Re: omc-boats-digest V1 #38

From: Thomas Klauber <tklauber@...>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 21:31:49 -0400

HI - Always start with the easy things to check - make sure the plug wires
are routed to the correct plugs - check the wiring connections that are
exposed and accessable
(the ones that get in the way of mechanics and get bumped or loose or
corrode such as power or ground wires ). Watch the fuel flow through the
carbeurator. You could be running on the idle circuit and not getting flow
duringpowerdue to something like a stuck or fuel logged float. Get a SELOC
manual if you want to keep the boat. Start one thing at a time and don't
give up. The boats are worth keeping and your efforts will slowly begin to
pay off. Happy Boating! Tom K.
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From: "omc-boats-digest" <owner-omc-boats-digest@...>
To: <omc-boats-digest@...>
Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 12:00 PM
Subject: omc-boats-digest V1 #38

>
> omc-boats-digest Sunday, June 16 2002 Volume 01 : Number
038
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>
>
> boat in water lack of power when in gear
> Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
> Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
> Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
> Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
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>
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 19:59:55 -0500
> From: "bob h" <omniverse@...>
> Subject: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
> Hi to everyone. A little update story about my '66 Evinrude Playmate.
>
> I think I just said it all in the subject line. Today is the first time in
> several years my boat has been afloat and engine running. As good as that
> sounds it was disappointing when the engine failed to remain running while
> the stern drive was in gear. It would just slow to a stop in a matter of
> seconds. Figuring it to be timing I made sure the breaker points were set
> accurately but I didn't get much farther than that. Was with my Dad
helping
> him (and he helped me) with his 40HP Force outboard which seems to have a
> faulty starter solenoid. He talked about how the model T cars used a spark
> advance lever or something, but he doesn't know anything about these old
OMC
> motors. I'll need to recheck throttle linkage cam setting later on after
> reading up about it in the repair manual.
>
> Anyway, that wasn't the major part of the disappointment. It turns out the
> water pump is able to work after some trial and error but I made the
mistake
> of leaving the "vernatherm" and associated valves of the thermostat out of
> the motor housing. Was thinking it would be better to get all the water
flow
> possible in case there were any temporary flow restrictions elsewhere. Bad
> idea. The motor started to overheat. So I gave up on it for the day. Not
> sure if I'll get back to it Sunday. Seems I don't spend enough time going
> over everything, I get through one portion of do-it-yourself Mechanics and
I
> quit for the day. The days being weeks apart too, more often than not.
>
> Parents 50th anniversary is coming up and I've been helping get "projects"
> done at their house, and place at the lake, before next week. Backyard
> driveway, patio, screened room just to name a few. Sure was nice sitting
out
> on the water in my own boat again anyway. My Dad suggests selling it and
> getting a reliable jon or bass boat with outboard. If I weren't so into
this
> cool old boat I wouldn't think twice. I'll let you all know how it goes
> either way.
>
> The End.
>
> Bob H.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 20:38:22 -0500
> From: "Jeff & mel" <jam82@...>
> Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
> Bob,what kind of engine do you have??Try running it on a garden
> hose or in a drum,,I have a reveler that I run on my trailer and it's
> a good way to set everything.....Jeff M
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: bob h <omniverse@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 7:59 PM
> Subject: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
>
> > Hi to everyone. A little update story about my '66 Evinrude Playmate.
> >
> > I think I just said it all in the subject line. Today is the first time
in
> > several years my boat has been afloat and engine running. As good as
that
> > sounds it was disappointing when the engine failed to remain running
while
> > the stern drive was in gear. It would just slow to a stop in a matter of
> > seconds. Figuring it to be timing I made sure the breaker points were
set
> > accurately but I didn't get much farther than that. Was with my Dad
> helping
> > him (and he helped me) with his 40HP Force outboard which seems to have
a
> > faulty starter solenoid. He talked about how the model T cars used a
spark
> > advance lever or something, but he doesn't know anything about these old
> OMC
> > motors. I'll need to recheck throttle linkage cam setting later on after
> > reading up about it in the repair manual.
> >
> > Anyway, that wasn't the major part of the disappointment. It turns out
the
> > water pump is able to work after some trial and error but I made the
> mistake
> > of leaving the "vernatherm" and associated valves of the thermostat out
of
> > the motor housing. Was thinking it would be better to get all the water
> flow
> > possible in case there were any temporary flow restrictions elsewhere.
