I think my 69 rogue has the 5 wire system. I thought the plate was to keep
from putting in gear with the throttle revving too high but I never gave it
much thought. Tom K.
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> Hi,
>
> Hope everyone had a nice summer boating season and you are now getting =
> ready for winter?
>
> Over this past summer we did a ton of water-skiing lessons and that =
> involved doing a lot of docking (every 45-50 minutes to drop off/pick up =
> students). It got me to thinking and I wanted to get the group's =
> feedback on the following issue:
>
> One of the few areas that OMC permitted Evinrude and Johnson to =
> "customize" the engineering (outside of color and trim) of their =
> products was their unique, respective electric shift-controller =
> technologies:
>
> Johnson & OMC adopted the single-motion/lever "ELECTRAMATIC" control; =
> while Evinrude had the push-button "SELECTSHIFT" gearshift with =
> separate, independent throttle. These control units first appeared on =
> 1962 75hp and 40hp high-line outboards, as well as all electric stringer =
> sterndrives built from 1962 - 1976. Both controller designs use small =
> switches to engage the shifter electro-magnetic coils, located on the =
> lower unit propshaft. On these designs, the "default" no-power position =
> is neutral. Power is applied/maintained to engage either FORWARD or =
> REVERSE.
>
> I grew up around (and thus "favored") the Evinrude push-button type, but =
> after this summer, I have found its designed "flawed," from several =
> viewpoints compared to the Johnson design.
>
>
> 1) As far as I know, our 1962 - 1970 EJ/O boats DO NOT feature a =
> "in-gear" safety lock-out. Somebody correct me but I think this =
> important safety feature was added to all OMC sterndrives in 1971. This =
> is a very simple and cost-effective wiring modification that prevents =
> power from reaching the starter switch if the shifter (push button or =
> single-level) is left in gear when you hit the starter. Check you =
> shifter's wiring connector, if it has 5-wires you have the safety =
> lock-out feature, 3-wire units DO NOT. The boating industry later =
> adopted this safety requirement on all engines above a certain minimum =
> power level. (Probably after being faced with liability law suits, where =
> a swimmer got injured, when a motor and prop were accidentally started =
> "in-gear.")
>
> 2) a) I mentioned that I thought the Evinrude push-button shifter is =
> "flawed." Here's why: The unit contains an adjustable mechanical =
> (adjustable) lockout panel, located just under the cover for the =
> push-button switches. This panel features "keyholes." When adjusted =
> properly, the keyholes slide forward as the throttle is advanced. Once =
> past 700 RPM (factory recommended throttle "mechanical" adjustment =
> point), the panel prevents the operator from shifting. This was done to =
> protect the lower unit from operator abuse. Problem is, in a =
> vibration-prone environment this adjustment can get out of whack and =
> prevent the operator from shifting at all.
>
> b) When shifting to reverse, it's bad ergonomics to move the =
> throttle "FORWARD" to increase speed. It's ergonomically =
> counterintuitive and doesn't follow established industry standards. Push =
> AHEAD to go FORWARD, PULL BACK to go in REVERSE, as in the Johnson/OMC =
> control.
>
> c) When I'm doing close-in manuneurving around docks, I often find =
> myself looking down to move my right hand from the throttle to locate =
> the shift control button. This takes my eyes off the "prize" if even for =
> a moment. Not good.
>
> 3) The Johnson/OMC shifter avoids the above problems, at the expense of =
> having to add a small red, START/WARM-UP throttle override. If you are =
> an Evinrude owner you may not know that this lever allows the operator =
> to move the single lever control to advance the throttle without =
> engaging forward or reverse gear. Some of the later versions of this =
> style control also incorporated a REVERSE lock-out button into the =
> throttle knob. So the Johnson/OMC throttle control lever has a slight =
> cam action resistance "feel," when compared to the Evinrude throttle, =
> but I know believe these are superior to the Evinrude design.
>
>
> In short, I suppose the original Evinrude push-button control has more =
> "Space-Age retro" historic appeal, but I've actually decided in the =
> interests safety and of making my Evinrude boat more "turn-key" user =
> friendly, I'm going to convert it this winter to the more widely =
> accepted single-lever style, and while I'm at it I'll incorporate the =
> "no-start-in-gear" safety lockout. If there's interest from the group, =
> I'll do a write-up with pictures and post it on my or Phil's website. =
> I'd hate to see anyone get hurt or have a bad experience.
