Mike, where did you get the foam?
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From: "Masters, Michael" <mmasters@...>
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>I went the other way on the re-foaming. I have a 1966 17' OMC Dual Deluxe.
> The foam was saturated and wouldn't dry so I removed everything down to
> the
> hull. Then I built a new floor, resined the seams and edges, and drilled
> holes to pour in 2 part foam. It filled the hull and raised the floor.
> Very
> solid and firm. Just wanted you to know that either method can work and
> that
> it can be very exciting working with 2 part foam.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
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> On
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> I guess I didn't proof the text well enough! You need to make sure you
> don't
> over foam the hull as you will have to sand a lot of foam to get the floor
> back to the right level so the sides will fit back into place. You will
> become aware of this as you take things apart. I pulled the floor out and
> saved as much as I could to use as a template to cut the new plywood.
> Measure everything. Look at everything like seams and where the T nuts are
> placed - you need to measure their location so the seats will go back in
> proper position or otherwise you can mount the seats with wood screws.
> Don't
> screw them through the bottom! There will be a ghost edge at the floor and
> you don't want to fill above that level. You can leave 2-3 inches of the
> original foam at the edges to act as a ledge or level to know the height
> you
> need to refill. I think the factory put the floor in first and then
> injected
> the foam which expanded to fit the cavity. I did the reverse. I would pour
> a
> small amount of foam and put plastic sheet and a board on top so the foam
> would expand just to the height I wanted. Remove the sheet which will not
> stick to the foam and do another section next to it.You figure it out as
> you
> go. The foam is a 2 part mixture you mix and pour and it expands rapidly
> and
> with some force. It is cured say in 5 minutes. I wanted my floor to be as
> close to original so I didn't have to re-engineer things. The whole
> project
> took months as I am slow but the end result is perfect. I used regular
> plywood and common fiberglass materials. I used materials from a company
> called Fibre Glast - they do a nice business on line and ship fast. You
> want
> to use fresh materials. Let me know if this helps or if you need more
> info.
> I could spend hours on this subject. TK
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>>
>> omc-boats-digest Monday, August 22 2005 Volume 01 : Number
>> 367
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>>
>> [omc-boats] 69 Rogue Hull
>> Re: [omc-boats] 69 Rogue Hull
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>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 08:08:00 -0400
>> From: "Thomas Klauber" <tklauber@...>
>> Subject: [omc-boats] 69 Rogue Hull
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>> I redid the floor in my 69 Rogue about 3 years ago. The entire hull is
>> = filled with foam. There are 2 longitudinal stringers and one gray
>> PVC = pipe connecting the front "bilge" area to the rear bilge. I used
>> a large = Forstner drill bit to remove the foam. Some of it had gotten
>> = waterlogged. The stringers go from front to rear.They are not
>> visible = and are sheathed in fiberglass mat. They are anchored to the
>> fiberglass = hull with fiberglass. Their main purpose I think is to
>> provide rigidity = to the hull and more important they are where the
>> engine mounts are = supported under the engine compartment deck. The
>> fiberglass floor you = see in the engine compartment is over foam and
>> is a separate piece and = is glassed in at the edges - I did not touch
>> it. The floor surface is = plywood covered with fiberglass. There are
>> screws going through the = floor to the stringers. The seats mount to
>> "T" nuts in the reverse side = of the plywood. The foam is easy to get
>> out really. It is a 2 part = polyurethane foam. Rebuilding is the hard
>> part and really quite simple = but you need to take as many
>> measurements/photos before you start and = during the disassembly so
>> things will fit back together. Dimensions at = the rear hatch and side
>> panels are tight and you don't want to make many = mistakes. The wood
>> surrounding my front bilge had rotted and that's what = go me started.
>> Email if you need further instructions. Tom
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>> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I redid the floor in my 69 Rogue
>> about =
>> 3 years ago.=20
>> The entire hull is filled with foam. There are 2 longitudinal
>> stringers = and one=20 gray PVC pipe connecting the front "bilge" area
>> to the rear bilge. I = used a=20 large Forstner drill bit to remove
>> the foam. Some of it had gotten = waterlogged.=20 The stringers go
>> from front to rear.They are not visible and=20 are sheathed
>> in fiberglass mat. They are anchored to = the fiberglass=20 hull
>> with fiberglass.</FONT><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> Their main =
>> purpose I=20 think is to provide rigidity to the hull and more
>> important they are = where the=20 engine mounts are supported under
>> the engine compartment deck. The = fiberglass=20 floor you see in the
>> engine compartment is over foam and is a = separate=20 piece and
>> is glassed in at the edges - I did not touch it. The floor = surface
>> is=20 plywood covered with fiberglass. There are screws going through
>> the = floor to the=20 stringers. The seats mount to "T" nuts in the
>> reverse side of the = plywood. The=20 foam is easy to get out really.
