[omc-boats] Re: omc-boats-digest V1 #624

I have posted on this subject many times. I think the foam adds structural
strenghth to the hull keeping it from warping while on the trailer and it
also is a sound deadener and not to mention floatation properties. It can be
replaced with 2 part expanding foam that you can get from marine fiberglass
stores - it is probably an industrial item. I would not consider replacing
the floor without it. I would consider a long rod or tackle box in the
center of the floor. It is a 6 month project that needs plenty of thinking
and measuring and pictures so the end product works as well as the original.
Take your time. Now is the perfect time to start as the season for most of
us is up. A great winter project. I can answer more questions if you like
and you can email me direct if you like at tklauber@...
Tom K.
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> omc-boats-digest Thursday, November 2 2006 Volume 01 : Number
> 624
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>
> [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
> Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
> RE: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
> Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
> Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
> Re: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
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>
> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 10:24:00 -0800 (PST)
> From: A Mark <tinman694@...>
> Subject: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
> Probably didn't pay enough attention to the list, but
> wondered if anyone had removed the foam from under the
> floor and just replaced the sections with expansive
> foam filled bags (sealed) rather than filling the
> whole sections?
>
> Unfortunately, after exploring the center cavity on my
> 1970 Tiderider, The plastic 'drain tube' running down
> the center had ruptured at some time in the distant
> past and had soaked the rear section of foam. In the
> process of removing the whole floor and all of the old
> and SMELLY! foam. The stringers and hull are in good
> shape--just some dry rot on the non glassed spars in
> between the stringers.
>
> Was planning on re doing the floor to make a storage
> area in the center (for Ski's and fishing poles),
> installing the transducers for the depth finders, and
> putting a secondary bilge pump (by epoxying a piece of
> the polyethlene 'wood') to the hull for a mount. Then
> of course, make a deck of 3/4 marine plywood with a
> poly coating and carpet.
>
> Any suggestions or thoughts on doing the upgrade?
> This seems like it will lighten the boat by at least
> 1000 pounds by the weight of the saturated foam!
>
>
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 19:39:57 -0500
> From: "Andy Perakes" <aperakes@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
> Others on the list will be much better at providing an answer, but as I
> understand it, the foam is a structural member of the floor and if it is
> not
> bonded directly, you will certainly lose stiffness and thus strength. It
> is
> well worth the time to look through some of the old posts for details on
> how
> the other people have done this.
>
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> From: "A Mark" <tinman694@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:24 PM
> Subject: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
>
>> Probably didn't pay enough attention to the list, but
>> wondered if anyone had removed the foam from under the
>> floor and just replaced the sections with expansive
>> foam filled bags (sealed) rather than filling the
>> whole sections?
>>
>> Unfortunately, after exploring the center cavity on my
>> 1970 Tiderider, The plastic 'drain tube' running down
>> the center had ruptured at some time in the distant
>> past and had soaked the rear section of foam. In the
>> process of removing the whole floor and all of the old
>> and SMELLY! foam. The stringers and hull are in good
>> shape--just some dry rot on the non glassed spars in
>> between the stringers.
>>
>> Was planning on re doing the floor to make a storage
>> area in the center (for Ski's and fishing poles),
>> installing the transducers for the depth finders, and
>> putting a secondary bilge pump (by epoxying a piece of
>> the polyethlene 'wood') to the hull for a mount. Then
>> of course, make a deck of 3/4 marine plywood with a
>> poly coating and carpet.
>>
>> Any suggestions or thoughts on doing the upgrade?
>> This seems like it will lighten the boat by at least
>> 1000 pounds by the weight of the saturated foam!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Wed, 01 Nov 2006 19:32:04 -0600
> From: Willie Anderson <speednut@...>
> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
> But are the old posts archived somewhere?
>
> Willie
> 68 Evinrude Sportsman 155
>
> - -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-omc-boats@...
> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]On Behalf Of Andy Perakes
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:40 PM
> To: omc-boats@...
