This answer is for Lee Hazen, I got a stern drive flusher on e-bay for the
69 Rogue - it replaces the end cap at the pivot point and you hook up a
garden hose and you can run the engine at low speeds and flush the system.
It cost me a bunch but works great. It is made by OMC and is a " flushing
adaptor kit" part #172367. They don't come up on ebay often, in fact mine is
the only one I've seen but I bet some dealers still have them.
To all ::: Thanks for the advice! I'll start with carb., plug wires then
coil and then maybe fuel pump. Somewhere in there I'll do a compression
test. I'll let you know if I'm getting anywhere. Tom Klauber
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> [omc-boats] diagnosis needed
> [omc-boats] Fw: diagnosis needed
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> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:13:04 -0400
> From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
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> I put the 69 Rogue in the river today. Boy did she run bad. I can not =
> figure out the diagnosis and need help. I recently did a tear down of =
> the engine for water in the oil last year. It is a Chevy 307ci/210hp V8. =
> Compression seemed OK. I was not able to find any cracks in the heads =
> or block and reassembled the motor with new gaskets and back in she =
> went. I assume it must have been water leaking around the intake =
> manifold gasket. Anyway no water in the oil this year. I have been =
> trying to get in the water this year but it seems to be one thing after =
> the other. Today I put in and she would crank and idle no problem =
> whatsoever but idling down below 800 rpm to put her in gear is iffy and =
> she will stall when you put her in gear unless you give it a little gas =
> and she will catch up but it makes maneuvering in close quarters =
> difficult. Anyway, once underway she does fine up to about 1200 rpm but =
> above that she sputters, backfires and if you dont back off throttle she =
> will quit. You can crank her out of the water and she will run fine, she =
> will idle and will rev up to wherever you want in or out of gear, but =
> under power she turns to jelly. I replaced the distributer cap, =
> points,condensor earlier this year and she tuned up nicely. I checked =
> the fuel pump output. I adjusted the valves earlier with the engine =
> running and went about a full turn on each one. I will check the plug =
> wires again. I see some seepage around the throttle body gasket but I =
> don't think that it is significant. I did a carb. inspection earlier =
> this year and it seemed OK so I think all screws at the carb. are tight. =
> I did not put in a new carb kit. There does not seem to be too much play =
> in the distributor. The coil is original or at least 20yrs old. Is the =
> problem gas or ignition? Could it be something in the sterndrive? Any =
> help would be appreciated. Tom Klauber
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I put the 69 Rogue in the river today. =
> Boy did she=20
> run bad. I can not figure out the diagnosis and need help. I =
> recently=20
> did a tear down of the engine for water in the oil last year. =
> It is a=20
> Chevy 307ci/210hp V8. Compression seemed OK. I was not able to=20
> find any cracks in the heads or block and reassembled the motor =
> with new=20
> gaskets and back in she went. I assume it must have been water leaking =
> around=20
> the intake manifold gasket. Anyway no water in the oil this year.=20
> I have been trying to get in the water this year but it seems to be =
> one=20
> thing after the other. Today I put in and she would crank and idle no =
> problem=20
> whatsoever but idling down below 800 rpm to put her in gear is iffy =
> and she=20
> will stall when you put her in gear unless you give it a little gas and =
> she will=20
> catch up but it makes maneuvering in close quarters difficult. Anyway, =
> once=20
> underway she does fine up to about 1200 rpm but above that she =
> sputters,=20
> backfires and if you dont back off throttle she will quit. You can =
> crank=20
> her out of the water and she will run fine, she will idle and will rev =
> up to=20
> wherever you want in or out of gear, but under power she turns to=20
> jelly. I replaced the distributer cap, points,condensor earlier =
> this year=20
> and she tuned up nicely. I checked the fuel pump output. I adjusted the =
> valves=20
> earlier with the engine running and went about a full turn on each =
> one. I=20
> will check the plug wires again. I see some seepage around the throttle =
> body=20
> gasket but I don't think that it is significant. I did a carb. =
> inspection=20
> earlier this year and it seemed OK so I think all screws at =
> the carb.=20
> are tight. I did not put in a new carb kit. There does not seem to =
> be too=20
> much play in the distributor. The coil is original or at least =
> 20yrs old.=20
> Is the problem gas or ignition? Could it be something in the =
> sterndrive?=20
> Any help would be appreciated. Tom =
> Klauber</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:20:53 -0400
> From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
> Subject: [omc-boats] Fw: diagnosis needed
>
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> From: Thomas Klauber=20