Bad
> > idea. The motor started to overheat. So I gave up on it for the day. Not
> > sure if I'll get back to it Sunday. Seems I don't spend enough time
going
> > over everything, I get through one portion of do-it-yourself Mechanics
and
> I
> > quit for the day. The days being weeks apart too, more often than not.
> >
> > Parents 50th anniversary is coming up and I've been helping get
"projects"
> > done at their house, and place at the lake, before next week. Backyard
> > driveway, patio, screened room just to name a few. Sure was nice sitting
> out
> > on the water in my own boat again anyway. My Dad suggests selling it and
> > getting a reliable jon or bass boat with outboard. If I weren't so into
> this
> > cool old boat I wouldn't think twice. I'll let you all know how it goes
> > either way.
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Bob H.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 21:40:32 -0500
> From: "bob h" <omniverse@...>
> Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeff & mel" <jam82@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:38 PM
> Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
>
> > Bob,what kind of engine do you have??Try running it on a garden
> > hose or in a drum,,I have a reveler that I run on my trailer and it's
> > a good way to set everything.....Jeff M
>
> Hey there Jeff, yes I have a garden hose attachment from the previous
owner.
> What I neglected to use before today though was a little blocking piece
for
> the water outlet. Finally discovered it among all the junk that's
collected
> onboard. So... the water pump wasn't able to siphon enough through until
> that outlet on the side was covered. 4 years without doing all that stuff
is
> a long time so I forgot all about the procedure and relied too much on
> memory so thought I was doing okay just to hook up a hose.
> So yes, it's some dry land tuning and timing now before the next little
> adventure, now that I know I have water running through the pump.
> It's a 90HP V-4. Same year as boat, '66, and stern drive (I/O).
>
> P.S. stopped by a house where I saw a old OMC type boat, just enough to
see
> that it is a Evinrude Sportsman stern drive. Looking old but okay.
>
> Bob H.
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 21:57:45 -0500
> From: "Jeff & mel" <jam82@...>
> Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
> Bob,I own a 1969 johnson 155 reveler V-6 225 engine "155 hp ",,
> a guy down the road gave me a 1970 glastron V- 174 crestflite which
> I will restore soon,same engine and OMC drive as the reveler,lots of
> work,,but fun,,P S check your thermostat also..Jeff M
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: bob h <omniverse@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 9:40 PM
> Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
>
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jeff & mel" <jam82@...>
> > To: <omc-boats@...>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
> >
> >
> > > Bob,what kind of engine do you have??Try running it on a garden
> > > hose or in a drum,,I have a reveler that I run on my trailer and it's
> > > a good way to set everything.....Jeff M
> >
> > Hey there Jeff, yes I have a garden hose attachment from the previous
> owner.
> > What I neglected to use before today though was a little blocking piece
> for
> > the water outlet. Finally discovered it among all the junk that's
> collected
> > onboard. So... the water pump wasn't able to siphon enough through until
> > that outlet on the side was covered. 4 years without doing all that
stuff
> is
> > a long time so I forgot all about the procedure and relied too much on
> > memory so thought I was doing okay just to hook up a hose.
> > So yes, it's some dry land tuning and timing now before the next little
> > adventure, now that I know I have water running through the pump.
> > It's a 90HP V-4. Same year as boat, '66, and stern drive (I/O).
> >
> > P.S. stopped by a house where I saw a old OMC type boat, just enough to
> see
> > that it is a Evinrude Sportsman stern drive. Looking old but okay.
> >
> > Bob H.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 11:22:41 -0400
> From: "todd" <bocky@...>
> Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
> hi i have a 65 sweet 16 i/o the motor is stuck will not turn over motor
is
> out and on work bench any suggestions
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "bob h" <omniverse@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:59 PM
> Subject: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
>
> > Hi to everyone. A little update story about my '66 Evinrude Playmate.
> >
> > I think I just said it all in the subject line. Today is the first time
in
> > several years my boat has been afloat and engine running. As good as
that
> > sounds it was disappointing when the engine failed to remain running
while
> > the stern drive was in gear. It would just slow to a stop in a matter of
> > seconds. Figuring it to be timing I made sure the breaker points were
set
> > accurately but I didn't get much farther than that. Was with my Dad
> helping
> > him (and he helped me) with his 40HP Force outboard which seems to have
a
> > faulty starter solenoid. He talked about how the model T cars used a
spark
> > advance lever or something, but he doesn't know anything about these old
> OMC
> > motors. I'll need to recheck throttle linkage cam setting later on after
> > reading up about it in the repair manual.
