HELLO THEIR; can someone direct me some refrence to a replacement spring for my out drive on my 69 sportsman 155 it's the forword spring i can get one thru evinrude for 344dollers but is their some were i can get one a littel cheaper 0r is their a way i can fix my old one the ear that hooks on the housing is broke of can i just heat this up and bend the ear on then quwench it in cool water to temper it again if that would work or replace the reverse spring for the forword one.thanks for any help or suggestions leo owner 1969 sportsman.
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> 1. Re: Upper Unit Seal questions (BLDFW)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 08:58:20 -0700 (PDT)
>From: BLDFW <bldfw@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>To: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>Cc: omc-boats@...
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>Ethan,
>
>How's that for sticker shock?!!
>
>Here's the list I came up with which is comprised of anything that referenced "O-rings" or "Seals".? I'm not fully sure I need all these parts, especially those marked with an "**".?
>
>Do those types of oil seals usually get replaced when resealing an outdrive?
>
>-Bill
>
>
>Ref Vendor PN???? Name???????????????????? OEM PN???? Price
>4)? 18-7128??? -- O-Ring 18-7128?????????? (310590)?? 1.15??? 1.15
>13) 310327???? -- O RING?????????????????? (310327)?? 1.80??? 3.60
>16) 308622???? -- Vintage, O-RING????????? (308622)?? 2.73??? 2.73
>17) 308588???? -- Vintage, GASKET????????? (308588)?? 6.53??? 6.53
>26) 308768???? -- SEAL-GEAR HSG??????????? (308768)?? 7.70??? 7.70
>27) 308590???? -- SPRING?????????????????? (308590)?? 5.25??? 5.25
>32) 18-7121??? -- O-Ring 18-7121?????????? (308621)?? 1.28??? 1.28
>38) 308592???? -- GASKET?????????????????? (308592)?? 1.47??? 2.94
>46) 310611**?? -- Vintage, OIL SEAL??????? (310611)? 30.82?? 61.64
>48) 310581**?? -- VINTAGE,SEAL-BEARING HSG (310581)? 50.00? 100.00
>49) 310585???? -- O RING?????????????????? (310585)?? 1.61??? 1.61
>50) 553126???? -- O RING?????????????????? (553126)?? 3.00??? 3.00
>52) 18-7198-9? -- O-Ring 18-7198-9 (5/PKG) (308626)?? 5.34??? 5.34
>60) 18-3108??? -- S.S. Steel Key 18-3108?? (308928)?? 6.38??? 6.38
>61) 379475???? -- Impeller 777130????????? (379475)? 22.00?? 22.00
>64) 18-2020??? -- Oil Seal 18-200????????? (310649)? 12.73?? 25.46
>79) 9-76512??? -- SEAL RING GASKET 9-76512 (303059)?? 1.27??? 1.27
>83) 379587**?? -- Vintage, RETAINER & SEAL (379587)? 72.00?? 72.00
>All prices are in US Dollars
>??????????????????????????????????????????? Subtotal??????? 329.88
>??????????????????????????????????????????? Shipping????????? 0.00
>??????????????????????????????????????????? TOTAL?????????? 329.88
>(REF = reference number on the exploded diagrams)
>
>--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...> wrote:
>
>From: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>To: "BLDFW" <bldfw@...>
>Cc: omc-boats@...
>Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:56 AM
>
>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, BLDFW wrote:
>>Using the correct parts manual, I'm compiling a seals and o-ring listing
>>so I can properly reseal my upper unit.? Fortunately all of
>>the "seals and o-rings" are still available individually through
>>MarineEngine.com so I'm about to place the order
>
>I'd be interested in seeing your list when you get all done - I noticed
>some water in my upper unit oil last time I winterized and I'm planning on
>tearing it apart this winter to replace whatever seal has gone bad.? A list
>of parts and vendors would certain help this process.
