Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 25, Issue 89

Reply to John - there is a man on ebay from the phoenix area selling stern
drive parts - he has been there several years. You might check his site -
just go to ebay motors -boat parts -OMC. The lube for the stern drive has to
be special as there are electrical components in the fluid that must not be
damaged by the lubricant. These components are wires and the electromagnet
shifters. All these lubes are available. I get mine from Marysville Marine
Distributors of Marysville, MI. -phone 800-367-0987 or online at
marysvillemarine.com - welcome to the site, it is a lot of fun and very
informative. BTW - The marysville part number for the type c electric shift
gear lube is S-18-9620-2 (one quart). TK
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> 1. New Johnson Surfer owner with some basic questions
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> Date: Thu, 28 May 2009 03:08:45 +0000
> From: John Schmelzeis <johnsch@...>
> Subject: [OMC-Boats] New Johnson Surfer owner with some basic
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> Hi All,
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> I am the new owner of a 1967 Johnson Surfer Engine no. TU15S Boat model:
> 44204E. Based on the hhscott/envinrude site I've learned that OMC Type
> "C" is now called OMC/Bombardier Premium Blend and wondering:
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> * what is the recommended currently available product for OMC Type
> "A" lubricant
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> * Does any grease gun suffice or are there particular
> models/brands that have proven the best substitutes for the orginal Grease
> Gun OMC Type "A"
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> Final question for this email....:) Does anyone happen to know of or have
> a recommendation for a Marine Service company in the Phoenix Metro Area
> with OMC expertise or AZ in general?
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> Thanks,
> John
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> Date: Wed, 27 May 2009 20:32:49 -0700 (PDT)
> From: BLDFW <bldfw@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Manual question
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
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> If only it were that easy.? I just check the top of the upper unit and am
> not seeing anything like what you are referring to.? I even checked the
> intermediate housing to see if it was there.? Any chance you have a pic
> with a big old pointy thing showing the spot?
> ?
> Also, this afternoon, after cleaning all the gunk and grime off the
> intermediate housing,?I'm seeing a lot of maroon base coloring under white
> paint.? Earlier I mentioned seeing 'navy' blue peaking through the white
> paint on the?upper gear casing but I'm also finding evidence of marroon.?
> Was there a marroon colored outdrive or is that possibly just the base
> coat?? I've not had a chance to go back and check the Ultimate galleries
> to see for myself so thought I'd toss that question out there.
> ?
> -Bill
> Dallas, TX
> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC sterndrive
> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
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> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Lee Shuster <lks@...> wrote:
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> From: Lee Shuster <lks@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Manual question
> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
> <omc-boats@...>
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 9:35 PM
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>
> Bill,
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>
> I forgot about the "welch" plug ID located on the Port side on the top of
> the vertical drive assembly of the sterndrive leg. Early models had the
> sterndrive model number stamped on it. (HUE-12M for example would be a
> 1964 150 hp Buick V6).
> Later model sterndrives actually had a 6-digit part number and horsepower
> rating visible. My 1971 has "210 HP" clearly stamped into the welch plug.
>
>
> If you are standing behind the point and can see the black rubber bumper
> at the top of the drive unit, the welch plug should be visible, just
> slightly to the portside of the bumper.?
> The round welch plug is visible when the rudder is either straight ahead
> or in the forward starboard thrust position. If the rudder (prop) is
> turned to the Port side then the rotating upper cover will obscure the
> welch plug.
>
>
> It would be interesting to see what other owners report finding on their
> sterndrive welch plugs. I'll bet you aren't the only owner with a
> potentially non-original unit.
>
>
> Hope this helps to ID what you got.
>
>
> Lee
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> On May 27, 2009, at 3:00 PM, BLDFW wrote:
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> Thanks Lee,
> ?
> I do appreciate the assistance!? I'm learning a butt load from this
> experience and I hope everyone else is benefitting too!? I'll stick with
> it because it's the boat itself that strikes my fancy.? The?non-original
> engine/drivetrain is a tad of a let down?but they appear to be at least in
> sync with each other (both 64-67's) so it's not the end of the world and
> I'm not one to through the towel in at the first whiff of trouble.
> ?
> I went back to the recently remembered?Ken Cook website where they have
> manuals listed in threes....Owners, Parts, and Service and I know the
> Parts manual?is critical.? I want to get as close to the right versions as
> possible so I've been out cleaning on?stuff hoping against hope of finding
> a model number stamped somewhere.? No chance of that I see.??I'll go back
> through all the emails and coallate the suggestions on checking the
> ratios?to see what it comes out as.? Then I'll know what set to order.
> ?
> My favorite new mantra:? It's ONLY money!
> ?
> Jeesh!!? ;-)
> ?
> -Bill
> Dallas, TX
> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC sterndrive
> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
> ?
> ?
> ?
> ?
> --- On Wed, 5/27/09, Lee Shuster <lee.k.shuster@...> wrote:
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> From: Lee Shuster <lee.k.shuster@...>
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Manual question
> To: "'Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's'"
> <omc-boats@...>
> Date: Wednesday, May 27, 2009, 3:35 PM
>
>
>
> No difference. In subsequent later years?OMC combined the manuals.
> 120-155-210? or 4-6-8? essentially the same, except for gear ratios.
> ?
> What this manual doesn't cover is illustrated parts, which you?really need
> if you are going to attempt to reassemble and use this 4-cap unit with any
> chance at all of finding the correct parts. And even then you are facing a
> night-marish, up-hill, prolonged battle.
> ?
> The reason most sane people (who know OMC electric shift drives) run from
> the 64-67 drives is simply OMC made so many minor but important,
> evolutionary?service and reliability improvements, from 1968 to 1977 on
> the electric stringers. (Except?smart people?run even faster from the
> 62-68 DU-series (smaller) drive!).??OMC's devotion to product improvement
> was fanatical, yet effective.
> ?
> Nothing is impossible (given enough time & dollar resources) but I would
> highly encourage you to find the correct (for your boat/engine) sterndrive
> unit, that when properly rebuilt will provide a lifetime of reliable
> service. It may indeed exceed you budget, but if done properly it will
> exceed your expectations. It is indeed unfortunate that "Someone" along
> they way messed up your boat's "pedigree."? But know you are armed with
> the knowledge to un do their mistake (or not.)
> ?
> Been there.... Done that.
> ?
> Lee
> ?
>
>
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> Aside from perhaps a ratio difference, is there any other significant
> difference between a 120hp and a 155hp OMC Factory manual if they are the
> same year or in the 64-67 span?
>
> -Bill
> Dallas, TX
> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC sterndrive
> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
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