> >
> > Anyway, that wasn't the major part of the disappointment. It turns out
the
> > water pump is able to work after some trial and error but I made the
> mistake
> > of leaving the "vernatherm" and associated valves of the thermostat out
of
> > the motor housing. Was thinking it would be better to get all the water
> flow
> > possible in case there were any temporary flow restrictions elsewhere.
Bad
> > idea. The motor started to overheat. So I gave up on it for the day. Not
> > sure if I'll get back to it Sunday. Seems I don't spend enough time
going
> > over everything, I get through one portion of do-it-yourself Mechanics
and
> I
> > quit for the day. The days being weeks apart too, more often than not.
> >
> > Parents 50th anniversary is coming up and I've been helping get
"projects"
> > done at their house, and place at the lake, before next week. Backyard
> > driveway, patio, screened room just to name a few. Sure was nice sitting
> out
> > on the water in my own boat again anyway. My Dad suggests selling it and
> > getting a reliable jon or bass boat with outboard. If I weren't so into
> this
> > cool old boat I wouldn't think twice. I'll let you all know how it goes
> > either way.
> >
> > The End.
> >
> > Bob H.
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Sun, 16 Jun 2002 10:49:06 -0500
> From: "Jeff & mel" <jam82@...>
> Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
> pull spark plugs,pour marvel mystery oil in cylinders ,let oil sit
> for a few days then try,,or pull heads,,jeff m
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: todd <bocky@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Sunday, June 16, 2002 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: boat in water lack of power when in gear
>
>
> > hi i have a 65 sweet 16 i/o the motor is stuck will not turn over
motor
> is
> > out and on work bench any suggestions
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "bob h" <omniverse@...>
> > To: <omc-boats@...>
> > Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2002 8:59 PM
> > Subject: boat in water lack of power when in gear
> >
> >
> > > Hi to everyone. A little update story about my '66 Evinrude Playmate.
> > >
> > > I think I just said it all in the subject line. Today is the first
time
> in
> > > several years my boat has been afloat and engine running. As good as
> that
> > > sounds it was disappointing when the engine failed to remain running
> while
> > > the stern drive was in gear. It would just slow to a stop in a matter
of
> > > seconds. Figuring it to be timing I made sure the breaker points were
> set
> > > accurately but I didn't get much farther than that. Was with my Dad
> > helping
> > > him (and he helped me) with his 40HP Force outboard which seems to
have
> a
> > > faulty starter solenoid. He talked about how the model T cars used a
> spark
> > > advance lever or something, but he doesn't know anything about these
old
> > OMC
> > > motors. I'll need to recheck throttle linkage cam setting later on
after
> > > reading up about it in the repair manual.
> > >
> > > Anyway, that wasn't the major part of the disappointment. It turns out
> the
> > > water pump is able to work after some trial and error but I made the
> > mistake
> > > of leaving the "vernatherm" and associated valves of the thermostat
out
> of
> > > the motor housing. Was thinking it would be better to get all the
water
> > flow
> > > possible in case there were any temporary flow restrictions elsewhere.
> Bad
> > > idea. The motor started to overheat. So I gave up on it for the day.
Not
> > > sure if I'll get back to it Sunday. Seems I don't spend enough time
> going
> > > over everything, I get through one portion of do-it-yourself Mechanics
> and
> > I
> > > quit for the day. The days being weeks apart too, more often than not.
> > >
> > > Parents 50th anniversary is coming up and I've been helping get
> "projects"
> > > done at their house, and place at the lake, before next week. Backyard
> > > driveway, patio, screened room just to name a few. Sure was nice
sitting
> > out
> > > on the water in my own boat again anyway. My Dad suggests selling it
and
> > > getting a reliable jon or bass boat with outboard. If I weren't so
into
> > this
> > > cool old boat I wouldn't think twice. I'll let you all know how it
goes
> > > either way.
> > >
> > > The End.
> > >
> > > Bob H.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of omc-boats-digest V1 #38
> ******************************
>
>
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