Re: [OMC-Boats] Carb and fuel gauge

Well, I found a float today that is darn similar to the Rochester
float. I was able to solder the original float pivot onto the float in
order to make it a quick fix. Then I'll order a new replacement float
and have them both. Thanks guys!

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 9:36 PM, Justin DeSantis <duc1098desmo@...> wrote:
> I knew I could count on you Lee! It's good to know they are so widely
> available on line. When I sent the e-mail, I hadn't had a chance to
> search for them. I didn't realize how widely used the Rochester was.
> Knowing that they used it on the GTO is helpful. There's an old coot
> who live near me who has built a few GTO's and he hordes parts for
> them. I'm going to go see him tomorrow and see if he has one. I'll
> order one if I can't get one local.
>
> Thanks again for the help. This list rocks. We need to organize a OMC
> Mailing list get together so I can repay some of you guys with a beer.
>
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Lee Shuster <lks@...> wrote:
>> My take on you CARB float parts-source problem:
>>
>> Your auto parts store simply doesn't have access to the same suppliers that
>> the Rochester Carb (you do have a Roc-cha-cha 2GC, right?) Rebuilders do.
>> So dump your local (not so smart) auto-parts sources and go global, man.
>>
>> There are dozens and dozens of sources providing rebuilt Rochester "2-Jet"
>> (the 2G-series; 2GV, 2GC) carbs and parts. These carbs were used on
>> literally millions of GM-powered vehicles from 1955 - 1978, common as dirt,
>> really!
>> Remember the '55 Chevy which introduced the world to the small block V-8?
>> Or how about the Tri-Power Pontiac GTO? They can't rebuild them without
>> having a reliable source for new floats, duh! So you just have to get
>> smart, that's all.
>>
>> Do a google search on Rochester 2 GC (or Rochester 2-Jet) and you'll find
>> what you need. The internet is indeed, your friend!
>>
>> It took me about 30 seconds to find (I would hate to make a living doing
>> nothing but google searches for people):
>>
>> http://www.carburetor.ca/carbs/floats/f10.htm
>>
>> Also: http://www.carburetor.ca/carbs/tech/Rochester/TwoJet-index.html
>>
>> Just order an "F10" float and be done with it.
>>
>> There are probably many other sources, as well, so have at it. (And BTW, the
>> fuel gauge and sender is all very common, off-the-shelf, "industry standard"
>> (240-33 ohm) Stewart-Warner stuff.
>>
>> Nothing special about the FUEL GAUGE wiring, sender or gauge (small 18 GA
>> ORANGE was originally used, as very little current is passed from sender to
>> gauge.)
>> See my website http://hhscott.com/evinrude/images/wiring/68_v6_ALL_WIRE.jpg
>> If you reading an OMC factory wiring diagram is helpful.
>>
>>
>> Lee
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 20, 2009, at 4:02 PM, Justin DeSantis wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I just pulled the carb off it. Turns out it may not be my fuel
>>> gauge. My float was completely full of gas again. I sealed up at least
>>> 5 holes the other day when I rebuilt it, and now there's more. And it
>>> looks like it's so old and fragile that no matter how much I patch it
>>> up, it's going to keep leaking. I don't want to patch it anymore and
>>> risk being stranded in the river again.
>>>
>>> So here's the problem, according to the auto parts store, the float is
>>> no longer available. So what can I do? Is there another float that
>>> will match up? Anyone have a fix for the original one? I need to find
>>> a way to get a float in there. My fuel gauge may still be A problem,
>>> but it isn't THE problem.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Doug Julien <dfjulien@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi All:
>>>>
>>>> I have a spare fuel/ammeter gauge from a '69 Sportsman 120 if any of you
>>>> determine that the gauge itself is the problem. Shipping is $10.35 max and
>>>> probably less. Only proviso is that you offer it to someone else on this
>>>> list if it doesn't fix your problem. See photo!
>>>>
>>>> -Doug Julien
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 9/20/09, BLDFW <bldfw@...> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From: BLDFW <bldfw@...>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Carb and fuel gauge
>>>>> To: bchowk@..., "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and
>>>>> 70's" <omc-boats@...>
>>>>> Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 12:20 PM
>>>>> Hmmm.... Mine has the
>>>>> original pink wire that runs to the gauge. It
>>>>> doesn't appear to be a heavy gauge. After I pulled
>>>>> the tank and cleaned it out, I checked the fuel
>>>>> sending unit which appeared to be working fine. I
>>>>> did have to replace the barrel float. I'd pull the
>>>>> sending unit, hook it up to power and the move the arm up
>>>>> and down to check it's functionality and what it reads
>>>>> on the gauge. If it's working, and the full up and
>>>>> down sweep registers accordingly on the gauge, it's
>>>>> possible the arm just needs to be bent a bit to make more
>>>>> accurate when sitting in the tank.
>>>>>
>>>>> In any case, filling up each time is not a bad idea
>>>>> though probably not good at the end of the season when you
>>>>> find you have a near full tank that likely will sit over the
>>>>> winter. I'm keeping mine low at the moment and
>>>>> will siphon any residual out when I put the boat up for
>>>>> good.....Of course that assumes I ever get mine running
>>>>> properly this season! sigh......
>>>>>
>>>>> I did spend the morning attaching and adjusting my new
>>>>> bimini top....and enjoying it's shade while sitting in
>>>>> the driveway behind the wheel.....fantasizing about zooming
>>>>> across the lake!
>>>>>
>>>>> Minor update....after all my charging problems, I
>>>>> finally figured out that my original voltage regulator so no
>>>>> need for a new one....the problem was that my
>>>>> brand new alternator was not charging. Apparently it
>>>>> was never charging from the get go. Can't prove
>>>>> it. I sent it back a week ago Friday and now
>>>>> waiting to see if they will exchange it or tell me I
>>>>> broke it and will have to pay to get it back and in working
>>>>> order.
>>>>>
>>>>> Always something.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Bill
>>>>> Dallas, TX
>>>>> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC Sterndrive
>>>>> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --- On Sun, 9/20/09, BC Howk
>>>>> <bchowk@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Carb and fuel gauge
>>>>> To: omc-boats@...
>>>>> Date: Sunday, September 20, 2009, 11:17 AM
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have the exact same issue, in my case I believe the
>>>>> wire to the sender is too small (it is CLEARLY not factory
>>>>> wiring), I bought one of those universal senders and been
>>>>> looking around on the internet for fuel gauge calibration
>>>>> techniques (I REALLY want to keep my factory gauge)but have
>>>>> not yet really focused in on fixing the problem and
>>>>> installing the new sender.....
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tend to fill it up anytime I'm heading out,
>>>>> wether it needs it or not
>>>>>
>>>>> I'll be interested in what any of ya'll have
>>>>> done as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> B.C.
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