Re: [omc-boats] Sportsman engine model/serial # lookup?

Lee,

I think the one's you've seen are probably the one's I'm talking about. The
17' was really all that a 60's or 70's standard sedan could tow safely and
for the most part no one drove pickups back then.

My 1970 Rogue had a dual axle trailer with more conventional tires than seen
on the other trailers and for what ever reason sealed waterproof drum
brakes. There were several other's I'm aware of all built for OMC exec's.
Considering the weight of the boat the single axle trailer was right at the
limit. We had a Old's Vista Cruiser with the big V-8 and although it pulled
it there is no way I'd want to go very far on the highway.

No mater what the published weight was once you had fuel, gear etc you could
easily be around 3500 lbs add that to how high the boat rode on the trailer
going uphill into the wind was a chore, crosswinds forget it, trying to stop
going downhill (you can see where this is going)

----- Original Message -----
From: "Lee Shuster" <lib1@...>
To: <omc-boats@...>
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Sportsman engine model/serial # lookup?

> Hi Glenn,
>
> There seems to be a handful of tandem axle EJO trailers around, mostly
> under Deluxe 17's. Or they might have been modified over the past 40+
> years by their owners? I've often been curious why the 19's didn't get
> treated to a tandem axle as std equipment?
>
> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
> From: "Glenn comcast" <glennhalweg@...>
> Reply-To: omc-boats@...
> Date: Wed, 20 Sep 2006 17:19:44 -0500
>
>>My "one of a kind" trailer comment refered to some trailers that were made
>>stronger with dual axle's and sealed drum style brakes.
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Tom Paquette" <tpaquette@...>
>>To: <omc-boats@...>
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:46 PM
>>Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Sportsman engine model/serial # lookup?
>>
>>
>>> Man my trailer could hold a house and it's for a 14'. Well said Lee.
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> Charlotte, NC
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]
>>> On
>>> Behalf Of Lee Shuster
>>> Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 5:46 PM
>>> To: omc-boats@...
>>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Sportsman engine model/serial # lookup?
>>>
>>> Jeff,
>>>
>>> You don't say (a picture would be worth a thousand words) what trailer
>>> you
>>> have under your boat, but most of our boats (mine was an exception) were
>>> sold as a package with the OMC custom-designed trailer, tailor-made by
>>> the
>>> factory for the specific boat.
>>>
>>> Back in the late fifties and early sixties, boat dealers and
>>> unsuspecting,
>>> newbie buyers would specify the bare minimum trailer in a short-sighted
>>> effort to save $25 to $50 (back then that was a lot!).
>>>
>>> OMC engineers came up with a very innovative and well-designed, very
>>> robustly built trailer, first for the 17, then the 14,16, & 19-ft. See:
>>> http://hhscott.com/evinrude/omc_trailers.htm
>>>
>>> They even used disc brakes and an innovative torsion-bar, rubber
>>> isolated
>>> (a
>>> la Torflex ?) independent suspension axle and a great titlting
>>> mechanism.
>>> Yes, by today's standards they are a bit long in the tooth (narrow track
>>> axle & rather odd size tires) but rickety and flismy they were not
>>> (properly
>>> maintained, especially compared to the trailers of their era. And
>>> because
>>> they were designed specifically to match the boat, they were
>>> well-balanced
>>> with respect to forward-bias tongue weight, something a lot of dealers
>>> didn't bother to do properly (some still don't).
>>>
>>> Lee Shuster
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>> From: "jdood" <jdood@...>
>>> Reply-To: omc-boats@...
>>> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 11:37:13 -0700
>>>
>>>>I'd like to know who came up with the trailer design for my 65
>>>>Deluxe......that rickety thing scares the hell out of me every time I
>>>>have to unhitch it!
>>>>
>>>>jeff
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Even the trailers on some of these where one of a kind.
>>>>
>>>>Glenn
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "Lee Shuster" <lib1@...>
>>>>To: <omc-boats@...>
>>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 12:42 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Sportsman engine model/serial # lookup?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ah yes, yet another interesting little fact/question on our beloved
>>>>boats!
>>>>>
>>>>> With respect to your question about white gunwales on the 16-foot
>>>>Evinrude
>>>>> hulls:
>>>>>
>>>>> My guess is you are talking about the cover shot of the Sweet 16
>>>>running
>>>>> the 90-S on the 1965 MOTORS brochure:
>>>>> http://www.old-omc.de/e_1965/seite_01front.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> The answer is yes. The original 1964 introduction of the Sweet and
>>>>Sport
>>>>> 16 outboards had the deck gel color (blur or gray) extending down the
>>>>> sides to the rub or spray molding rail and also over the brow on the
>>>>bow.
>>>>>
>>>>> As either a running change or a model year change the "1965"
>>>>> Sweet/Sport-16 ran the "white" gel up the sides to meet at the
>>>>horizonal
>>>>> surface. But the more interesting variation is the bow treatment above
>>>>the
>>>>> rub rail. Some remain dark while some were white. Also, the cutoff for
>>>>
>>>>> this change isn't real clear. Some boats that people think were
>>>>registered
>>>>> as 1965 models, may have been leftover 1964 models, or they may have
>>>>just
>>>>> been incorporated as "running" change.
>>>>>
>>>>> In my opinion this was done to give the illusion of more freeboard,
>>>>rather
>>>>> than better looks. The 66 and 67 model Sportsmans continued with white
>>>>
>>>>> sides and white brows at the bow.
>>>>>
>>>>> When the upper deck molding changed with the 68 models, they used a
>>>>dark
>>>>> navy blue side above and below the rail.
>>>>>
>>>>> That gave way to a red/blue combination treatment on the 69 - 70
>>>>models.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this makes sense.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lee Shuster
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
>>>>> From: Phil Budne <phil@...>
>>>>> Reply-To: omc-boats@...
>>>>> Date: Tue, 19 Sep 2006 10:42:37 -0400 (EDT)
>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: <lib1@...>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Over at www.fiberglassics.com they like to use JEGO for
>>>>>>> Johnson/Evinrude/Gale/OMC as they are typically talking about older
>>>>>>> outboards, not stringer sterndrives. see:
>>>>>>> http://www.fiberglassics.com/jego/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks! I've added this link to my site. The JEGO page also has a
>>>>>>link to www.old-omc.de which is replete with old catalogs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>The 1965 Evinrude engine catalog;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.old-omc.de/index2.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Shows a Sweet '16 with white gunwales -- did boats ever come from
>>>>>>the factory like this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note: Us old farts remember when Gale was another badge-engineered
>>>>brand
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> OMC outboard and later the Parts & Accessory Division of Outboard
>>>>Marine
>>>>>>> Corporation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I was born in '61, and they stopped using the gale name around then,
>>>>>>so at least I'm not an old fart in one part of my life!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>P.S.
>>>>>>I've never tried to make a list of engine model numbers, but
>>>>>>I do note them on my boat models list when people send them to me:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>http://www.gull-wing.net/data.html
>>>>>>
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