That's cool that it was free enough to be extracted from the stern side
after taking off the drive unit.
I've head they some times won't dudge, which then means a motor pull to
drive it out from the input side.
So your 210 must be a Chevy 307? Does yours have the Mallory flatop
distributor or the GM-style?
Sounds like you'll be all set and ready to go. Never a bad idea to have an
extra set of ball gears sitting around.
Lee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
To: <omc-boats-digest@...>
Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2005 6:51 AM
Subject: [omc-boats] Re: omc-boats-digest V1 #248
> Lee, Thanks for your reply-I did it with the motor in but you have to pull
> the stern drive off. The year is 1969 and it is a 210 V8 Rogue. You are
> right about the change in design in the early 70's. The whole intermediate
> shaft with ball gear and bearings lifts out fairly easy if not frozen in
> the housing. The bearings are not the tapered later type. They are a large
> ball bearing and a larger roller bearing with the roller bearing having
> the inner pressed on race. The ball gears are like new as they were
> replaced about 4 years ago by a mechanic and I haven't done much boating
> ( read -spending all his time fixing an old boat ) since. The splines were
> in good shape and there is a small "o" ring on the splines to prevent the
> water rust scenario.It is all coming together now and we should be more
> active. It is not leaking when I checked yesterday. I am dewinterizing
> this weekend and should be ready soon. The weather is turning nice so it
> won't be long. I also bought a new set of ball gears from Sea Way and the
> intermediate ball gear is attached to the shaft and comes as an assembly.
> I will have them ready down the road when needed. Have a good weekend. TK
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "omc-boats-digest" <owner-omc-boats-digest@...>
> To: <omc-boats-digest@...>
> Sent: Saturday, March 12, 2005 12:00 PM
> Subject: omc-boats-digest V1 #248
>
>
>>
>> omc-boats-digest Saturday, March 12 2005 Volume 01 : Number
>> 248
>>
>>
>>
>> [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
>> Re: [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 22:57:22 -0500
>> From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
>> Subject: [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
>>
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>> I finally did it. I could not stand the small oil drip at the ball gear =
>> at the intermediate housing so I replaced the seal in the bearing =
>> retainer. You pull the ball gear and shaft from the intermediate housing
>> =
>> and there is a small clip which you remove which allows you to remove 2 =
>> bearings from the shaft. You have a bearing inner race pressed on the =
>> shaft that you have to remove prior to removing the bearing retainer. I =
>> have a press and a press tool to remove the race which I did and it came
>> =
>> off easily. I slipped the bearing retainer off and replaced the seal. I =
>> think the leak was from the seal. The rubber part of the seal looked =
>> warped like it had been soaked in solvent and I speculate that the =
>> previous mechanic that installed the replacement ball gear soaked the =
>> parts in solvent prior to reassembly and didn't notice the bad seal - =
>> anyway the seal presses out easily and the new one went in nicely. Put =
>> the retainer back on the shaft and install the outer bearing race then =
>> the 2 bearings and clip and you are done. Time will tell if I am =
>> correct. Just thought I would pass this on. TK
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I finally did it. I could not stand the
>> =
>> small oil=20
>> drip at the ball gear at the intermediate housing so I replaced the seal
>> =
>> in the=20
>> bearing retainer. You pull the ball gear and shaft from the intermediate
>> =
>> housing=20
>> and there is a small clip which you remove which allows you to remove 2 =
>> bearings=20
>> from the shaft. You have a bearing inner race pressed on the shaft that =
>> you have=20
>> to remove prior to removing the bearing retainer. I have a press and a =
>> press=20
>> tool to remove the race which I did and it came off easily. I slipped =
>> the=20
>> bearing retainer off and replaced the seal. I think the leak was from =
>> the seal.=20
>> The rubber part of the seal looked warped like it had been soaked in =
>> solvent and=20
>> I speculate that the previous mechanic that installed the replacement =
>> ball gear=20
>> soaked the parts in solvent prior to reassembly and didn't notice the =
>> bad seal -=20
>> anyway the seal presses out easily and the new one went in nicely. Put =
>> the=20
>> retainer back on the shaft and install the outer bearing race then the 2
>> =
>>
>> bearings and clip and you are done. Time will tell if I am correct. Just
>> =
>> thought=20
>> I would pass this on. TK</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>>
>> Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 06:47:31 -0700
>> From: <lib1@...>
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
>>
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>> Hi Tom,
>>
>> Great job, Tom! What year was this intermediate housing? I think in the
>> =
>> early seventies OMC changed the shaft bearing over to a tapered roller =
>> bearing design. I've heard one major weakness is moisture getting inside
>> =
>> the housing and rust causing the shaft splines to weaken. When that =
>> happens you get "instant neutral." That when you hope there's a friendly
>> =
>> boater nearby to tow you back in. So did you bite the bullet and do an =
>> engine pull or were you able to do it with everything in place? (So =
>> how's dumb I am!)