>
> Lee Shuster
> Salt Lake City
>
>
>
> =20
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope everyone had a nice summer boating =
> season and=20
> you are now getting ready for winter?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Over this past summer we did a ton of =
> water-skiing=20
> lessons and that involved doing a lot of docking (every 45-50 minutes to =
> drop=20
> off/pick up students). It got me to thinking and I wanted to get the =
> group's=20
> feedback on the following issue:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of the few areas that OMC =
> permitted=20
> Evinrude and Johnson to "customize" the engineering (outside of color =
> and trim)=20
> of their products was their unique, respective electric =
> shift-controller=20
> technologies:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Johnson & OMC adopted the =
> single-motion/lever=20
> "ELECTRAMATIC" control; while Evinrude had the push-button "SELECTSHIFT" =
>
> gearshift with separate, independent throttle. These control units =
> first=20
> appeared on 1962 75hp and 40hp high-line outboards, as well as all =
> electric=20
> stringer sterndrives built from 1962 - 1976. Both controller designs use =
> small=20
> switches to engage the shifter electro-magnetic coils, located on the =
> lower unit=20
> propshaft. On these designs, the "default" no-power position is neutral. =
> Power=20
> is applied/maintained to engage either FORWARD or =
> REVERSE.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I grew up around (and thus "favored") =
> the Evinrude=20
> push-button type, but after this summer, I have found its designed=20
> "flawed," from several viewpoints compared to the Johnson =
> design.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) As far as I know, our 1962 - 1970=20
> EJ/O boats DO NOT feature a "in-gear" safety lock-out. Somebody =
> correct me=20
> but I think this important safety feature was added to all OMC =
> sterndrives in=20
> 1971. This is a very simple and cost-effective wiring modification that =
> prevents=20
> power from reaching the starter switch if the shifter (push button or=20
> single-level) is left in gear when you hit the starter. Check you =
> shifter's=20
> wiring connector, if it has 5-wires you have the safety =
> lock-out feature,=20
> 3-wire units DO NOT. The boating industry later adopted this safety =
> requirement=20
> on all engines above a certain minimum power level. (Probably after =
> being faced=20
> with liability law suits, where a swimmer got injured, when a motor =
> and=20
> prop were accidentally started "in-gear.")</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>2) a) I mentioned that I thought the Evinrude push-button shifter =
> is=20
> "flawed." Here's why: The unit contains an adjustable mechanical=20
> (adjustable) lockout panel, located just under the cover for the =
> push-button=20
> switches. This panel features "keyholes." When adjusted properly, the =
> keyholes=20
> slide forward as the throttle is advanced. Once past 700 RPM =
> (factory=20
> recommended throttle "mechanical" adjustment point), the panel =
> prevents the=20
> operator from shifting. This was done to protect the lower unit from =
> operator=20
> abuse. Problem is, in a vibration-prone environment this adjustment =
> can get=20
> out of whack and prevent the operator from shifting at all.</DIV>
> <DIV><BR> b) When shifting to reverse, it's bad ergonomics =
> to move=20
> the throttle "FORWARD" to increase speed. It's ergonomically =
> counterintuitive=20
> and doesn't follow established industry standards. Push AHEAD to go =
> FORWARD,=20
> PULL BACK to go in REVERSE, as in the Johnson/OMC control.</DIV>
> <DIV><BR>c) When I'm doing close-in manuneurving around docks, I often =
> find=20
> myself looking down to move my right hand from the throttle to locate =
> the=20
> shift control button. This takes my eyes off the "prize" if even for a =
> moment.=20
> Not good.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>3) The Johnson/OMC shifter avoids the above problems, at the =
> expense of=20
> having to add a small red, START/WARM-UP throttle override. If you are =
> an=20
> Evinrude owner you may not know that this lever allows the operator to =
> move the=20
> single lever control to advance the throttle without engaging forward or =
> reverse=20
> gear. Some of the later versions of this style control also incorporated =
> a=20
> REVERSE lock-out button into the throttle knob. So the Johnson/OMC =
> throttle=20
> control lever has a slight cam action resistance "feel," when compared =
> to the=20
> Evinrude throttle, but I know believe these are superior to the Evinrude =
>
> design.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>In short, I suppose the original Evinrude push-button=20
> control has more "Space-Age retro" historic appeal, but I've =
> actually=20
> decided in the interests safety and of making my Evinrude boat more =
> "turn-key"=20
> user friendly, I'm going to convert it this winter to the more widely =
> accepted=20
> single-lever style, and while I'm at it I'll incorporate the =
> "no-start-in-gear"=20
> safety lockout. If there's interest from the group, I'll do a write-up =
> with=20
> pictures and post it on my or Phil's website. I'd hate to see anyone get =
> hurt or=20
> have a bad experience.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Lee Shuster</DIV>
> <DIV>Salt Lake City</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
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> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 18:40:22 -0500
> From: "Glenn Halweg" <glennhalweg@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Shifter preferences?
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> Lee,
>
> I have one of each, push button is a pain to maneuver in my opinion. I =
> like very much the single throttle shift. Of course that's what I grew =
> up with.=20
>
> Glenn=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: lib1@...=20
> To: omc-boats@...=20
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:25 PM
> Subject: [omc-boats] Shifter preferences?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Hope everyone had a nice summer boating season and you are now getting =
> ready for winter?
>
> Over this past summer we did a ton of water-skiing lessons and that =
> involved doing a lot of docking (every 45-50 minutes to drop off/pick up =
> students). It got me to thinking and I wanted to get the group's =
> feedback on the following issue:
>
> One of the few areas that OMC permitted Evinrude and Johnson to =
> "customize" the engineering (outside of color and trim) of their =
> products was their unique, respective electric shift-controller =
> technologies:
>
> Johnson & OMC adopted the single-motion/lever "ELECTRAMATIC" control; =
> while Evinrude had the push-button "SELECTSHIFT" gearshift with =
> separate, independent throttle. These control units first appeared on =
> 1962 75hp and 40hp high-line outboards, as well as all electric stringer =
> sterndrives built from 1962 - 1976. Both controller designs use small =
> switches to engage the shifter electro-magnetic coils, located on the =
> lower unit propshaft. On these designs, the "default" no-power position =
> is neutral. Power is applied/maintained to engage either FORWARD or =
> REVERSE.