>
>> PN 308768 Exhaust Seal
>> PN 308590 Spring? (related to the previous part)
>> They appear to seal the exhaust outlet in the upper unit where it mates
>> with the port on the intermediate housing.? I don't see anything that
>> resembles these them on my upper unit (see pic).?? Is this a part that
>> gets lost?? The inside of the upper unit cavity around the port is all
>> black so it's not been there for awhile
>
>The "exhaust seal" is this large black rubber ring gasket that fits in the
>outdrive, where it seals up against the intermediate housing.? The gasket
>slips onto the outdrive side and seals around the outer edge.? I'm not
>quite sure what the spring is, but perhaps it fits around the gasket and
>pinches it in place?? I've always thought it looked prone to falling off,
>especially when trailering with the drive raised.? I never thought about
>whether there might be a spring to hold it in place - perhaps that's why I
>haven't lost mine.? I thought the gasket was visibly "split" (i.e. a gap in
>one location)? though, which would correspond to not having a spring. but
>perhaps I'm mis-remembering.? I just looked at the parts list though:
>
>at epc.brp.com
>sterndrive
>1970
>155
>HUFM-19E-1970
>
>and 308768 is the "Exhast seal" and 308590 is the "Spring, seal" and
>they're part 26 and 27, which correspond to what I remember.? So it's
>probably a two-piece gasket with a retaining spring... Ahh, it looks like
>it's a rubber gasket with a split spring stretched over it - the spring is
>probably a bent ring of spring steel that pinches the gasket into place,
>rather than the long tension spring loop I was expecting.
>
>Here's a picture from when I had my outdrive separated:
>? http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~brodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg
>The seals is around the perimeter of the circular port in the front center
>of the drive (with the vertical division going down the middle).
>
>> Also, one other question.? PN 308596 Seal, is the big round plastic seal
>> that the water pump housing slips through when placed in position inside
>> the exhaust housing.? It's a $38.00 part.? Mine is present and in good
>> condition.? I'm not seeing any reason to replace it.? Anyone got an
>> opinion on that?
>
>
>308596 is the "seal, exhuast housing", which I remember being a huge gasket
>that fits between the upper and lower unit (#38) - the drive rotates on it.
>Mine was pretty ratty, but I forgot to order a new one, and haven't had any
>issues there yet after five years.? The upper and lower gear casings are
>sealed separately, so I think the only consequence of having a bad seal
>there would be leakage of exhaust out of the drive around the perimeter,
>which shouldn't be a big deal.? I wouldn't worry about it, especially if
>yours looks good.
>
>Ethan
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 11:22:49 -0600
>From: Lee Shuster <lee.k.shuster@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>To: "'Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's'"
> <omc-boats@...>, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
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>Just a reminder:
>
>To anyone who already owns an OMC Sterndrive parts Manual: The BRP site has an excellent online parts site that includes illustrations and ORIGINAL part numbers.
>
>You would be surprised how many of these OMC parts are still available thru their dealers.
>
>see: http://12.2.215.22/pub/default.asp?SessionId=864c21840bbf468d8751887fc2abdf5d&Lang=EN&brands=EJ,ATV,SEADOO,SKIDOO,SPORTBOAT,LYNX,ROADSTER
>
>The parts directory on sterndrives goes back to the 1967-1/2 (16C-series) which is where the "modern" era of the 5-bolt top cap electric shift started.
>
>Lee
>
>
>________________________________
>From: omc-boats-bounces@... [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...] On Behalf Of BLDFW
>Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:58 AM
>To: Ethan Brodsky
>Cc: omc-boats@...
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>
>Ethan,
>
>How's that for sticker shock?!!
>
>Here's the list I came up with which is comprised of anything that referenced "O-rings" or "Seals". I'm not fully sure I need all these parts, especially those marked with an "**".
>
>Do those types of oil seals usually get replaced when resealing an outdrive?