> To: omc-boats@...=20
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:13 PM
> Subject: diagnosis needed
>
>
> I put the 69 Rogue in the river today. Boy did she run bad. I can not =
> figure out the diagnosis and need help. I recently did a tear down of =
> the engine for water in the oil last year. It is a Chevy 307ci/210hp V8. =
> Compression seemed OK. I was not able to find any cracks in the heads =
> or block and reassembled the motor with new gaskets and back in she =
> went. I assume it must have been water leaking around the intake =
> manifold gasket. Anyway no water in the oil this year. I have been =
> trying to get in the water this year but it seems to be one thing after =
> the other. Today I put in and she would crank and idle no problem =
> whatsoever but idling down below 800 rpm to put her in gear is iffy and =
> she will stall when you put her in gear unless you give it a little gas =
> and she will catch up but it makes maneuvering in close quarters =
> difficult. Anyway, once underway she does fine up to about 1200 rpm but =
> above that she sputters, backfires and if you dont back off throttle she =
> will quit. You can crank her out of the water and she will run fine, she =
> will idle and will rev up to wherever you want in or out of gear, but =
> under power she turns to jelly. I replaced the distributer cap, =
> points,condensor earlier this year and she tuned up nicely. I checked =
> the fuel pump output. I adjusted the valves earlier with the engine =
> running and went about a full turn on each one. I will check the plug =
> wires again. I see some seepage around the throttle body gasket but I =
> don't think that it is significant. I did a carb. inspection earlier =
> this year and it seemed OK so I think all screws at the carb. are tight. =
> I did not put in a new carb kit. There does not seem to be too much play =
> in the distributor. The coil is original or at least 20yrs old. Is the =
> problem gas or ignition? Could it be something in the sterndrive? Any =
> help would be appreciated. Tom Klauber
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> title=3Dtklauber@... =
> href=3D"mailto:tklauber@...">Thomas=20
> Klauber</A> </DIV>
> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Domc-boats@...=20
> href=3D"mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</A> </DIV>
> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:13 PM</DIV>
> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> diagnosis needed</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I put the 69 Rogue in the river today. =
> Boy did she=20
> run bad. I can not figure out the diagnosis and need help. I =
> recently=20
> did a tear down of the engine for water in the oil last year. =
> It is a=20
> Chevy 307ci/210hp V8. Compression seemed OK. I was not able to=20
> find any cracks in the heads or block and reassembled the motor =
> with new=20
> gaskets and back in she went. I assume it must have been water leaking =
> around=20
> the intake manifold gasket. Anyway no water in the oil this year.=20
> I have been trying to get in the water this year but it seems to be =
> one=20
> thing after the other. Today I put in and she would crank and idle no =
> problem=20
> whatsoever but idling down below 800 rpm to put her in gear is iffy =
> and she=20
> will stall when you put her in gear unless you give it a little gas and =
> she will=20
> catch up but it makes maneuvering in close quarters difficult. Anyway, =
> once=20
> underway she does fine up to about 1200 rpm but above that she =
> sputters,=20
> backfires and if you dont back off throttle she will quit. You can =
> crank=20
> her out of the water and she will run fine, she will idle and will rev =
> up to=20
> wherever you want in or out of gear, but under power she turns to=20
> jelly. I replaced the distributer cap, points,condensor earlier =
> this year=20
> and she tuned up nicely. I checked the fuel pump output. I adjusted the =
> valves=20
> earlier with the engine running and went about a full turn on each =
> one. I=20
> will check the plug wires again. I see some seepage around the throttle =
> body=20
> gasket but I don't think that it is significant. I did a carb. =
> inspection=20
> earlier this year and it seemed OK so I think all screws at =
> the carb.=20
> are tight. I did not put in a new carb kit. There does not seem to =
> be too=20
> much play in the distributor. The coil is original or at least =
> 20yrs old.=20
> Is the problem gas or ignition? Could it be something in the =
> sterndrive?=20
> Any help would be appreciated. Tom =
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>
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:43:59 EDT
> From: LeeHazen@...
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Fw: diagnosis needed
>
> In a message dated 8/10/04 3:22:41 PM Central Daylight Time,
> tklauber@... writes:
>
> << I put the 69 Rogue in the river today. Boy did she run bad. I can not
> figure out the diagnosis and need help. I recently did a tear down of the
engine
> for water in the oil last year. It is a Chevy 307ci/210hp V8. Compression
> seemed OK. >>
>
> I used to have a 69 Seasport 155 and if the points got oxidised, it
wouldn't
> run worth a darn - if I gave it more throttle, it started slowing down.
