. This discussion
>>> regarding the tell-tale stream of water raises a question of
>>> my own.
>>>
>>> 1. Near the end of the season last year, I noticed,
>>> while at idle, water was spraying up from the stern drive
>>> onto the engine cover. I didn’t have time to do much more
>>> than lay over the back and try to see where it was coming
>>> from. It appeared to be coming from a location near the
>>> ball gears and spraying (not a stream) up through the gap.
>>> Any ideas?
>>>
>>> 2. I’d like to replace the impeller this winter. I
>>> believe the general consensus this summer has been to
>>> replace the housing as well. I’ve purchased the Selog
>>> manual and am ready to go. What I would appreciate (for my
>>> own peace of mind) is advice regarding the correct part
>>> numbers and where you would recommend I purchase them.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Gregory B. Fell
>>>
>>> The Fell Law Firm
>>>
>>> 3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700
>>>
>>> Dallas, Texas 75219
>>>
>>> 972-488-8177
>>>
>>> 214-219-4218 - fax
>>>
>>> gfell@... <mailto:gfell@...>
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> From: owner-omc-boats@...
>>> <mailto:owner-omc-boats@...>
>>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of jdood
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:37 PM
>>> To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
>>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>>>
>>> Jeff, my advise to you is to ask any mechanic you propose to
>>> use if there is a water stream out of the sterndrive - if
>>> they say no - run away from them as fast and as far as you can!
>>>
>>> Yeah, agreed. But this guy seems legit, has a big shop,
>>> boats only, OMC certified, etc.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Second, always feel the exhaust manifolds - if water is
>>> circulating they will be warm, not hot - and you are ok - if
>>> hot, you are not ok.
>>>
>>> That is one I will definitely try…..
>>>
>>> As to the power loss - the first thing to check is the
>>> compression - if any cylinder is low, say less than 120 psi,
>>> you could well have a cracked head - the most common crack
>>> is between the intake and exhaust valves which are very
>>> close together and the crack is usually very thin and hard
>>> to see - usually with this type of crack the engine will run
>>> fine when cold and then lose power as soon as it heats up -
>>> so it is best to check compression when it is hot. Dave
>>>
>>> And if it’s a cracked head, that spells new engine, right?
>>> Not fixable, right? (gulp).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> jdood wrote:
>>>
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>>>
>>> Ideal timing for this topic. I am dealing with my hot light
>>> coming on frequently. I have a 155hp Deluxe. I am on my
>>> 2nd mechanic now, problem still not solved. Going for a
>>> water test tomorrow with him. Just paid a bundle to have a
>>> new impeller and impeller housing replaced, and it
>>> definitely needed to be done. I just didn’t want to attempt
>>> it myself – not still during the season atleast. So now I
>>> have a nice new impeller, and supposedly a new engine water
>>> pump too (according to the 1st mechanic). So in theory,
>>> water should be flowing through the engine just fine. But
>>> the hot light still is coming on, and worse, I have barely
>>> any HP at full throttle. It tops out at about 10 mph. Not
>>> good, I know. For some stupid reason, the temp light was
>>> wired by some previous owner so It only comes on when the
>>> instrument lights are turned on. And of course I only
>>> discovered that after several times out. Most of those
>>> times it ran great, just wouldn’t start back up when hot.
>>> But the past 3 times it has had this throttle problem.
>>> I am just hoping nothing has been serious damaged.
>>> Anyway – will hopefully know more tomorrow after the water
>>> test. But my main question is this:
>>>
>>> I have always had outboards, all of which had a nice easy to
>>> see tell tale stream of water shooting out the side when
>>> things were working right. I asked 2 boat mechanics on
>>> separate occasions if stern drives were supposed to have the
>>> same thing, both said no – that outboards do, but i/o’s
>>> don’t. But this post says otherwise. So do they or don’t
>>> they? And if not, why not? How are you supposed to tell
>>> if water is circulating properly?
>>>
>>> jeff
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-omc-boats@...
>>> <mailto:owner-omc-boats@...>
>>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of David
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:20 PM
>>> To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
>>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>>>
>>> Curt,
>>> If the temp light is on the first thing to check is the
>>> stern drive while it is running - on the starboard side of
>>> the drive you should see a steady stream of water shooting
>>> out - if not shut her down - that would mean the impeller is
>>> not pumping at all. Next, if water is coming out open the
>>> engine cover and feel the exhaust manifolds - they should be
>>> cool enough to hold your hand on - if not and they feel
>>> really hot when the light is on, then shut her down - it
>>> would likely be the engine water pump, or the thermostat
>>> that needs attention. As to wintering, and I know people
>>> will flip at this, but I have seven OMC's and have had them
>>> for years and have always just opened the petcocks on each
>>> side of the block - never bothered taking off the water pump
>>> hoses etc. - just make sure the boat is realatively level
>>> and the block will drain down and you will not have any
>>> freezing problems. I keep an OMC V6 Sportsman on the davits
>>> on the back of my houseboat - and I have used it at 10 below
>>> zero - when I lift it back out of the water all I do is open
>>> those two petcocks - the only real problem I have is
>>> remembering to close them when I go for a ride - of course
>>> eventually warm water will creep up to my feet - a sure, but
>>> gentle reminder! Dave
>>>
>>> Curt Broek wrote:
>>>
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>>>
>>>Group,
>>>
>>>I am a relatively new owner. I have a Sportsman 155 acquired in a cabin
>>>
>>>purchase. Its in terrific condition. I'll post pics on the other site
>>>
>>>sometime soon.. I have a relatively basic question. The temp light goes on
>>>
>>>after a few minutes in the water. Do I need to replace the water pump and
>>>
>>>if so, do I need to know anything special to accomplish that. Where do I
>>>
>>>get parts? Also, I need to winterize it soon. Could anyone give me some
>>>
>>>pointers there too?
>>>
>>>Much appreciated,
>>>
>>>Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9/13/06 2:35 PM, "Curt Broek" <cabroek@...> <mailto:cabroek@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>David,
>>>>
>>>>Here are my vitals:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Curt Broek
>>>>
>>>>3941 Greenview Dr.
>>>>
>>>>Urbandale, IA
>>>>
>>>>cabroek@... <mailto:cabroek@...>
>>>>
>>>>'68 Sportsman 155
>>>>
>>>>(in Hackensack, MN)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I have had trouble getting emails to be sent when I reply. Let me know if
>>>>
>>>>you get this.
>>>>
>>>>Curt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 9/13/06 9:10 AM, "David" <odin@...> <mailto:odin@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Ok, as all the members on the membership listing know, I have sent out
>>>>>
>>>>>an updated listing - but only to the listed members - if anyone out
>>>>>
>>>>>there has not gotten a listing, and should have, let me know - Also, if
>>>>>
>>>>>anyone out there has not sent me all the info to get on the list, I am
>>>>>
>>>>>ready to add anyone at anytime - just let me know the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Name:
>>>>>
>>>>>Address:
>>>>>
>>>>>Telephone #:
>>>>>
>>>>>Email Address:
>>>>>
>>>>>OMC Boats owned:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>And I'll get you on the list and get a copy of the list back to you. Dave
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