It mounted up nice and neat I'm very happy with it. I do have the aluminum collars but dont know what the gasket was made out of as mine didn't have one. I plan on using some high temp silicone to make a bed under the lens then Ill tighten it down after it sets up. I made a second lens because I chipped a chunk outta the screw socket on the bottom end of the first one when I was drilling the holes for the screws. Unfortunately I let the second one sit in the mold too long and although the lens is good it broke the mold when I took it out. $30 down the tubes. I was hopping to get 4 or 5 lenses out of it before it died. I will be trying this again in the future. I want spair lenses for the bow and rear as well as the odd shaped all around light. ----- Original Message -----
> That looks pretty good. I have one of those clear lenses on the back
> of the
> Rogue. It has a crack in similar place but not yet busted in two. The
> Rogue
> has identical shaped lenses in red and green in the bow for running
> lights.
> I may be exploring your option sooner than later. Manufacturing in USA
> is on
> the wane so I guess we will learn to be creative. I like that kinda
> stuff
> anyway. You know those lenses had a gasket and little aluminum collars
> to
> keep the screws out a certain distance. At least that is on the Rogue.
> Tom
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> Date: Sat, 14 Jul 2012 16:47:49 +0000 (UTC)
> From: hoggar@...
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> I said Id post up pictures of the Stern Lens I was making so here it
> is.
> http://omcboats.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&p=1459#p1459 I really
> think this
> would work if you used something like Lab-Metal
> http://www.neverseezproducts.com/labmetal.htm This stuff can be
> polished or
> even powder-coated. Here is a link to a guy who thinned it and used it
> as a
> paint. http://chrismarsh-land.itgo.com/LabMetal.html Hope this helps !
> Ron
> "Hoggar" Hansen. ----- Original Message -----
> > Well I phoned the flag manufacturer (Denbro ? Toledo) and my phone
> > numbers are permanently enshrined on their answering machine. Maybe
> > they?ll call (cue in Joe Walsh). Will call back next week. No luck -
> > will go to plan B. That?s another supplier in Toledo. The vinyl tops
> > were done in Toledo. Not the mooring covers. Tom K.
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> Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 08:50:17 -0700
> From: sv <svsv8002@...>
> To: <tklauber@...>
> Cc: omc-boats@...
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] flag emblems
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> I had pretty good luck last summer molding a couple little plastic
> parts with stuff i bought at a local plastics place called "Tap
> Plastics". I think they're a chain. Anyway, you have to have an
> original to make the mold from. That's usually the problem. But
> if you do, then it works pretty well. You make a latex mold.
> Then when that's done, you pour in your two-part plastic goo.
> Then when dry, you paint it as needed. Overall might cost about
> $75-$100 in supplies
> btw - after 3-4 summers of no use while tweaking it, happy to say my
> boat starts right up and i have been using a lot so far this summer.
> Took an hour long full throttle ride yesterday and the temp held right
> at 160. No issues there anymore. Even pulled a tube around last
> week. Having some hot start issues, but nothing big. Seems to
> act like its flooded at times. Otherwise, glad to get some solid use
> out of it finally!
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 5:58 PM, <tklauber@...> wrote:
> > I have looked at this problem off and on several years and the ideal
> > would be to find the original manufacturer who is probably out of
> > business now. I suspect they were injection molded and the dies may
> > still be around. They could be remade no problem - maybe costly.
> > Then deciding the correct plastic then how to silkscreen the correct
> > color to the part. Infringement on OMC or whoever property - I don't
> > know the answer to that. Would hate to make 3000 of these and then
> > get sued - paranoid? The final product hopefully would last at least
> > 10 years. Maybe upgrade the product - make them out of aluminum like
> > the Evinrude insignia next to it. Gotta think of the people that
> > will inherit the boat. That?s what makes this hobby so interesting.
> > Looked into the shapeways.com and not sure what they are doing there
> > or the materials they are using. Might work but would like to pursue
> > injection molding first.
> > As to the rub rail aluminum extrusion that will have to wait unless
> > I get lucky. Thinking of ways to refurbish what is there - a little
> > paint and buffing does a lot. Tom
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> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. OMC-Boats - custom plastic molding (Micah Donahue)
> > 2. Re: Tilt Motor problem conclusion (Paul Hamilton)
> > 3. Stalling from low idle (Paul Hamilton)
> > 4. Re: Tilt Motor problem conclusion (William Howk)
> > 5. (no subject) (d m)
> > 6. Evinrude Rub Rail (Blue) (d m)
> > 7. Re: (no subject) (Paul Hamilton)
> >
> >
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> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 15:21:36 -0400
> > From: Micah Donahue <mdonahue@...>
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Subject: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats - custom plastic molding
> > Message-ID: <1C0C0285-9111-40C3-90CA-0A872F8F96FC@...>
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> >
> > Tom -- Re: the emblems, I would definitely try shapeways.com. You
> > can 3D print almost anything you can scan or CAD up, in a variety of
> > "materials."