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
>
> Others on the list will be much better at providing an answer, but as I
> understand it, the foam is a structural member of the floor and if it is
> not
> bonded directly, you will certainly lose stiffness and thus strength. It
> is
> well worth the time to look through some of the old posts for details on
> how
> the other people have done this.
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "A Mark" <tinman694@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:24 PM
> Subject: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
>
>> Probably didn't pay enough attention to the list, but
>> wondered if anyone had removed the foam from under the
>> floor and just replaced the sections with expansive
>> foam filled bags (sealed) rather than filling the
>> whole sections?
>>
>> Unfortunately, after exploring the center cavity on my
>> 1970 Tiderider, The plastic 'drain tube' running down
>> the center had ruptured at some time in the distant
>> past and had soaked the rear section of foam. In the
>> process of removing the whole floor and all of the old
>> and SMELLY! foam. The stringers and hull are in good
>> shape--just some dry rot on the non glassed spars in
>> between the stringers.
>>
>> Was planning on re doing the floor to make a storage
>> area in the center (for Ski's and fishing poles),
>> installing the transducers for the depth finders, and
>> putting a secondary bilge pump (by epoxying a piece of
>> the polyethlene 'wood') to the hull for a mount. Then
>> of course, make a deck of 3/4 marine plywood with a
>> poly coating and carpet.
>>
>> Any suggestions or thoughts on doing the upgrade?
>> This seems like it will lighten the boat by at least
>> 1000 pounds by the weight of the saturated foam!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 22:34:23 -0500
> From: "Andy Perakes" <aperakes@...>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
> I thought there was a link, but I just checked and all it says is "A
> mailing
> list archive is available to list members." Worst case, I can dig through
> my filed e-mails and forward a few, but there are quite a few and it would
> take me a good while to dig through them to find the right ones (side
> effect
> of having too many knowledgable people posting).
>
> Phil: Perhaps you could enlighten us both on how to access the mailing
> list
> archive?
>
>
> - ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Willie Anderson" <speednut@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:32 PM
> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
>
>> But are the old posts archived somewhere?
>>
>> Willie
>> 68 Evinrude Sportsman 155
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-omc-boats@...
>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]On Behalf Of Andy Perakes
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:40 PM
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>>
>>
>> Others on the list will be much better at providing an answer, but as I
>> understand it, the foam is a structural member of the floor and if it is
> not
>> bonded directly, you will certainly lose stiffness and thus strength. It
> is
>> well worth the time to look through some of the old posts for details on
> how
>> the other people have done this.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "A Mark" <tinman694@...>
>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:24 PM
>> Subject: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>>
>>
>> > Probably didn't pay enough attention to the list, but
>> > wondered if anyone had removed the foam from under the
>> > floor and just replaced the sections with expansive
>> > foam filled bags (sealed) rather than filling the
>> > whole sections?
>> >
>> > Unfortunately, after exploring the center cavity on my
>> > 1970 Tiderider, The plastic 'drain tube' running down
>> > the center had ruptured at some time in the distant
>> > past and had soaked the rear section of foam. In the
>> > process of removing the whole floor and all of the old
>> > and SMELLY! foam. The stringers and hull are in good
>> > shape--just some dry rot on the non glassed spars in
>> > between the stringers.
>> >
>> > Was planning on re doing the floor to make a storage
>> > area in the center (for Ski's and fishing poles),
>> > installing the transducers for the depth finders, and
>> > putting a secondary bilge pump (by epoxying a piece of
>> > the polyethlene 'wood') to the hull for a mount. Then
>> > of course, make a deck of 3/4 marine plywood with a
>> > poly coating and carpet.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions or thoughts on doing the upgrade?
>> > This seems like it will lighten the boat by at least
>> > 1000 pounds by the weight of the saturated foam!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
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>> ________
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>> > Yahoo!
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> Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2006 23:18:47 -0500 (EST)
> From: Phil Budne <phil>
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
> Andy Perakes asked:
>> Phil: Perhaps you could enlighten us both on how to access the mailing
>> list
>> archive?