>
> I grew up around (and thus "favored") the Evinrude push-button type, =
> but after this summer, I have found its designed "flawed," from several =
> viewpoints compared to the Johnson design.
>
>
> 1) As far as I know, our 1962 - 1970 EJ/O boats DO NOT feature a =
> "in-gear" safety lock-out. Somebody correct me but I think this =
> important safety feature was added to all OMC sterndrives in 1971. This =
> is a very simple and cost-effective wiring modification that prevents =
> power from reaching the starter switch if the shifter (push button or =
> single-level) is left in gear when you hit the starter. Check you =
> shifter's wiring connector, if it has 5-wires you have the safety =
> lock-out feature, 3-wire units DO NOT. The boating industry later =
> adopted this safety requirement on all engines above a certain minimum =
> power level. (Probably after being faced with liability law suits, where =
> a swimmer got injured, when a motor and prop were accidentally started =
> "in-gear.")
>
> 2) a) I mentioned that I thought the Evinrude push-button shifter is =
> "flawed." Here's why: The unit contains an adjustable mechanical =
> (adjustable) lockout panel, located just under the cover for the =
> push-button switches. This panel features "keyholes." When adjusted =
> properly, the keyholes slide forward as the throttle is advanced. Once =
> past 700 RPM (factory recommended throttle "mechanical" adjustment =
> point), the panel prevents the operator from shifting. This was done to =
> protect the lower unit from operator abuse. Problem is, in a =
> vibration-prone environment this adjustment can get out of whack and =
> prevent the operator from shifting at all.
>
> b) When shifting to reverse, it's bad ergonomics to move the =
> throttle "FORWARD" to increase speed. It's ergonomically =
> counterintuitive and doesn't follow established industry standards. Push =
> AHEAD to go FORWARD, PULL BACK to go in REVERSE, as in the Johnson/OMC =
> control.
>
> c) When I'm doing close-in manuneurving around docks, I often find =
> myself looking down to move my right hand from the throttle to locate =
> the shift control button. This takes my eyes off the "prize" if even for =
> a moment. Not good.
>
> 3) The Johnson/OMC shifter avoids the above problems, at the expense =
> of having to add a small red, START/WARM-UP throttle override. If you =
> are an Evinrude owner you may not know that this lever allows the =
> operator to move the single lever control to advance the throttle =
> without engaging forward or reverse gear. Some of the later versions of =
> this style control also incorporated a REVERSE lock-out button into the =
> throttle knob. So the Johnson/OMC throttle control lever has a slight =
> cam action resistance "feel," when compared to the Evinrude throttle, =
> but I know believe these are superior to the Evinrude design.
>
>
> In short, I suppose the original Evinrude push-button control has more =
> "Space-Age retro" historic appeal, but I've actually decided in the =
> interests safety and of making my Evinrude boat more "turn-key" user =
> friendly, I'm going to convert it this winter to the more widely =
> accepted single-lever style, and while I'm at it I'll incorporate the =
> "no-start-in-gear" safety lockout. If there's interest from the group, =
> I'll do a write-up with pictures and post it on my or Phil's website. =
> I'd hate to see anyone get hurt or have a bad experience.
>
> Lee Shuster
> Salt Lake City
>
>
>
> =20
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> <DIV>Lee,</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>I have one of each, push button is a pain to maneuver in my =
> opinion. I like=20
> very much the single throttle shift. Of course that's what I grew up=20
> with. </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Glenn </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr=20
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> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dlib1@... =
> href=3D"mailto:lib1@...">lib1@...</A>=20
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Domc-boats@...=20
> href=3D"mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</A> =
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 26, =
> 2005 6:25=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [omc-boats] Shifter=20
> preferences?</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope everyone had a nice summer =
> boating season=20
> and you are now getting ready for winter?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Over this past summer we did a ton of =
>
> water-skiing lessons and that involved doing a lot of docking (every =
> 45-50=20
> minutes to drop off/pick up students). It got me to thinking and I =
> wanted to=20
> get the group's feedback on the following issue:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of the few areas that =
> OMC permitted=20
> Evinrude and Johnson to "customize" the engineering (outside of color =
> and=20
> trim) of their products was their unique, respective electric=20
> shift-controller technologies:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Johnson & OMC adopted the =
> single-motion/lever=20
> "ELECTRAMATIC" control; while Evinrude had the push-button =
> "SELECTSHIFT"=20
> gearshift with separate, independent throttle. These control =
> units first=20
> appeared on 1962 75hp and 40hp high-line outboards, as well as all =
> electric=20
> stringer sterndrives built from 1962 - 1976. Both controller designs =
> use small=20
> switches to engage the shifter electro-magnetic coils, located on the =