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > -Micah
> > ..................................................................
> > Micah Donahue
> > principal/contact strategy director
> > M E C H A N I C A
> > V 978-499-7871 x107
> > M 978-491-7242
> > mdonahue@...
> > LinkedIn: micahdonahue
> > ..................................................................
> >>
> >> From: <tklauber@...>
> >> Date: July 8, 2012 10:16:15 PM EDT
> >> To: <omc-boats@...>
> >> Subject: [OMC-Boats] tilt motor
> >>
> >>
> >> The tilt motor in the 69 Rogue and Sportsman is a Prestolite
> >> ETK-402. It is covered well in the Seloc manual. You see them cheap
> >> and often on ebay. Make sure you get one from a reputable seller. I
> >> have seen some good and bad ones one ebay. New ones can be had
> >> online for around $100 and on up.
> >>
> >> Anybody in the plastic molding business out there? The insignia on
> >> the boat sides are pretty much toast and I NEVER see them on ebay.
> >> You know what I am talking about. Those red and blue flags next to
> >> the Evinrude inscription. Mine on the Rogue and Sportsman are
> >> cracked and shriveled up. Wonder what it would take to get them
> >> made. They are complicated having a plastic base with 4 plastic
> >> prongs held in place with a clip and a little rubber washer. The
> >> color comes from paint or silk screen I think. Any body out there
> >> with any ideas on that? Also need to find an aluminum extruder to
> >> remanufacture the rub rails. That will be tough as they come in one
> >> piece per side meaning they would be very long and hard to ship if
> >> available. Just a wild thought. Tom
> >>
> >>
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> > Message: 2
> > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 17:51:23 -0500
> > From: Paul Hamilton <prhamilt@...>
> > To: BLDFW <bldfw@...>
> > Cc: OMC Boats <omc-boats@...>
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt Motor problem conclusion
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> > It may have been obvious to others but I didn't remove the cowling
> > when I
> > first made the attempt to remove the tilt motor. Virtually
> > impossible.
> > With the cowling off, it's still tedious but reaching under the
> > outdrive
> > and over to the bolt made it possible. I didn't have a ratcheting
> > open
> > end wrench so I needed a third hand to help release/position the
> > wrench at
> > times. I will have a ratcheting wrench when I install the rebuilt
> > unit,
> > hopefully later this week.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, BLDFW <bldfw@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Well..... anyone have the pleasure of "trying" to remove the tilt
> >> motor?
> >> That lower bolt is a killer! Will prob need to get a universal
> >> joint for
> >> my 1/4 ratchet to get in there!
> >>
> >> Always somethin'!
> >>
> >> -Bill
> >> Cedar Creek Lake, TX
> >> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC Sterndrive
> >> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
> >>
> >> *From:* BLDFW <bldfw@...>
> >> *To:* OMC Boats <omc-boats@...>
> >> *Sent:* Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:51 AM
> >> *Subject:* Tilt Motor problem conclusion
> >>
> >> Had a boating buddy come out to the lake yesterday to see what we
> >> could
> >> figure out on my tilt motor problem. We picked up a new Multi
> >> Meter at
> >> Lowes and set about testing all of the circuits. There was power
> >> right
> >> down to the motor plug but no action from the motor itself even
> >> when we
> >> bypassed everything running a wire direct from the battery to the
> >> plug
> >> itself. Still nothing. We came to the logical conclusion the
> >> motor just
> >> quit working. Bad timing (when is it ever good timing??).
> >> Soooo..... we
> >> missed boating on my Explorer this weekend. Bummer.
> >>
> >> I went on eBay and looked up tilt motors with the original part
> >> number
> >> (380361) and found this (one of many):
> >>
> >>
> >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OMC-Tilt-Trim-Motor-380361-382138-382220-1965-/360405308269?hash=item53e9d4936d&item=360405308269&pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&vxp=mtr
> >>
> >> In looking at the pics, it's exactly what is in the boat now so it
> >> obviously the motor is not original. The end cap of the motor has
> >> the same
> >> smooth contours as the one in the pics and vice-versa. That would
> >> explain
> >> the missing hand wheel. Out of curiosity, I checked eBay for a
> >> hand wheel
> >> and surprisingly found one. There would have to be a shaft coming
> >> out the
> >> end of the motor to attach the wheel to. If my motor were original
> >> with
> >> the hand wheel, I'd have had it rebuilt just to keep a means of
> >> manually
> >> raising or lowering the outdrive.
