Re: [omc-boats] omc

Ryan

Just verify (by the casting numbers) that "what you were told" is accurate.
If your 231 is indeed an 83-84 model, then it is an even-fire crankshaft.
There is no significant difference in horsepower based on even-fire or
odd-fire crankshafts.

Sorry if I confused you, What I meant by type is this:

Type A = 225 (3.7L) odd-fire original OMC/BUICK/Jeep V6
Type B = 231 (3.8L) odd-fire 74-75 BUICK V6
Type C = 231 (3.8L) even-fire 76-up BUICK V6
Type D = 229 (3.8L) even-fire 78-up OMC/Chevy V6

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ryan" <kmoore12@...>
To: <omc-boats@...>
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 6:54 AM
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] omc

> IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO DETERMINE THE TYPE/YEAR OF your hand-me-down
> 231 <--- I was told it come out of a 83-84 Buick Regal. What do you mean
> by type? Do you think this engine is worth storing just in case mine goes
> out? Also, would there be any noticeable difference in horsepower?
> thanks,
> Ryan
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> From: <lib1@...>
> To: <omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] omc
>
>
>> All Evinrude, Johnson and OMC boats were originally equipped with the
>> odd-fire Buick (then Jeep) 225 (3.7 L) V6. Later on OMC began using the
>> 229 (3.8L) Chevy V6 with the redesigned 1978-up 400/800-Series Stringer.
>> These are easy to identify as the Chevy V6 looks like a sawed-off
>> small-block V8, with it's rear mounted vertical distributor. (Buick's are
>> always mounted at the front and at an angle).
>>
>> This 225 CID 150-155 hp OMC engine was built by GM-Buick from 1964 to
>> 1967, then sold and built by Kaiser (Jeep) from 1967 to 1972.
>>
>> When the gas-crisis of the mid seventies hit Buick bought the tooling
>> back from Jeep (as they had been acquired by American Motors, who was
>> eager to supply engines).
>> The early 74-75 231 (3.8L) V6 Buick's are odd-fire, but then Buick
>> changed the crank (which some claim weaken it in the process) to an
>> even-fire design, in mid 1977.
>>
>> IT IS IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO DETERMINE THE TYPE/YEAR OF your hand-me-down
>> 231 engine. From an parts interchange standpoint (225 vs 231), the
>> distributors are different, the intake manifolds are different. I'm
>> fairly certain than you can move the original OMC (odd-fire) exhaust
>> manifolds over to the 231, you might need to do some very minor port
>> matching. You can verrify this by comapring the exhaust manifold gaskets
>> of the 225 vs 231.
>>
>> You can still get the 225 parts at NAPA, just ask for 65-66 Buick Special
>> V6 or 67-68 Jeep "Dauntless" V6.
>>
>> You can read more than you'll ever want to know on the Buick engines at:
>> http://hhscott.com/evinrude/buick_v6.htm
>>
>> Lee Shuster
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Ryan" <kmoore12@...>
>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:37 AM
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] omc
>>
>>
>>>I do know the Sportsman is the Buick 225ci V6 that was also used in the
>>>Jeeps. I have no idea about the Reveler. This guy I work with just give
>>>me a Buick 231ci engine with a engine stand too. If this really is a
>>>231ci would it fit?
>>> Ryan
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Paige" <windfallfarm@...>
>>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 8:22 AM
>>> Subject: [omc-boats] omc
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are the 69 Reveler and Sportsman 155 engine and lower unit compatable
>>>> for
>>>> parts? Are they both the Buick v6? Automotive oil filter? shame on
>>>> me, I have
>>>> not changed it since someone else did it for me, before it was
>>>> winterized last
>>>> year. I have a list of stuff to prepare to open it up next spring.
>>>> Mainly oil
>>>> filter, fuel filter and gasket for fuel filter. The rear facing
>>>> original seats
>>>> are ripped, used for a step for too many years. Any suggestions on
>>>> repair for a
>>>> rip down the center of the bottom cushion, do not want to replace then,
>>>> dont
>>>> think I'd find any in better condition in my neck of the woods. Not
>>>> much work
>>>> getting done on it under all that snow, I seem to wait until June to
>>>> get the
>>>> parts that are harder to find. My local marina gets annoyed with me
>>>> and my old
>>>> parts, they are always swamped with all the newer boats. Paige
>>>>
>>>> Andy Perakes wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I was in Sweden in mid-December several years back and witnessed first
>>>>> hand
>>>>> a full-blown sailboat race right smack dab in the middle of a
>>>>> full-blown
>>>>> snowstorm. As for me, I won't even ride my motorcycle in the rain
>>>>> because
>>>>> then I'd have a heck of a lot of cleaning to do!
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave: As I recall, you promised to send some pictures of your OMC
>>>>> hanging
>>>>> from your houseboat quite a while ago. Are you trying to keep us in
>>>>> suspense or is your camera broken? I'm still waiting!!!
>>>>>
>>>>> Andy
>>>>> '67 Reveler 155
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "David" <odin@...>
>>>>> To: <omc-boats@...>
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:14 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] off topic
>>>>>
>>>>> > I live in Minnesota and yet have the best of both worlds - I can
>>>>> > snowboard in the morning then go boating on the Mississippi river in
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > afternoon or evening - you have not boated until you take a cruise
>>>>> > in a
>>>>> > snowstorm! Of course I do that in my houseboat - the OMC is hung on
>>>>> > the
>>>>> > stern as a tender - and I can quickly drop it in and run it - all
>>>>> > you
>>>>> > need to do to winterize the V6 is to open the two block drains - I
>>>>> > usually leave them open and let the bilge pump take care of it -
>>>>> > that
>>>>> > way I don't forget to open them - by the way Paige, take a boarding
>>>>> > lesson - you will love it! I used to teach boarding and my well
>>>>> > worn
>>>>> > statement is "skiing is like calisthenics, and boarding is like
>>>>> > dancing!" Dave
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Paige wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > >I am bombarded with scam email, I forward every one to the Federal
>>>>> > >Trade
>>>>> > >Commission, you can also file a consumer complaint form with them
>>>>> > >online.
>>>>> > >I forward all scam emails to uce@...
>>>>> > >But, they just keep coming.....
>>>>> > >If you list anything online for sale, your email becomes an easy
>>>>> > >target.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >My wish list for Santa - a wicked cool slalom ski and my old boat
>>>>> > >runnin
>>>>> tip
>>>>> > >top next year.
>>>>> > >Summer is too short and a long way off.
>>>>> > >But, it is just about time to hit the slopes for some icy New
>>>>> > >England
>>>>> skiing.
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >Happy holidays to all.
>>>>> > >Paige in Maine
>>>>> > >
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