> lower=20
> unit propshaft. On these designs, the "default" no-power position is =
> neutral.=20
> Power is applied/maintained to engage either FORWARD or=20
> REVERSE.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I grew up around (and thus "favored") =
> the=20
> Evinrude push-button type, but after this summer, I have found =
> its=20
> designed "flawed," from several viewpoints compared to the Johnson=20
> design.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) As far as I know, our 1962 - 1970=20
> EJ/O boats DO NOT feature a "in-gear" safety lock-out. Somebody =
> correct=20
> me but I think this important safety feature was added to all OMC =
> sterndrives=20
> in 1971. This is a very simple and cost-effective wiring modification =
> that=20
> prevents power from reaching the starter switch if the shifter (push =
> button or=20
> single-level) is left in gear when you hit the starter. Check you =
> shifter's=20
> wiring connector, if it has 5-wires you have the safety =
> lock-out feature,=20
> 3-wire units DO NOT. The boating industry later adopted this safety=20
> requirement on all engines above a certain minimum power level. =
> (Probably=20
> after being faced with liability law suits, where a swimmer got =
> injured,=20
> when a motor and prop were accidentally started =
> "in-gear.")</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>2) a) I mentioned that I thought the Evinrude push-button =
> shifter is=20
> "flawed." Here's why: The unit contains an =
> adjustable mechanical=20
> (adjustable) lockout panel, located just under the cover for the =
> push-button=20
> switches. This panel features "keyholes." When adjusted properly, =
> the=20
> keyholes slide forward as the throttle is advanced. Once past =
> 700 RPM=20
> (factory recommended throttle "mechanical" adjustment point), the =
> panel=20
> prevents the operator from shifting. This was done to protect the =
> lower unit=20
> from operator abuse. Problem is, in a vibration-prone environment =
> this=20
> adjustment can get out of whack and prevent the operator from =
> shifting at=20
> all.</DIV>
> <DIV><BR> b) When shifting to reverse, it's bad =
> ergonomics to=20
> move the throttle "FORWARD" to increase speed. It's ergonomically=20
> counterintuitive and doesn't follow established industry standards. =
> Push=20
> AHEAD to go FORWARD, PULL BACK to go in REVERSE, as in the =
> Johnson/OMC=20
> control.</DIV>
> <DIV><BR>c) When I'm doing close-in manuneurving around docks, I =
> often find=20
> myself looking down to move my right hand from the throttle to =
> locate the=20
> shift control button. This takes my eyes off the "prize" if even for =
> a=20
> moment. Not good.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>3) The Johnson/OMC shifter avoids the above problems, at the =
> expense of=20
> having to add a small red, START/WARM-UP throttle override. If you are =
> an=20
> Evinrude owner you may not know that this lever allows the operator to =
> move=20
> the single lever control to advance the throttle without engaging =
> forward or=20
> reverse gear. Some of the later versions of this style control also=20
> incorporated a REVERSE lock-out button into the throttle knob. So the=20
> Johnson/OMC throttle control lever has a slight cam action resistance =
> "feel,"=20
> when compared to the Evinrude throttle, but I know believe these are =
> superior=20
> to the Evinrude design.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>In short, I suppose the original Evinrude push-button=20
> control has more "Space-Age retro" historic appeal, but I've =
>
> actually decided in the interests safety and of making my Evinrude =
> boat more=20
> "turn-key" user friendly, I'm going to convert it this winter to the =
> more=20
> widely accepted single-lever style, and while I'm at it I'll =
> incorporate the=20
> "no-start-in-gear" safety lockout. If there's interest from the group, =
> I'll do=20
> a write-up with pictures and post it on my or Phil's website. I'd hate =
> to see=20
> anyone get hurt or have a bad experience.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Lee Shuster</DIV>
> <DIV>Salt Lake City</DIV>
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> <DIV> </DIV>
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> From: "Glenn Halweg" <glennhalweg@...>
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> Date: Wed, 26 Oct 2005 17:28:07 -0700
> From: "t-beach" <t-beach@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Shifter preferences?
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> Lee
>
> I would agree about the Johnson shifter. The original 90hp overdue came =
> with the pushbutton which was great until I replaced it with a 125 =
> Johnson which came with the shifter and safety feature of being un able =
> to start unless in neutral. I also love the lever to increase the idle =
> for warm-up.
>
> tom
> =20
>
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: Glenn Halweg=20
> To: omc-boats@...=20
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 4:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Shifter preferences?
>
>
> Lee,
>
> I have one of each, push button is a pain to maneuver in my opinion. I =
> like very much the single throttle shift. Of course that's what I grew =
> up with.=20
>
> Glenn=20
> ----- Original Message -----=20
> From: lib1@...=20
> To: omc-boats@...=20
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:25 PM
> Subject: [omc-boats] Shifter preferences?
>
>
> Hi,
>
> Hope everyone had a nice summer boating season and you are now =
> getting ready for winter?