> >>
> >> Oh well, you make due with what you have!
> >>
> >> -Bill
> >> Cedar Creek Lake, TX
> >> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC Sterndrive
> >> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 17:57:27 -0500
> > From: Paul Hamilton <prhamilt@...>
> > To: OMC Boats <omc-boats@...>
> > Subject: [OMC-Boats] Stalling from low idle
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> > My apologies to Lee Shuster for repeating this question from long
> > ago, but
> > I never resolved the issue and have lost his response to my initial
> > inquiry.
> >
> > My 66 Sportsman idles well at as low as 650 rpm or so but I have to
> > baby it
> > to the 1100 - 1200 range or it will stall out. If I try to go to
> > full
> > throttle below about 1500, it also stalls out. As I recall Lee
> > indicated
> > this was an easy fix. Thoughts?
> >
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> > Message: 4
> > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 16:02:27 -0700
> > From: William Howk <bchowk@...>
> > To: Paul Hamilton <prhamilt@...>
> > Cc: OMC Boats <omc-boats@...>
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt Motor problem conclusion
> > Message-ID:
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> >
> > Gentlemen,
> >
> > I feel your pain....cramped frustrating business getting that simple
> > motor
> > swapped...but if I can do it, so can you.
> >
> > good luck!
> > B.C.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 9, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Paul Hamilton <prhamilt@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> It may have been obvious to others but I didn't remove the cowling
> >> when I
> >> first made the attempt to remove the tilt motor. Virtually
> >> impossible.
> >> With the cowling off, it's still tedious but reaching under the
> >> outdrive
> >> and over to the bolt made it possible. I didn't have a ratcheting
> >> open
> >> end wrench so I needed a third hand to help release/position the
> >> wrench at
> >> times. I will have a ratcheting wrench when I install the rebuilt
> >> unit,
> >> hopefully later this week.
> >>
> >> Paul
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 11:36 AM, BLDFW <bldfw@...> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Well..... anyone have the pleasure of "trying" to remove the tilt
> >>> motor? That lower bolt is a killer! Will prob need to get a
> >>> universal
> >>> joint for my 1/4 ratchet to get in there!
> >>>
> >>> Always somethin'!
> >>>
> >>> -Bill
> >>> Cedar Creek Lake, TX
> >>> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC Sterndrive
> >>> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
> >>>
> >>> *From:* BLDFW <bldfw@...>
> >>> *To:* OMC Boats <omc-boats@...>
> >>> *Sent:* Sunday, July 8, 2012 9:51 AM
> >>> *Subject:* Tilt Motor problem conclusion
> >>>
> >>> Had a boating buddy come out to the lake yesterday to see what we
> >>> could figure out on my tilt motor problem. We picked up a new
> >>> Multi Meter
> >>> at Lowes and set about testing all of the circuits. There was
> >>> power right
> >>> down to the motor plug but no action from the motor itself even
> >>> when we
> >>> bypassed everything running a wire direct from the battery to the
> >>> plug
> >>> itself. Still nothing. We came to the logical conclusion the
> >>> motor just
> >>> quit working. Bad timing (when is it ever good timing??).
> >>> Soooo..... we
> >>> missed boating on my Explorer this weekend. Bummer.
> >>>
> >>> I went on eBay and looked up tilt motors with the original part
> >>> number
> >>> (380361) and found this (one of many):
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-OMC-Tilt-Trim-Motor-380361-382138-382220-1965-/360405308269?hash=item53e9d4936d&item=360405308269&pt=Boat_Parts_Accessories_Gear&vxp=mtr
> >>>
> >>> In looking at the pics, it's exactly what is in the boat now so it
> >>> obviously the motor is not original. The end cap of the motor has
> >>> the same
> >>> smooth contours as the one in the pics and vice-versa. That would
> >>> explain
> >>> the missing hand wheel. Out of curiosity, I checked eBay for a
> >>> hand wheel
> >>> and surprisingly found one. There would have to be a shaft coming
> >>> out the
> >>> end of the motor to attach the wheel to. If my motor were
> >>> original with
> >>> the hand wheel, I'd have had it rebuilt just to keep a means of
> >>> manually
> >>> raising or lowering the outdrive.