>
>-Bill
>
>
>Ref Vendor PN Name OEM PN Price
>4) 18-7128 -- O-Ring 18-7128 (310590) 1.15 1.15
>13) 310327 -- O RING (310327) 1.80 3.60
>16) 308622 -- Vintage, O-RING (308622) 2.73 2.73
>17) 308588 -- Vintage, GASKET (308588) 6.53 6.53
>26) 308768 -- SEAL-GEAR HSG (308768) 7.70 7.70
>27) 308590 -- SPRING (308590) 5.25 5.25
>32) 18-7121 -- O-Ring 18-7121 (308621) 1.28 1.28
>38) 308592 -- GASKET (308592) 1.47 2.94
>46) 310611** -- Vintage, OIL SEAL (310611) 30.82 61.64
>48) 310581** -- VINTAGE,SEAL-BEARING HSG (310581) 50.00 100.00
>49) 310585 -- O RING (310585) 1.61 1.61
>50) 553126 -- O RING (553126) 3.00 3.00
>52) 18-7198-9 -- O-Ring 18-7198-9 (5/PKG) (308626) 5.34 5.34
>60) 18-3108 -- S.S. Steel Key 18-3108 (308928) 6.38 6.38
>61) 379475 -- Impeller 777130 (379475) 22.00 22.00
>64) 18-2020 -- Oil Seal 18-200 (310649) 12.73 25.46
>79) 9-76512 -- SEAL RING GASKET 9-76512 (303059) 1.27 1.27
>83) 379587** -- Vintage, RETAINER & SEAL (379587) 72.00 72.00
>All prices are in US Dollars
> Subtotal 329.88
> Shipping 0.00
> TOTAL 329.88
>(REF = reference number on the exploded diagrams)
>
>--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...> wrote:
>
>From: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Upper Unit Seal questions
>To: "BLDFW" <bldfw@...>
>Cc: omc-boats@...
>Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:56 AM
>
>On Wed, 10 Jun 2009, BLDFW wrote:
>>Using the correct parts manual, I'm compiling a seals and o-ring listing
>>so I can properly reseal my upper unit. Fortunately all of
>>the "seals and o-rings" are still available individually through
>>MarineEngine.com so I'm about to place the order
>
>I'd be interested in seeing your list when you get all done - I noticed
>some water in my upper unit oil last time I winterized and I'm planning on
>tearing it apart this winter to replace whatever seal has gone bad. A list
>of parts and vendors would certain help this process.
>
>> PN 308768 Exhaust Seal
>> PN 308590 Spring (related to the previous part)
>> They appear to seal the exhaust outlet in the upper unit where it mates
>> with the port on the intermediate housing. I don't see anything that
>> resembles these them on my upper unit (see pic). Is this a part that
>> gets lost? The inside of the upper unit cavity around the port is all
>> black so it's not been there for awhile
>
>The "exhaust seal" is this large black rubber ring gasket that fits in the
>outdrive, where it seals up against the intermediate housing. The gasket
>slips onto the outdrive side and seals around the outer edge. I'm not
>quite sure what the spring is, but perhaps it fits around the gasket and
>pinches it in place? I've always thought it looked prone to falling off,
>especially when trailering with the drive raised. I never thought about
>whether there might be a spring to hold it in place - perhaps that's why I
>haven't lost mine. I thought the gasket was visibly "split" (i.e. a gap in
>one location) though, which would correspond to not having a spring. but
>perhaps I'm mis-remembering. I just looked at the parts list though:
>
>at epc.brp.com
>sterndrive
>1970
>155
>HUFM-19E-1970
>
>and 308768 is the "Exhast seal" and 308590 is the "Spring, seal" and
>they're part 26 and 27, which correspond to what I remember. So it's
>probably a two-piece gasket with a retaining spring... Ahh, it looks like
>it's a rubber gasket with a split spring stretched over it - the spring is
>probably a bent ring of spring steel that pinches the gasket into place,
>rather than the long tension spring loop I was expecting.
>
>Here's a picture from when I had my outdrive separated:
> http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/~brodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg<http://homepages.cae.wisc.edu/%7Ebrodskye/boat/parts/out_upper.jpg>
>The seals is around the perimeter of the circular port in the front center
>of the drive (with the vertical division going down the middle).
>
>> Also, one other question. PN 308596 Seal, is the big round plastic seal
>> that the water pump housing slips through when placed in position inside
>> the exhaust housing. It's a $38.00 part. Mine is present and in good
>> condition. I'm not seeing any reason to replace it. Anyone got an
>> opinion on that?
>
>
>308596 is the "seal, exhuast housing", which I remember being a huge gasket
>that fits between the upper and lower unit (#38) - the drive rotates on it.
>Mine was pretty ratty, but I forgot to order a new one, and haven't had any
>issues there yet after five years. The upper and lower gear casings are
>sealed separately, so I think the only consequence of having a bad seal
>there would be leakage of exhaust out of the drive around the perimeter,
>which shouldn't be a big deal. I wouldn't worry about it, especially if
>yours looks good.
>
>Ethan
>
>
>--
> Ethan Brodsky
>
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