Try
> replacing the points or filing the ones that are installed. Also, try
cleaning
> the fuse holder and the ignition fuse. Oxidation is common in that fuse
> holder assembly. Also, check the multipin interconnect that is in the
wiring
> harness just about 12" from the fuse panel. Any oxidation there will
cause
> big problems.
>
> If you have an engine that will fire but quits running after you release
the
> key,
> check the ballast resistor - it may be open. It is bypassed when cranking
to
> give the coil a little over 8 volts, then the resistor drops the 12 volts
to
> 6 volts
> to the coil when it is running.
>
> I have a 71 Johnson Surfer with the Chevy 307 V8 and I'm trying to
> figure out where water is getting into my oil. I don't see any cracks in
the
> block
> and all freeze plugs are in place.
>
> One or two owners ago, the intake manifold was replaced and I suspect that
> the gasket has failed. Water got into the engine oil and raised the oil
level
> a LOT. Previous owner ran it like that - when I got it, I checked and
level
> was
> WAY high. Drained the oil/water mix which looked like honey and was about
> the same consistancy. Very thick goo.
>
> The engine did start up OK after a little starting fluid primed it, then I
> shut it
> down and found out about the water.
>
> Does anyone have the flush adaptor that mounts on the side of the outdrive
> at the pivot point? Or, a flush adapter that hooks on down by the prop?
>
> good luck,
>
> Lee Hazen
> Old Hickory Lake
> Hendersonville, TN
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 00:37:28 EDT
> From: Mstvsnd@...
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Fw: diagnosis needed
>
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> I'm following this mechanical conversation about 1/4 of the way; most of
it
> is over my head, but some of it penetrates. I may be able to offer some
> insight into a flusher for the old Evinrude intake system. My 1964 Sweet
16
> originally had a '64 90-S outboard (which had similar problems to those I
see
> described - a careful carb tuning helped for about a week) that eventually
threw a
> wrist pin and scored the cylinder. It was toast, so I replaced it with an
> E-rude '75 70 hp and have had nothing but good luck since. In any event,
the old
> motor had the water intake down by the prop too and I was able to find a
> flusher specifically designed for that intake. I don't know if the
outdrive of an
> old E-rude I/O has a similar arrangement, but if it does, I have no use
for the
> flusher, and you're welcome to it.
>
> Mike Stevesand
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conve=
> rsation about 1/4 of the way; most of it is over my head, but some of it
pen=
> etrates. I may be able to offer some insight into a flusher for the
ol=
> d Evinrude intake system. My 1964 Sweet 16 originally had a '64 90-S
o=
> utboard (which had similar problems to those I see described - a careful
car=
> b tuning helped for about a week) that eventually threw a wrist pin and
scor=
> ed the cylinder. It was toast, so I replaced it with an E-rude '75
70=20=
> hp and have had nothing but good luck since. In any event, the old
mot=
> or had the water intake down by the prop too and I was able to find a
flushe=
> r specifically designed for that intake. I don't know if the
outdrive=20=
> of an old E-rude I/O has a similar arrangement, but if it does, I have no
us=
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> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2004 07:58:40 -0600
> From: <lib1@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Fw: diagnosis needed
>
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> Hi Thomas,
>
> Sorry to hear about your frustrating engine. It's hard to speculate, but =
> from what you've said you worked on with respect to your engine =
> re-assembly and ignition tune-up, I'd guess the problem is fuel or carb =
> related. Can you get a scope on the engine to make sure you have no =
> primary or secondary ignition issues? That will at least verify the coil =
> and HT wires are OK. My guess is there's fuel contaimination or issues =
> with the carb that are causing the backfiring and lack 0f power issues =
> beyond idle. You didn't say what the compression was in each cylinder =
> before and after you adjusted the valves? What sort of vacuum reading is =
> the engine pulling at idle? Hope these ideas help....