>
> Over this past summer we did a ton of water-skiing lessons and that =
> involved doing a lot of docking (every 45-50 minutes to drop off/pick up =
> students). It got me to thinking and I wanted to get the group's =
> feedback on the following issue:
>
> One of the few areas that OMC permitted Evinrude and Johnson to =
> "customize" the engineering (outside of color and trim) of their =
> products was their unique, respective electric shift-controller =
> technologies:
>
> Johnson & OMC adopted the single-motion/lever "ELECTRAMATIC" =
> control; while Evinrude had the push-button "SELECTSHIFT" gearshift with =
> separate, independent throttle. These control units first appeared on =
> 1962 75hp and 40hp high-line outboards, as well as all electric stringer =
> sterndrives built from 1962 - 1976. Both controller designs use small =
> switches to engage the shifter electro-magnetic coils, located on the =
> lower unit propshaft. On these designs, the "default" no-power position =
> is neutral. Power is applied/maintained to engage either FORWARD or =
> REVERSE.
>
> I grew up around (and thus "favored") the Evinrude push-button type, =
> but after this summer, I have found its designed "flawed," from several =
> viewpoints compared to the Johnson design.
>
>
> 1) As far as I know, our 1962 - 1970 EJ/O boats DO NOT feature a =
> "in-gear" safety lock-out. Somebody correct me but I think this =
> important safety feature was added to all OMC sterndrives in 1971. This =
> is a very simple and cost-effective wiring modification that prevents =
> power from reaching the starter switch if the shifter (push button or =
> single-level) is left in gear when you hit the starter. Check you =
> shifter's wiring connector, if it has 5-wires you have the safety =
> lock-out feature, 3-wire units DO NOT. The boating industry later =
> adopted this safety requirement on all engines above a certain minimum =
> power level. (Probably after being faced with liability law suits, where =
> a swimmer got injured, when a motor and prop were accidentally started =
> "in-gear.")
>
> 2) a) I mentioned that I thought the Evinrude push-button shifter =
> is "flawed." Here's why: The unit contains an adjustable mechanical =
> (adjustable) lockout panel, located just under the cover for the =
> push-button switches. This panel features "keyholes." When adjusted =
> properly, the keyholes slide forward as the throttle is advanced. Once =
> past 700 RPM (factory recommended throttle "mechanical" adjustment =
> point), the panel prevents the operator from shifting. This was done to =
> protect the lower unit from operator abuse. Problem is, in a =
> vibration-prone environment this adjustment can get out of whack and =
> prevent the operator from shifting at all.
>
> b) When shifting to reverse, it's bad ergonomics to move the =
> throttle "FORWARD" to increase speed. It's ergonomically =
> counterintuitive and doesn't follow established industry standards. Push =
> AHEAD to go FORWARD, PULL BACK to go in REVERSE, as in the Johnson/OMC =
> control.
>
> c) When I'm doing close-in manuneurving around docks, I often find =
> myself looking down to move my right hand from the throttle to locate =
> the shift control button. This takes my eyes off the "prize" if even for =
> a moment. Not good.
>
> 3) The Johnson/OMC shifter avoids the above problems, at the expense =
> of having to add a small red, START/WARM-UP throttle override. If you =
> are an Evinrude owner you may not know that this lever allows the =
> operator to move the single lever control to advance the throttle =
> without engaging forward or reverse gear. Some of the later versions of =
> this style control also incorporated a REVERSE lock-out button into the =
> throttle knob. So the Johnson/OMC throttle control lever has a slight =
> cam action resistance "feel," when compared to the Evinrude throttle, =
> but I know believe these are superior to the Evinrude design.
>
>
> In short, I suppose the original Evinrude push-button control has =
> more "Space-Age retro" historic appeal, but I've actually decided in the =
> interests safety and of making my Evinrude boat more "turn-key" user =
> friendly, I'm going to convert it this winter to the more widely =
> accepted single-lever style, and while I'm at it I'll incorporate the =
> "no-start-in-gear" safety lockout. If there's interest from the group, =
> I'll do a write-up with pictures and post it on my or Phil's website. =
> I'd hate to see anyone get hurt or have a bad experience.
