Re: [omc-boats] Sportsman engine model/serial # lookup?

Lee,

You've got me thinking about something else.

I know trailers and automobiles come with a dated certificate of
manufacture, is this true for boats? Has it always been?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Shuster" <lib1@...>
To: <omc-boats@...>
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 4:27 PM
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Sportsman engine model/serial # lookup?

> Glenn,
>
> That's right "electric-shift" stringer sterndrives remained in production
> another 7 or 8 years after boat production ceased, so you're absolutely
> right that his engine model could have been sourced from another OEM boat
> builder. But the sterndrive model number scheme remained the same and is
> listed on my website for all years, not just OMC boat years.
>
> The later OMC 400/800 stringer sterndrives (which adopted the thru-prop
> exhaust borrowed from the outboard line) used a different numbering schema
> are also listed.
>
> I don't doubt there were "one-of-nones" that were factory built.
> But the change from "colored-side" deck to "white-side" deck on the
> 16-foot E-rudes doesn't fall into the "special" category.
>
> The other point is just because a boat got sold or registered as a (for
> example) certain model year, say 1965, doesn't mean it wasn't leftover
> from the previous year's manufacturing run. The Hull plate model number
> might help clear that up, er, "more or less".
>
>
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Glenn comcast" <glennhalweg@...>
> Reply-To: omc-boats@...
> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 13:16:32 -0500
>
>>Lee,
>>
>>Since OMC sold engines to other companies there's no guarantee any
>>specific
>>engine was in a OMC boat. The Stringer's were still being built after the
>>boat line was discontinued.
>>
>>Another interesting fact/question, some of these boats and trailers where
>>"one of a kind". OMC had a Special Services Division the engineers and
>>exec's could have a boat built to there spec's, and a lot of them did.
>>They
>>also built boats for various boat shows around the country, the boats at
>>the
>>shows where for sale. The 1968 Rogue I bought was the display model for
>>the
>>Chicago Boat Show. Even the trailers on some of these where one of a kind.
>>
>>Glenn
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Lee Shuster" <lib1@...>
>>To: <omc-boats@...>
>>Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:42 PM
>>Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Sportsman engine model/serial # lookup?
>>
>>
>>> Ah yes, yet another interesting little fact/question on our beloved
>>> boats!
>>>
>>> With respect to your question about white gunwales on the 16-foot
>>> Evinrude
>>> hulls:
>>>
>>> My guess is you are talking about the cover shot of the Sweet 16 running
>>> the 90-S on the 1965 MOTORS brochure:
>>> http://www.old-omc.de/e_1965/seite_01front.jpg
>>>
>>> The answer is yes. The original 1964 introduction of the Sweet and Sport
>>> 16 outboards had the deck gel color (blur or gray) extending down the
>>> sides to the rub or spray molding rail and also over the brow on the
>>> bow.
>>>
>>> As either a running change or a model year change the "1965"
>>> Sweet/Sport-16 ran the "white" gel up the sides to meet at the horizonal
>>> surface. But the more interesting variation is the bow treatment above
>>> the
>>> rub rail. Some remain dark while some were white. Also, the cutoff for
>>> this change isn't real clear. Some boats that people think were
>>> registered
>>> as 1965 models, may have been leftover 1964 models, or they may have
>>> just
>>> been incorporated as "running" change.
>>>
>>> In my opinion this was done to give the illusion of more freeboard,
>>> rather
>>> than better looks. The 66 and 67 model Sportsmans continued with white
>>> sides and white brows at the bow.
>>>
>>> When the upper deck molding changed with the 68 models, they used a dark
>>> navy blue side above and below the rail.
>>>
>>> That gave way to a red/blue combination treatment on the 69 - 70 models.
>>>
>>> Hope this makes sense.
>>>
>>> Lee Shuster
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: Phil Budne <phil@...>
>>> Reply-To: omc-boats@...
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:42:37 -0400 (EDT)
>>>
>>>>> From: <lib1@...>
>>>>
>>>>> Over at www.fiberglassics.com they like to use JEGO for
>>>>> Johnson/Evinrude/Gale/OMC as they are typically talking about older
>>>>> outboards, not stringer sterndrives. see:
>>>>> http://www.fiberglassics.com/jego/
>>>>
>>>>Thanks! I've added this link to my site. The JEGO page also has a
>>>>link to www.old-omc.de which is replete with old catalogs.
>>>>
>>>>The 1965 Evinrude engine catalog;
>>>>
>>>> http://www.old-omc.de/index2.html
>>>>
>>>>Shows a Sweet '16 with white gunwales -- did boats ever come from
>>>>the factory like this?
>>>>
>>>>> Note: Us old farts remember when Gale was another badge-engineered
>>>>> brand
>>>>> of
>>>>> OMC outboard and later the Parts & Accessory Division of Outboard
>>>>> Marine
>>>>> Corporation.
>>>>
>>>>I was born in '61, and they stopped using the gale name around then,
>>>>so at least I'm not an old fart in one part of my life!
>>>>
>>>>P.S.
>>>>I've never tried to make a list of engine model numbers, but
>>>>I do note them on my boat models list when people send them to me:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>http://www.gull-wing.net/data.html
>>>>
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