>
> Send a message "GET omc-boats filename" to majordomo@...
> ("INDEX omc-boats" will list all available files). I just did a
> search for the word "foam" in the archives, and the following month's
> files had matches;
>
> 200206 200208
> 200305 200308 200311
> 200403 200405 200406 200407 200408 200412
> 200501 200503 200504 200507 200508
> 200604 200605 200606 200607 200608 200609 200611
>
> On a semi-related topic, I will soon have a new server able to host
> the list, running more modern (MIME aware) software. Another idea
> that came up (that I haven't pursued) is to move the discussion list
> to a forum on the "FiberGlassics" site. I don't feel I need to run
> the list, but if it were to move to some place with a web-only
> interface, it's unlikely I would check it too often!
>
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> Date: Thu, 2 Nov 2006 9:14:09 -0500
> From: <tpaquette@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>
> It is definitely structural. you need to spray or pour closed cell foam
> into the hull.
>
> Tom
> Charlotte, NC
>
>>
>> From: "Andy Perakes" <aperakes@...>
>> Date: 2006/11/01 Wed PM 10:34:23 EST
>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>>
>> I thought there was a link, but I just checked and all it says is "A
>> mailing
>> list archive is available to list members." Worst case, I can dig
>> through
>> my filed e-mails and forward a few, but there are quite a few and it
>> would
>> take me a good while to dig through them to find the right ones (side
>> effect
>> of having too many knowledgable people posting).
>>
>> Phil: Perhaps you could enlighten us both on how to access the mailing
>> list
>> archive?
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Willie Anderson" <speednut@...>
>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>> Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 8:32 PM
>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>>
>>
>> > But are the old posts archived somewhere?
>> >
>> > Willie
>> > 68 Evinrude Sportsman 155
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: owner-omc-boats@...
>> > [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...]On Behalf Of Andy Perakes
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 6:40 PM
>> > To: omc-boats@...
>> > Subject: Re: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>> >
>> >
>> > Others on the list will be much better at providing an answer, but as I
>> > understand it, the foam is a structural member of the floor and if it
>> > is
>> not
>> > bonded directly, you will certainly lose stiffness and thus strength.
>> > It
>> is
>> > well worth the time to look through some of the old posts for details
>> > on
>> how
>> > the other people have done this.
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "A Mark" <tinman694@...>
>> > To: <omc-boats@...>
>> > Sent: Wednesday, November 01, 2006 1:24 PM
>> > Subject: [omc-boats] Underfloor Foam
>> >
>> >
>> > > Probably didn't pay enough attention to the list, but
>> > > wondered if anyone had removed the foam from under the
>> > > floor and just replaced the sections with expansive
>> > > foam filled bags (sealed) rather than filling the
>> > > whole sections?
>> > >
>> > > Unfortunately, after exploring the center cavity on my
>> > > 1970 Tiderider, The plastic 'drain tube' running down
>> > > the center had ruptured at some time in the distant
>> > > past and had soaked the rear section of foam. In the
>> > > process of removing the whole floor and all of the old
>> > > and SMELLY! foam. The stringers and hull are in good
>> > > shape--just some dry rot on the non glassed spars in
>> > > between the stringers.
>> > >
>> > > Was planning on re doing the floor to make a storage
>> > > area in the center (for Ski's and fishing poles),
>> > > installing the transducers for the depth finders, and
>> > > putting a secondary bilge pump (by epoxying a piece of
>> > > the polyethlene 'wood') to the hull for a mount. Then
>> > > of course, make a deck of 3/4 marine plywood with a
>> > > poly coating and carpet.
>> > >
>> > > Any suggestions or thoughts on doing the upgrade?
>> > > This seems like it will lighten the boat by at least
>> > > 1000 pounds by the weight of the saturated foam!
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
>> ____________________________________________________________________________
>> > ________
>> > > We have the perfect Group for you. Check out the handy changes to
>> > > Yahoo!
>> > Groups
>> > > (http://groups.yahoo.com)
>> > >
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