Re: [OMC-Boats] Wiring questions

I'm now on a different computer with a larger screen and can more
clearly see you photos.

You have a stock GM-DELCO-OMC distributor with aftermarket (perhaps
Pertronix?) electronic (pointless) ignition module. No points, no
condensor, just the sealed electronic module, which requires the two
wires: 1) red (+12) IGN ON power and it 2) black to DIST (-) coil. So
most likely it's a Pertronix Ignitor (I) use the links I sent
yesterday to further ID it. Perhaps a call to PerTronix support will
verify the 46AB-V4 number?

These are good units and you simply now need to verify that the "brown
stuff" is clean and free to move (don't loose the springs). (Flush it
out with WD-40). The" brown stuff" is the rusty mechanical centrifugal
advance, which works in conjunction with the vacuum advance (the
silver can on the side of the distributor) Is there a vacuum hose
hooked up to the can?

At this point (bad pun) just verify static ignition timing, since you
don't have to worry about adjusting points dwell. I can't remember
(look it up on Petronix) but Ignitor I vs Ignitor II offers different
coil possibilities (with or without ballast). I'm guessing yours is
the Ignitor I. It's also possible it's not a PerTronix as I think
some others are out there as well.

Lee Shuster
utah

On Jun 18, 2009, at 12:36 PM, jd wrote:

>
> On Jun 18, 2009, at 10:57 AM, Lee Shuster wrote:
>
>>
>> JD,
>>
>> If you do a quick google on < DELCO 1110376 > and follow several
>> links
>>
>> You will see that number references Delco distributors used on
>> 1968-69 Jeep 225 V6's, as they were no longer being supplied to OMC
>> by GM after Buick sold the tooling to Kaiser-Jeep. (A 1970 OMC
>> engine, probably was really a leftover 1969.) So you most likely
>> have a distributor that originally came with an OMC engine, I'm
>> guessing that the 0910 sequence is a manufacturer's date code,
>> maybe 09 = 1969 and 10 = October ??.
>>
>> I couldn't find any relevant hits on the 46AB-V4 part
>>
>> Pictures are NOT clear enough to see if you have points or
>> Pertronix Ignitor replacement. You need to remove the rotor and
>> look underneath it.
>
> sorry for the crappy photos -will get more out later tonight with my
> real camera, but minimal time left at that point. that 2nd shot
> is with the the rotor removed. the brown stuff is the points.
> weird points, but points. brown it rusty metal. some sort of
> centrifugal point system or something i think i remember the
> mechanic mentioning.
>
>
>
>> You also need to follow the red and black wires inside the
>> distributor body to determine what's there.
>
> i need to verify, but i believe i remember seeing black went up to
> the points, and red went to that rectangular black plastic part
> with the white number sticker on the side. a condenser? i'll
> verify wires.
>
> ok - so it's looking like, original distributor, aftermarket
> weird points ?
>
>
>
> <IMG_0469.jpg><IMG_0468.jpg>
>
>
>> You most likely have the stock coil which requires the ballast
>> resistor, refer to prior e-mail messages for how to measure the
>> coil's primary resistance (with all wires removed).
>>
>> Again, a stock breaker points/condensor setup will only have a
>> single wire coming from the (-) "DIST" side of the coil (and it's
>> almost always a BLACK wire).
>>
>> Sounds like you got plenty of other issues. Sometimes it gets hard
>> to isolate and troubleshoot one thing at a time.
>
> yeah - esp when you're trying to figure out what piece in the chain
> does what. Now I know what the ballast resistor does!
>>
>>
>> Lee Shuster
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: omc-boats-bounces@... [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...
>> ] On Behalf Of jd
>> Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:21 AM
>> To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Wiring questions
>>
>> yes, my boat has been "molested" , esp with distributors last
>> summer, and has some non-stock things happening. But I think
>> the original distributer may have ended up back in there - I can tell
>> because of the blue paint on it's base. Anyway......
>>
>>>
>>> JD:
>>>
>>> 1) What year is your boat (only applies to wiring COLOR changes)?
>>> What Distributor do you have? More importantly what's inside your
>>> distributor? (See item 3 below.)
>>
>> BOAT: '64 ENGINE: odd fire V-6 155 '70
>>
>> DISTRIBUTOR: Couldn't see any brand but little condensor looking
>> thing on underside of "points" says 46AB-V4, and the side of dist
>> body is stamped 1110376 9010
>>
>> HERE'S PHOTOS (taken with phone so kinda fuzzy):
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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