[omc-boats] RE: omc-boats-digest V1 #717 from MIKE MARY DAVIES on 2007-05-13 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: MIKE MARY DAVIES <crashboat@...>
Date: Sun, 13 May 2007 07:57:01 -0700

Hi Ken,

I too have a Sweet 16 (64) which I am just about to complete after 3 years
of fooling around. As I prepared to paint it i decided to cut out one small
soft spot in the plywood flooring - well, 1 small spot ended up turning into
a complete tear-out of all the flooring and the foam underneath!!! But boy
was I glad! I had always just thought the hull was heavy - we took out well
over 500 lbs. of damp foam!! What a difference - I shudder to think how the
boat would have performed had we not done that!
Anyway, it was fairly simple and fairly quick. We used a sawzall to cut the
plywood floor around the outside and then used knives, mini crowbars,
whatever to dig out the foam. The main stringer under the foam runs down
the center of the hull and is all fiberglass - no wood to replace. Once
cleaned out, we cut and positioned new 1/2" marine plywood, then (and this
worked great) I had a guy with a fiberglass chop gun sprayer come in and
spray a resin/fiber mix over the ply. Then I layed mat over the ply and
sprayed more resin. Was very quick and easy and contoured the edges very
nicely. Once the glass had set, the same guy came back, we drilled 4 holes
in the deck and he injected closed cell foam untill the flooring got tight
and the foam flowed out of the overflow holes. It is now very tight and
light! This guy uses the portable glass system to build insulated holds for
fishing boats. It was a little expensive for the foam/glass ($700) but very
quick and very thorough! I'd do it again!!

As for other upgrades - everything on my "Sweet Thang" has been upgraded. I
decided since this was going to be my most used boat (of 6) I wanted it to
be reliable. So I put a brand new Evinrude E-tec 90 on it. When I put in
the new floor, I had put in a new transom and glassed in 4 heavy supports
between the transom and the floor - so I have no doubts about the transom
strength. The E-tec is all that the hype says - its quiet, fast, &
economical! My old Sweet 16 will push nearly 50. I also upgraded to
Teleflex No Feedback cable stering with a tilt wheel - so much more reliable
and comfortable than cable. All new electrical, carpeting, upholstery,
everything - but its worth it. Sweet Thang truly is an all new 64 Evinrude
that I can comfortably take anywhere and one that draws crowds everywhere I
take it.

Feel free to email me for more specific questions or if you want to see
pictures!

Good luck, Mike

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>Subject: omc-boats-digest V1 #717
>Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 12:00:10 -0400 (EDT)
>
>omc-boats-digest Saturday, May 12 2007 Volume 01 : Number 717
>
>
>
>[omc-boats] rehap
>Re: [omc-boats] rehap
>
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>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 14:57:58 -0400
>From: "Kenneth A. Gullicksen" <kag@...>
>Subject: [omc-boats] rehap
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> Hi. I just signed up for the list, which is a totally new concept for
>me. I have what I assume to be a common question but don't know how to
>check for past dealings with it.
>
> Anyway, I have a 1966 Sweet Sixteen that I have had since the mid-70s.
>Since the mid-80's it has been sitting in my sister's yard. I am
>thinking of repowering it but am wondering if it is up to it. The hull
>and deck seem solid but there are a couple of holes on the bottom
>(mainly at the bow where it was grounded a few too many times). A drip
>from that area makes me think the foam is saturated, or at least wet.
>Anyone know how much water the foam can absorb (i.e. the amount of
>weight that would be added), whether there is any wood (bulkheads or
>whatever) under the deck that could be rotted out and, if it all needs
>to come out, how big a job it is?
>
> The trailer needs work to be useable so taking it somewhere to be
>weighed is not really an option. I don't want to spend the money to fix
>or replace the trailer until I know the hull is worth saving.
>
> I would also be curious to know if anyone has any advice on upgrades
>in general, e.g. replacing the tiller cable steering.
>
>
>
>Thanks.
>
>
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>Hi.  I just signed up for the list, which is a totally new concept =
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>me.  I have what I assume to be a common question but don’t =
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>to check for past dealings with it.
>
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>Anyway, I have a 1966 Sweet Sixteen that I have had since the =
>mid-70s. 
>Since the mid-80’s it has been sitting in my sister’s =
>yard.  I
>am thinking of repowering it but am wondering if it is up to it.  =
>The hull
>and deck seem solid but there are a couple of holes on the bottom =
>(mainly at
>the bow where it was grounded a few too many times).  A drip from =
>that
>area makes me think the foam is saturated, or at least wet.  Anyone =
>know
>how much water the foam can absorb (i.e. the amount of weight that would =
>be
>added), whether there is any wood (bulkheads or whatever) under the deck =
>that
>could be rotted out and, if it all needs to come out, how big a job it =
>is?
>
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>The trailer needs work to be useable so taking it somewhere to be =
>weighed is
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>or
>replace the trailer until I know the hull is worth =
>saving.
>
>style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'> 
>I would also be curious to know if anyone has any advice on upgrades in
>general, e.g. replacing the tiller cable steering.
>
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>Date: Fri, 11 May 2007 15:50:23 -0400
>From: <tpaquette@...>
>Subject: Re: [omc-boats] rehap
>
>Oh yes a common topic.
>
>The foam under the floor absorbs tremendous amounts of water once it gets
>in.
>
>Many of us have removed the thin plywood flooring. Removed the foam.
>Replaced the floor with marine ply and refoamed the core.
>
>It is not very difficult or expense. (Few hundred dollars perhaps)
>
>If you are good with basic fiberglassing it will take you a couple of
>weekends. There are some good photos that are somewhere on the site
>showing completed projects
>
>Others on the list are further along in the process than I am. Many have
>finished it. I am getting the new plywood and foam to complete the project
>next weekend as the weather is finally nice. Unless anyone thinks my Wife
>wont mind me doing it on Mothers Day weekend......
>
>As for the power, mine is an outboard so I cant speak too much to that, but
>it too is a common thread.
>
>
>Tom
>Charlotte, Nc
>
>
>
>
> >
> > From: "Kenneth A. Gullicksen" <kag@...>
> > Date: 2007/05/11 Fri PM 02:57:58 EDT
> > To: <omc-boats@...>
> > Subject: [omc-boats] rehap
> >
> > Hi. I just signed up for the list, which is a totally new concept for
> > me. I have what I assume to be a common question but don't know how to
> > check for past dealings with it.
> >
> > Anyway, I have a 1966 Sweet Sixteen that I have had since the mid-70s.
> > Since the mid-80's it has been sitting in my sister's yard. I am
> > thinking of repowering it but am wondering if it is up to it. The hull
> > and deck seem solid but there are a couple of holes on the bottom
> > (mainly at the bow where it was grounded a few too many times). A drip
> > from that area makes me think the foam is saturated, or at least wet.
> > Anyone know how much water the foam can absorb (i.e. the amount of
> > weight that would be added), whether there is any wood (bulkheads or
> > whatever) under the deck that could be rotted out and, if it all needs
> > to come out, how big a job it is?
> >
> > The trailer needs work to be useable so taking it somewhere to be
> > weighed is not really an option. I don't want to spend the money to fix
> > or replace the trailer until I know the hull is worth saving.
> >
> > I would also be curious to know if anyone has any advice on upgrades
> > in general, e.g. replacing the tiller cable steering.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
>
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