>
> Lee Shuster
> Salt Lake City
>
>
>
> =20
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> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> color=3D#800080>Lee</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> color=3D#800080></FONT></STRONG> </DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman" color=3D#800080>I would =
> agree about the=20
> Johnson shifter. The original 90hp overdue came with the =
> pushbutton which=20
> was great until I replaced it with a 125 Johnson which came with =
> the=20
> shifter and safety feature of being un able to start unless in =
> neutral. I=20
> also love the lever to increase the idle for =
> warm-up.</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
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> <DIV><STRONG><FONT face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
> color=3D#800080>tom</FONT></STRONG></DIV>
> <DIV> &n=
> bsp; <BR></DIV>
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> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dglennhalweg@... =
> href=3D"mailto:glennhalweg@...">Glenn=20
> Halweg</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Domc-boats@...=20
> href=3D"mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</A> =
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 26, =
> 2005 4:40=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [omc-boats] =
> Shifter=20
> preferences?</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV>Lee,</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>I have one of each, push button is a pain to maneuver in my =
> opinion. I=20
> like very much the single throttle shift. Of course that's what I grew =
> up=20
> with. </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Glenn </DIV>
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> <DIV=20
> style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
> black"><B>From:</B>=20
> <A title=3Dlib1@...=20
> href=3D"mailto:lib1@...">lib1@...</A> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
> title=3Domc-boats@...=20
> href=3D"mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</A> =
> </DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, October 26, =
> 2005 6:25=20
> PM</DIV>
> <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> [omc-boats] Shifter=20
> preferences?</DIV>
> <DIV><BR></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hi,</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Hope everyone had a nice summer =
> boating season=20
> and you are now getting ready for winter?</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Over this past summer we did a ton =
> of=20
> water-skiing lessons and that involved doing a lot of docking (every =
> 45-50=20
> minutes to drop off/pick up students). It got me to thinking and I =
> wanted to=20
> get the group's feedback on the following issue:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>One of the few areas that =
> OMC=20
> permitted Evinrude and Johnson to "customize" the engineering =
> (outside of=20
> color and trim) of their products was their unique, respective =
> electric=20
> shift-controller technologies:</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Johnson & OMC adopted the=20
> single-motion/lever "ELECTRAMATIC" control; while Evinrude had the=20
> push-button "SELECTSHIFT" gearshift with separate,=20
> independent throttle. These control units first appeared on =
> 1962 75hp=20
> and 40hp high-line outboards, as well as all electric stringer =
> sterndrives=20
> built from 1962 - 1976. Both controller designs use small switches =
> to engage=20
> the shifter electro-magnetic coils, located on the lower unit =
> propshaft. On=20
> these designs, the "default" no-power position is neutral. Power is=20
> applied/maintained to engage either FORWARD or =
> REVERSE.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>I grew up around (and thus =
> "favored") the=20
> Evinrude push-button type, but after this summer, I have found =
> its=20
> designed "flawed," from several viewpoints compared to the Johnson=20
> design.</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2></FONT> </DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>1) As far as I know, our 1962 - =
> 1970=20
> EJ/O boats DO NOT feature a "in-gear" safety lock-out. Somebody =
> correct=20
> me but I think this important safety feature was added to all OMC=20
> sterndrives in 1971. This is a very simple and cost-effective wiring =
>
> modification that prevents power from reaching the starter switch if =
> the=20
> shifter (push button or single-level) is left in gear when you hit =
> the=20
> starter. Check you shifter's wiring connector, if it has 5-wires you =
> have=20
> the safety lock-out feature, 3-wire units DO NOT. The boating =
> industry=20
> later adopted this safety requirement on all engines above a certain =
> minimum=20
> power level. (Probably after being faced with liability law suits,=20
> where a swimmer got injured, when a motor and prop were =
> accidentally=20
> started "in-gear.")</FONT></DIV>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2> </DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=3Dltr style=3D"MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">
> <DIV>2) a) I mentioned that I thought the Evinrude push-button =
> shifter is=20
> "flawed." Here's why: The unit contains an =
> adjustable mechanical=20
> (adjustable) lockout panel, located just under the cover for the=20
> push-button switches. This panel features "keyholes." When =
> adjusted=20
> properly, the keyholes slide forward as the throttle is advanced.=20
> Once past 700 RPM (factory recommended throttle "mechanical"=20
> adjustment point), the panel prevents the operator from shifting. =
> This was=20
> done to protect the lower unit from operator abuse. Problem is, in =
> a=20
> vibration-prone environment this adjustment can get out of whack =
> and=20
> prevent the operator from shifting at all.</DIV>
> <DIV><BR> b) When shifting to reverse, it's bad =
> ergonomics to=20
> move the throttle "FORWARD" to increase speed. It's ergonomically=20
> counterintuitive and doesn't follow established industry =
> standards. Push=20
> AHEAD to go FORWARD, PULL BACK to go in REVERSE, as in the =
> Johnson/OMC=20
> control.</DIV>
> <DIV><BR>c) When I'm doing close-in manuneurving around docks, I =
> often=20
> find myself looking down to move my right hand from the throttle =
> to locate=20
> the shift control button. This takes my eyes off the "prize" if =
> even for a=20
> moment. Not good.</DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>3) The Johnson/OMC shifter avoids the above problems, at the =
> expense of=20
> having to add a small red, START/WARM-UP throttle override. If you =
> are an=20
> Evinrude owner you may not know that this lever allows the operator =
> to move=20
> the single lever control to advance the throttle without engaging =
> forward or=20
> reverse gear. Some of the later versions of this style control also=20
> incorporated a REVERSE lock-out button into the throttle knob. So =
> the=20
> Johnson/OMC throttle control lever has a slight cam action =
> resistance=20
> "feel," when compared to the Evinrude throttle, but I know believe =
> these are=20
> superior to the Evinrude design.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>In short, I suppose the original Evinrude push-button =
>
> control has more "Space-Age retro" historic appeal, but =
> I've=20
> actually decided in the interests safety and of making my Evinrude =
> boat more=20
> "turn-key" user friendly, I'm going to convert it this winter to the =
> more=20
> widely accepted single-lever style, and while I'm at it I'll =
> incorporate the=20
> "no-start-in-gear" safety lockout. If there's interest from the =
> group, I'll=20
> do a write-up with pictures and post it on my or Phil's website. I'd =
> hate to=20
> see anyone get hurt or have a bad experience.</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV>Lee Shuster</DIV>
> <DIV>Salt Lake City</DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
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> face=3D"Times New Roman"=20
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> Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2005 07:15:44 -0500
> From: "Gregory B. Fell" <gfell@...>
> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Shifter preferences?