> >>>
> >>> Oh well, you make due with what you have!
> >>>
> >>> -Bill
> >>> Cedar Creek Lake, TX
> >>> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC Sterndrive
> >>> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>
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> > Message: 5
> > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 18:37:58 -0700
> > From: d m <warriors100@...>
> > To: <omc-boats@...>
> > Subject: [OMC-Boats] (no subject)
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> >
> > Hello;
> >
> > I also have been wanting to replace the OMC/Evinrude Emblems on my
> > 67 Sportsman. Mine are in the same shape as Tom described.
> > (I also want to replace the OMC decal which is on the top of my omc
> > stern drive unit because my decal is completely faded out.)
> >
> > My thought earlier this year was to get some modeling clay and press
> > it over the red and blue flag emblems.
> > Then fill in the flag impressions with something that squeezes out
> > of a tube and dries hard. maybe something like a two part epoxy or
> > gasket sealer which dries hard, anythin just something that dries
> > hard.
> > Then take my dremel tool and shave down the excess material and
> > paint each flag accordingly.
> >
> > My second thought was to just replace the 3-D emblems with 2
> > dimensianal flag decals (one red and the other blue).
> >
> > But after reading Micahs post I think I check into that method
> > first.
> >
> > Guess my final decision for which way to replace will depend on
> > cost. (Don't have as full of a wallet as I had ten years ago.)
> >
> >
> > On another note; Replacement Evinrude trailer decals are now
> > available on Ebay. I purchased 2 decals last year and they were
> > excellent quality replacements. I don't know about anyone else but
> > I like to keep my Evinrude trailer looking good also.
> >
> >
> > D.M.
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> > Message: 6
> > Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2012 18:49:27 -0700
> > From: d m <warriors100@...>
> > To: <omc-boats@...>
> > Subject: [OMC-Boats] Evinrude Rub Rail (Blue)
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> >
> >
> >
> > What is the going rate for vintage Evinrude Rub Rail (Blue Color for
> > 67 sportsman)?
> >
> > Have we ever discussed this issue or resolved the shortage problem?
> >
> > I know of a Evinrude boat that would make a good parts boat.
> > I would like to buy the whole boat for my myself,
> > But the cost of the parts boat is more than I want to spend.
> >
> > The Rub Blue rub rail on this boat looks to be in good condition.
> >
> > What would someone else be willing to pay for this Blue Rub Rail?
> >
> >
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> > Message: 7
> > Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2012 00:09:50 -0500
> > From: Paul Hamilton <prhamilt@...>
> > To: d m <warriors100@...>
> > Cc: omc-boats@...
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] (no subject)
> > Message-ID:
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> > I may have a source that could do the cad work and use 3d resin
> > printer to
> > make decent replicas though the surface might not be perfectly
> > smooth - I
> > will check into it but it may take awhile. If it works out they
> > would be
> > reasonable.
> > On Jul 9, 2012 6:39 PM, "d m" <warriors100@...> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hello;
> >>
> >> I also have been wanting to replace the OMC/Evinrude Emblems on my
> >> 67
> >> Sportsman. Mine are in the same shape as Tom described.
> >> (I also want to replace the OMC decal which is on the top of my omc
> >> stern
> >> drive unit because my decal is completely faded out.)
> >>
> >> My thought earlier this year was to get some modeling clay and
> >> press it
> >> over the red and blue flag emblems.
> >> Then fill in the flag impressions with something that squeezes out
> >> of a
> >> tube and dries hard. maybe something like a two part epoxy or
> >> gasket sealer
> >> which dries hard, anythin just something that dries hard.
> >> Then take my dremel tool and shave down the excess material and
> >> paint each
> >> flag accordingly.
> >>
> >> My second thought was to just replace the 3-D emblems with 2
> >> dimensianal
> >> flag decals (one red and the other blue).
> >>
> >> But after reading Micahs post I think I check into that method
> >> first.
> >>
> >> Guess my final decision for which way to replace will depend on
> >> cost. (Don't have as full of a wallet as I had ten years ago.)
> >>
> >>
> >> On another note; Replacement Evinrude trailer decals are now
> >> available on Ebay. I purchased 2 decals last year and they were
> >> excellent quality replacements. I don't know about anyone else but
> >> I like
> >> to keep my Evinrude trailer looking good also.
> >>
> >>
> >> D.M.
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
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