>>
>> How's the wear on the ball gears looking?=20
>>
>> Lee
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----=20
>> From: Thomas Klauber=20
>> To: omc-boats@...=20
>> Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 8:57 PM
>> Subject: [omc-boats] ball gear int. housing
>>
>>
>> I finally did it. I could not stand the small oil drip at the ball =
>> gear at the intermediate housing so I replaced the seal in the bearing =
>> retainer. You pull the ball gear and shaft from the intermediate housing
>> =
>> and there is a small clip which you remove which allows you to remove 2 =
>> bearings from the shaft. You have a bearing inner race pressed on the =
>> shaft that you have to remove prior to removing the bearing retainer. I =
>> have a press and a press tool to remove the race which I did and it came
>> =
>> off easily. I slipped the bearing retainer off and replaced the seal. I =
>> think the leak was from the seal. The rubber part of the seal looked =
>> warped like it had been soaked in solvent and I speculate that the =
>> previous mechanic that installed the replacement ball gear soaked the =
>> parts in solvent prior to reassembly and didn't notice the bad seal - =
>> anyway the seal presses out easily and the new one went in nicely. Put =
>> the retainer back on the shaft and install the outer bearing race then =
>> the 2 bearings and clip and you are done. Time will tell if I am =
>> correct. Just thought I would pass this on. TK
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi Tom,</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Great job, Tom! What year was =
>> this=20
>> intermediate housing? I think in the early seventies OMC changed the =
>> shaft=20
>> bearing over to a tapered roller bearing design. I've heard one major =
>> weakness=20
>> is moisture getting inside the housing and rust causing the shaft =
>> splines to=20
>> weaken. When that happens you get "instant neutral." That when you hope =
>> there's=20
>> a friendly boater nearby to tow you back in. So did you bite the bullet =
>> and do=20
>> an engine pull or were you able to do it with everything in place?
>> =
>> (So=20
>> how's dumb I am!)</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>How's the wear on the ball gears =
>> looking?=20
>> </FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Lee</FONT></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
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>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
>> <DIV=20
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>> black"><B>From:</B>=20
>> <A title=3Dtklauber@... =
>> href=3D"mailto:tklauber@...">Thomas=20
>> Klauber</A> </DIV>
>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
>> title=3Domc-boats@...=20
>> href=3D"mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</A> =
>> </DIV>
>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, March 11, 2005 =
>> 8:57=20
>> PM</DIV>
>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [omc-boats] ball gear =
>> int.=20
>> housing</DIV>
>> <DIV><BR></DIV>
>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I finally did it. I could not stand =
>> the small oil=20
>> drip at the ball gear at the intermediate housing so I replaced the =
>> seal in=20
>> the bearing retainer. You pull the ball gear and shaft from the =
>> intermediate=20
>> housing and there is a small clip which you remove which allows you to =
>> remove=20
>> 2 bearings from the shaft. You have a bearing inner race pressed on =
>> the shaft=20
>> that you have to remove prior to removing the bearing retainer. I have =
>> a press=20
>> and a press tool to remove the race which I did and it came off =
>> easily. I=20
>> slipped the bearing retainer off and replaced the seal. I think the =
>> leak was=20
>> from the seal. The rubber part of the seal looked warped like it had =
>> been=20
>> soaked in solvent and I speculate that the previous mechanic that =
>> installed=20
>> the replacement ball gear soaked the parts in solvent prior to =
>> reassembly and=20
>> didn't notice the bad seal - anyway the seal presses out easily and =
>> the new=20
>> one went in nicely. Put the retainer back on the shaft and install the =
>> outer=20
>> bearing race then the 2 bearings and clip and you are done. Time will =
>> tell if=20
>> I am correct. Just thought I would pass this on.=20
>> TK</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
>>
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>> End of omc-boats-digest V1 #248
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