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> It=92s funny how you like what you=92re used to. I have the push =
> buttons. I
> think they are much more efficient in slow speed maneuvering and =
> docking. I
> have a hard time adjuster to the lever found in newer boats. I can =
> shift
> back and forth from forward and reverse and neutral instantly. When
> docking, I don=92t even have to touch the throttle. It=92s a simple =
> combination
> of button pushes to control speed. I also don=92t have to worry about
> searching for the right speed because the throttle never moves. =
> That=92s my
> take.
>
> =20
>
> Gregory B. Fell
>
> The Fell Law Firm
>
> 3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700
>
> Dallas, Texas 75219
>
> 972-488-8177
>
> 214-219-4218 - fax
>
> gfell@...
>
> _____ =20
>
> From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] =
> On
> Behalf Of lib1@...
> Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2005 6:26 PM
> To: omc-boats@...
> Subject: [omc-boats] Shifter preferences?
>
> =20
>
> Hi,
>
> =20
>
> Hope everyone had a nice summer boating season and you are now getting =
> ready
> for winter?
>
> =20
>
> Over this past summer we did a ton of water-skiing lessons and that =
> involved
> doing a lot of docking (every 45-50 minutes to drop off/pick up =
> students).
> It got me to thinking and I wanted to get the group's feedback on the
> following issue:
>
> =20
>
> One of the few areas that OMC permitted Evinrude and Johnson to =
> "customize"
> the engineering (outside of color and trim) of their products was their
> unique, respective electric shift-controller technologies:
>
> =20
>
> Johnson & OMC adopted the single-motion/lever "ELECTRAMATIC" control; =
> while
> Evinrude had the push-button "SELECTSHIFT" gearshift with separate,
> independent throttle. These control units first appeared on 1962 75hp =
> and
> 40hp high-line outboards, as well as all electric stringer sterndrives =
> built
> from 1962 - 1976. Both controller designs use small switches to engage =
> the
> shifter electro-magnetic coils, located on the lower unit propshaft. On
> these designs, the "default" no-power position is neutral. Power is
> applied/maintained to engage either FORWARD or REVERSE.
>
> =20
>
> I grew up around (and thus "favored") the Evinrude push-button type, but
> after this summer, I have found its designed "flawed," from several
> viewpoints compared to the Johnson design.
>
> =20
>
> =20
>
> 1) As far as I know, our 1962 - 1970 EJ/O boats DO NOT feature a =
> "in-gear"
> safety lock-out. Somebody correct me but I think this important safety
> feature was added to all OMC sterndrives in 1971. This is a very simple =
> and
> cost-effective wiring modification that prevents power from reaching the
> starter switch if the shifter (push button or single-level) is left in =
> gear
> when you hit the starter. Check you shifter's wiring connector, if it =
> has
> 5-wires you have the safety lock-out feature, 3-wire units DO NOT. The
> boating industry later adopted this safety requirement on all engines =
> above
> a certain minimum power level. (Probably after being faced with =
> liability
> law suits, where a swimmer got injured, when a motor and prop were
> accidentally started "in-gear.")
>
> =20
>
> 2) a) I mentioned that I thought the Evinrude push-button shifter is
> "flawed." Here's why: The unit contains an adjustable mechanical
> (adjustable) lockout panel, located just under the cover for the =
> push-button
> switches. This panel features "keyholes." When adjusted properly, the
> keyholes slide forward as the throttle is advanced. Once past 700 RPM
> (factory recommended throttle "mechanical" adjustment point), the panel
> prevents the operator from shifting. This was done to protect the lower =
> unit
> from operator abuse. Problem is, in a vibration-prone environment this
> adjustment can get out of whack and prevent the operator from shifting =
> at
> all.
>
>
> b) When shifting to reverse, it's bad ergonomics to move the throttle
> "FORWARD" to increase speed. It's ergonomically counterintuitive and =
> doesn't
> follow established industry standards. Push AHEAD to go FORWARD, PULL =
> BACK
> to go in REVERSE, as in the Johnson/OMC control.
>
>
> c) When I'm doing close-in manuneurving around docks, I often find =
> myself
> looking down to move my right hand from the throttle to locate the shift
> control button. This takes my eyes off the "prize" if even for a moment. =
> Not
> good.
>
> =20
>
> 3) The Johnson/OMC shifter avoids the above problems, at the expense of
> having to add a small red, START/WARM-UP throttle override. If you are =
> an
> Evinrude owner you may not know that this lever allows the operator to =
> move
> the single lever control to advance the throttle without engaging =
> forward or
> reverse gear. Some of the later versions of this style control also
> incorporated a REVERSE lock-out button into the throttle knob. So the
> Johnson/OMC throttle control lever has a slight cam action resistance
> "feel," when compared to the Evinrude throttle, but I know believe these =
> are
> superior to the Evinrude design.
>
> =20
>
> =20
>
> In short, I suppose the original Evinrude push-button control has more
> "Space-Age retro" historic appeal, but I've actually decided in the
> interests safety and of making my Evinrude boat more "turn-key" user
> friendly, I'm going to convert it this winter to the more widely =
> accepted
> single-lever style, and while I'm at it I'll incorporate the
> "no-start-in-gear" safety lockout. If there's interest from the group, =
> I'll
> do a write-up with pictures and post it on my or Phil's website. I'd =
> hate to
> see anyone get hurt or have a bad experience.