>> It is a 2 part polyurethane foam. = Rebuilding is=20 the hard part and
>> really quite simple but you need to take as many=20
>> measurements/photos before you start and during the disassembly
>> so = things=20 will fit back together. Dimensions at the rear hatch
>> and side panels are = tight=20 and you don't want to make many
>> mistakes. The wood surrounding my front = bilge=20 had rotted and
>> that's what go me started. Email if you need further=20 instructions.
>> Tom</FONT></DIV></BODY></HTML>
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>> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2005 07:24:06 -0500
>> From: "Glenn Halweg" <glennhalweg@...>
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] 69 Rogue Hull
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>> Tom, you say rebuilding is the hard part and really quite simple.
>> What's = involved?=20
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>> From: Thomas Klauber=20
>> To: omc-boats-digest@...=20
>> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:08 AM
>> Subject: [omc-boats] 69 Rogue Hull
>>
>>
>> I redid the floor in my 69 Rogue about 3 years ago. The entire hull
>> is = filled with foam. There are 2 longitudinal stringers and one gray
>> PVC = pipe connecting the front "bilge" area to the rear bilge. I used
>> a large = Forstner drill bit to remove the foam. Some of it had gotten
>> = waterlogged. The stringers go from front to rear.They are not
>> visible = and are sheathed in fiberglass mat. They are anchored to the
>> fiberglass = hull with fiberglass. Their main purpose I think is to
>> provide rigidity = to the hull and more important they are where the
>> engine mounts are = supported under the engine compartment deck. The
>> fiberglass floor you = see in the engine compartment is over foam and
>> is a separate piece and = is glassed in at the edges - I did not touch
>> it. The floor surface is = plywood covered with fiberglass. There are
>> screws going through the = floor to the stringers. The seats mount to
>> "T" nuts in the reverse side = of the plywood. The foam is easy to get
>> out really. It is a 2 part = polyurethane foam. Rebuilding is the hard
>> part and really quite simple = but you need to take as many
>> measurements/photos before you start and = during the disassembly so
>> things will fit back together. Dimensions at = the rear hatch and side
>> panels are tight and you don't want to make many = mistakes. The wood
>> surrounding my front bilge had rotted and that's what = go me started.
>> Email if you need further instructions. Tom
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>> <DIV>Tom, you say rebuilding is the hard part and really quite =
>> simple.=20 What's involved? </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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>> black"><B>From:</B>=20 <A title=3Dtklauber@... =
>> href=3D"mailto:tklauber@...">Thomas=20
>> Klauber</A> </DIV>
>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A=20
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>> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, August 22, 2005
>> = 7:08=20 AM</DIV> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B>
>> [omc-boats] 69 Rogue = Hull</DIV> <DIV><BR></DIV> <DIV><FONT
>> face=3DArial size=3D2>I redid the floor in my 69 Rogue = about 3
>> years=20 ago. The entire hull is filled with foam. There are 2
>> longitudinal = stringers=20 and one gray PVC pipe connecting the
>> front "bilge" area to the rear = bilge. I=20 used a large Forstner
>> drill bit to remove the foam. Some of it had = gotten=20 waterlogged.
>> The stringers go from front to rear.They are not = visible and=20
>> are sheathed in fiberglass mat. They are anchored to =
>> the fiberglass=20 hull with fiberglass.</FONT><FONT face=3DArial
>> size=3D2> Their = main purpose I=20 think is to provide rigidity
>> to the hull and more important they are = where the=20 engine mounts
>> are supported under the engine compartment deck. The = fiberglass=20
>> floor you see in the engine compartment is over foam and is a =
>> separate=20 piece and is glassed in at the edges - I did not touch
>> it. The floor = surface=20 is plywood covered with fiberglass. There
>> are screws going through the = floor=20 to the stringers. The seats
>> mount to "T" nuts in the reverse side of = the=20 plywood. The foam
>> is easy to get out really. It is a 2 part = polyurethane foam.=20
>> Rebuilding is the hard part and really quite simple but you need to =
>> take as=20 many measurements/photos before you start and during
>> the = disassembly so=20 things will fit back together. Dimensions at
>> the rear hatch and side = panels=20 are tight and you don't want to
>> make many mistakes. The wood = surrounding my=20 front bilge had
>> rotted and that's what go me started. Email if you = need=20 further
>> instructions. Tom</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>
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