>
> Lee Shuster
> SLC, UT
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Thomas Klauber=20
> To: omc-boats-digest@...=20
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 2:20 PM
> Subject: [omc-boats] Fw: diagnosis needed
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Thomas Klauber=20
> To: omc-boats@...=20
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:13 PM
> Subject: diagnosis needed
>
>
> I put the 69 Rogue in the river today. Boy did she run bad. I can not =
> figure out the diagnosis and need help. I recently did a tear down of =
> the engine for water in the oil last year. It is a Chevy 307ci/210hp V8. =
> Compression seemed OK. I was not able to find any cracks in the heads =
> or block and reassembled the motor with new gaskets and back in she =
> went. I assume it must have been water leaking around the intake =
> manifold gasket. Anyway no water in the oil this year. I have been =
> trying to get in the water this year but it seems to be one thing after =
> the other. Today I put in and she would crank and idle no problem =
> whatsoever but idling down below 800 rpm to put her in gear is iffy and =
> she will stall when you put her in gear unless you give it a little gas =
> and she will catch up but it makes maneuvering in close quarters =
> difficult. Anyway, once underway she does fine up to about 1200 rpm but =
> above that she sputters, backfires and if you dont back off throttle she =
> will quit. You can crank her out of the water and she will run fine, she =
> will idle and will rev up to wherever you want in or out of gear, but =
> under power she turns to jelly. I replaced the distributer cap, =
> points,condensor earlier this year and she tuned up nicely. I checked =
> the fuel pump output. I adjusted the valves earlier with the engine =
> running and went about a full turn on each one. I will check the plug =
> wires again. I see some seepage around the throttle body gasket but I =
> don't think that it is significant. I did a carb. inspection earlier =
> this year and it seemed OK so I think all screws at the carb. are tight. =
> I did not put in a new carb kit. There does not seem to be too much play =
> in the distributor. The coil is original or at least 20yrs old. Is the =
> problem gas or ignition? Could it be something in the sterndrive? Any =
> help would be appreciated. Tom Klauber
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Thomas,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Sorry to hear about your frustrating =
> engine. It's=20
> hard to speculate, but from what you've said you worked on with respect =
> to your=20
> engine re-assembly and ignition tune-up, I'd guess the problem is fuel =
> or carb=20
> related. Can you get a scope on the engine to make sure you have no =
> primary or=20
> secondary ignition issues? That will at least verify the coil and HT =
> wires are=20
> OK. My guess is there's fuel contaimination or issues with the carb that =
> are=20
> causing the backfiring and lack 0f power issues beyond idle. You didn't =
> say what=20
> the compression was in each cylinder before and after you adjusted the =
> valves?=20
> What sort of vacuum reading is the engine pulling at idle? Hope these =
> ideas=20
> help....</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lee Shuster</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>SLC, UT</FONT></DIV>
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> <A title=3Dtklauber@... =
> href=3D"mailto:tklauber@...">Thomas=20
> Klauber</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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> =
> href=3D"mailto:omc-boats-digest@...">omc-boats-digest@...=
> om</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 10, 2004 =
> 2:20=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [omc-boats] Fw: =
> diagnosis=20
> needed</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message -----=20
> <DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
> title=3Dtklauber@... =
> href=3D"mailto:tklauber@...">Thomas=20
> Klauber</A> </DIV>
> <DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Domc-boats@...=20
> href=3D"mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</A> =
> </DIV>
> <DIV><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, August 10, 2004 3:13 PM</DIV>
> <DIV><B>Subject:</B> diagnosis needed</DIV></DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I put the 69 Rogue in the river =
> today. Boy did=20
> she run bad. I can not figure out the diagnosis and need =
> help. I=20
> recently did a tear down of the engine for water in the oil =
> last=20
> year. It is a Chevy 307ci/210hp V8. Compression seemed OK. I was =
> not=20
> able to find any cracks in the heads or block and reassembled the =
> motor=20
> with new gaskets and back in she went. I assume it must have been =
> water=20
> leaking around the intake manifold gasket. Anyway no water in the =
> oil=20
> this year. I have been trying to get in the water this year but =
> it seems=20
> to be one thing after the other. Today I put in and she would crank =
> and idle=20
> no problem whatsoever but idling down below 800 rpm to put her in =
> gear is=20
> iffy and she will stall when you put her in gear unless you give it a =
> little=20
> gas and she will catch up but it makes maneuvering in close quarters=20
> difficult. Anyway, once underway she does fine up to about 1200 =
> rpm but=20
> above that she sputters, backfires and if you dont back off =
> throttle she=20
> will quit. You can crank her out of the water and she will run fine, =
> she will=20
> idle and will rev up to wherever you want in or out of gear, but under =
>
> power she turns to jelly. I replaced the distributer cap,=20
> points,condensor earlier this year and she tuned up nicely. I checked =
> the fuel=20
> pump output. I adjusted the valves earlier with the engine running and =
> went=20
> about a full turn on each one. I will check the plug wires again. =
> I see=20
> some seepage around the throttle body gasket but I don't think that it =
> is=20
> significant. I did a carb. inspection earlier this year and it =
> seemed OK=20
> so I think all screws at the carb. are tight. I did not put in a =
> new carb=20
> kit. There does not seem to be too much play in the =
> distributor. The=20
> coil is original or at least 20yrs old. Is the problem gas or=20
> ignition? Could it be something in the sterndrive? Any help =
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> be appreciated. Tom Klauber</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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