>
> =20
>
> Lee Shuster
>
> Salt Lake City
>
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> <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [omc-boats] =
> Shifter
> preferences?</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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> face=3D"Times New Roman"><span
> style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></font>=
> </p>
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>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
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>
> </div>
>
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>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hope everyone had a nice =
> summer
> boating season and you are now getting ready for =
> winter?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Over this past summer we =
> did a ton of
> water-skiing lessons and that involved doing a lot of docking (every =
> 45-50
> minutes to drop off/pick up students). It got me to thinking and I =
> wanted to
> get the group's feedback on the following =
> issue:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>One of the few =
> areas that
> OMC permitted Evinrude and Johnson to "customize" the =
> engineering
> (outside of color and trim) of their products was their =
> unique, respective
> electric shift-controller technologies:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Johnson & OMC adopted =
> the
> single-motion/lever "ELECTRAMATIC" control; while Evinrude had =
> the
> push-button "SELECTSHIFT" gearshift with separate,
> independent throttle. These control units first appeared on 1962 =
> 75hp and
> 40hp high-line outboards, as well as all electric stringer sterndrives =
> built
> from 1962 - 1976. Both controller designs use small switches to engage =
> the
> shifter electro-magnetic coils, located on the lower unit propshaft. On =
> these
> designs, the "default" no-power position is neutral. Power is
> applied/maintained to engage either FORWARD or =
> REVERSE.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>I grew up around (and thus
> "favored") the Evinrude push-button type, but after this =
> summer,
> I have found its designed "flawed," from several viewpoints =
> compared
> to the Johnson design.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>1) As far as I know, our =
> 1962 - 1970
> EJ/O boats DO NOT feature a "in-gear" safety lock-out. =
> Somebody
> correct me but I think this important safety feature was added to all =
> OMC
> sterndrives in 1971. This is a very simple and cost-effective wiring
> modification that prevents power from reaching the starter switch if the
> shifter (push button or single-level) is left in gear when you hit the =
> starter.
> Check you shifter's wiring connector, if it has 5-wires you have the =
> safety
> lock-out feature, 3-wire units DO NOT. The boating industry later =
> adopted
> this safety requirement on all engines above a certain minimum power =
> level.
> (Probably after being faced with liability law suits, where a =
> swimmer got
> injured, when a motor and prop were accidentally started =
> "in-gear.")<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <blockquote =
> style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>2) a) I mentioned that I =
> thought the
> Evinrude push-button shifter is "flawed." Here's why: The unit
> contains an adjustable mechanical (adjustable) lockout panel, =
> located just
> under the cover for the push-button switches. This panel features
> "keyholes." When adjusted properly, the keyholes slide forward =
> as the
> throttle is advanced. Once past 700 RPM (factory recommended =
> throttle
> "mechanical" adjustment point), the panel prevents the =
> operator from
> shifting. This was done to protect the lower unit from operator abuse. =
> Problem
> is, in a vibration-prone environment this adjustment can get out of =
> whack and
> prevent the operator from shifting at all.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br>
> b) When shifting to reverse, it's bad ergonomics to move =
> the
> throttle "FORWARD" to increase speed. It's ergonomically
> counterintuitive and doesn't follow established industry standards. Push =
> AHEAD
> to go FORWARD, PULL BACK to go in REVERSE, as in the Johnson/OMC =
> control.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'><br>
> c) When I'm doing close-in manuneurving around docks, I often find =
> myself
> looking down to move my right hand from the throttle to locate the shift
> control button. This takes my eyes off the "prize" if even for =
> a
> moment. Not good.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> </blockquote>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>3) The Johnson/OMC shifter =
> avoids
> the above problems, at the expense of having to add a small red, =
> START/WARM-UP
> throttle override. If you are an Evinrude owner you may not know that =
> this
> lever allows the operator to move the single lever control to advance =
> the
> throttle without engaging forward or reverse gear. Some of the later =
> versions
> of this style control also incorporated a REVERSE lock-out button into =
> the
> throttle knob. So the Johnson/OMC throttle control lever has a slight =
> cam
> action resistance "feel," when compared to the Evinrude =
> throttle, but
> I know believe these are superior to the Evinrude =
> design.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
> nt></p>
>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> <o:p></o:p></span></fo=
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>
> </div>
>
> <div>
>
> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>In short, I =
> suppose the
> original Evinrude push-button control has more "Space-Age
> retro" historic appeal, but I've actually decided in the =
> interests
> safety and of making my Evinrude boat more "turn-key" user =
> friendly,
> I'm going to convert it this winter to the more widely accepted =
> single-lever
> style, and while I'm at it I'll incorporate the =
> "no-start-in-gear"
> safety lockout. If there's interest from the group, I'll do a write-up =
> with
> pictures and post it on my or Phil's website. I'd hate to see anyone get =
> hurt
> or have a bad experience.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
>
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> <p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:.5in'><font size=3D2 =
> face=3DArial><span
> style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Lee =
> Shuster<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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