RE: [omc-boats] RE: omc-boats-digest V1 #586 from Ian Torrey on 2006-09-18 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: Ian Torrey <itorrey@...>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 10:31:22 -0400

Hi Dan,
I'm afraid I don't have the answer to your question, but I'm interested in
what you find out. I have a '67 Starflite 100s and have also had similar
problems, (except you see seem to have a better grasp on what all the little
black box thingies are than I do ;-) I know that some of the electronics are
looking pretty flaky on my system, and am debating whether to focus my
efforts on this motor or a slightly older Johnson 100 with points ignition,
that is currently on my Sweet 16. Seems that the Johnson might be the more
straightforward one, but I've never tried to get it running since I brought
it home. I look forward to any discussion on this topic, and just wanted to
let you know I see myself "in the same boat" as you.
Cheers,
Ian

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of Dan McCormack
Sent: September 16, 2006 6:15 PM
To: omc-boats-digest@...
Subject: [omc-boats] RE: omc-boats-digest V1 #586

I have a 1966 Evinrude 100 HP outboard on a Sweet 16. The charging system
is my problem. It consists of a stator, transistorized rectifier (fastened
to the rear of the powerhead between the cylinder banks) and 4 diodes (2
positive, 2 negative) which are also fastened to the upper powerhead. It
does not utilize the junction box inside the boat which older versions of
the V4 engines used. My question is this: can I convert this engine to the

older style junction box setup and eliminate the rectifier and diode set
currently on the engine. My reasoning tells me it should be entirely
possible. The need to do this is based on the fact that both the rectifier
and the diodes for this model are very difficult to come by and worse yet,
they are a ridiculous price. I have replaced the diode set once and it
worked for a while but I suspect the rectifier is NFG and ruined the new set

of diodes. In any case fellows, can I have your opinions ?

Thanks

Dan McCormack
mcmack@...

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>Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:33:36 -0500
>From: David <odin@...>
>Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
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>Jeff,
>I have never had to replace the housing - the cover plate, or ware plate
>does get grooved up and some say the water can pass back through he
>grooves - but I have had some super worn ones and never had a problem -
>I have not done one in a number of years now so I can't remember if it
>was on my OMC or some junky mercruiser drives I had - but on one of them
>I was able to just turn the plate over so the grooved part was outside
>and a nice smooth surface against the impeller. Dave
>
>jdood wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Gregory!
> > Often the ball gears are low enough to pick up water and kick it into
> > the air through that gap - not a big deal - also, a few models had the
> > spray hole on the inside by the ball gears and that could be where the
> > water is coming from if the boat is not low in the water - but the
> > usual steam hole is on the bottom of the starboard pinion cover.
> > Replacing the impeller is not a difficult job - and I would say one
> > rarely has to replace the housing - sometimes the cover plate gets
> > badly worn and should be replaced, but even that is not very often -
> > and you may find that the impeller is fine - not cracking or chewed up
> > anywhere - in which case I would leave well enough alone - or put in a
> > new one and keep the old as a spare. I am sure if by chance you do
> > need new parts some one in the group will have the numbers for you -
>Dave
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On mine, the impellor was literally in pieces. All the flappers had
> > broken and the broken pieces were spinning around in the housing with
> > it. the "expert" I took it to said the slightest surface damage on
> > the inside of the housing can cause the rubber to deteriorate fast on
> > the new impellor....it seemed to make sense, but who knows.....i
could've
> > been scammed a bit.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Gregory B. Fell wrote:
> >
> > I haven't had my 69 Sportsman 155 out this entire summer. Busy at
> > work and a lake down 14 ft (Texas drought) to blame. Now with the
> > cooler fall weather upon me, I'd like to do a few things in my
> > driveway. This discussion regarding the tell-tale stream of water
> > raises a question of my own.
> >
> >
> >
> > 1. Near the end of the season last year, I noticed, while at
> > idle, water was spraying up from the stern drive onto the engine
> > cover. I didn't have time to do much more than lay over the back and
> > try to see where it was coming from. It appeared to be coming from a
> > location near the ball gears and spraying (not a stream) up through
> > the gap. Any ideas?
> >
> >
> >
> > 2. I'd like to replace the impeller this winter. I believe
> > the general consensus this summer has been to replace the housing as
> > well. I've purchased the Selog manual and am ready to go. What I
> > would appreciate (for my own peace of mind) is advice regarding the
> > correct part numbers and where you would recommend I purchase them.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> >
> >
> > Gregory B. Fell
> >
> > The Fell Law Firm
> >
> > 3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700
> >
> > Dallas, Texas 75219
> >
> > 972-488-8177
> >
> > 214-219-4218 - fax
> >
> > gfell@... <mailto:gfell@...>
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: owner-omc-boats@...
> > <mailto:owner-omc-boats@...>
> > [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of jdood
> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:37 PM
> > To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
> > Subject: RE: [omc-boats] (no subject)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Jeff, my advise to you is to ask any mechanic you propose to use if
> > there is a water stream out of the sterndrive - if they say no - run
> > away from them as fast and as far as you can!
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah, agreed. But this guy seems legit, has a big shop, boats only,
> > OMC certified, etc.
> >
> >
> >
> > Second, always feel the exhaust manifolds - if water is circulating
> > they will be warm, not hot - and you are ok - if hot, you are not ok.
> >
> >
> >
> > That is one I will definitely try.....
> >
> >
> >
> > As to the power loss - the first thing to check is the compression -
> > if any cylinder is low, say less than 120 psi, you could well have a
> > cracked head - the most common crack is between the intake and exhaust
> > valves which are very close together and the crack is usually very
> > thin and hard to see - usually with this type of crack the engine will
> > run fine when cold and then lose power as soon as it heats up - so it
> > is best to check compression when it is hot. Dave
> >
> >
> >
> > And if it's a cracked head, that spells new engine, right? Not
> > fixable, right? (gulp).
> >
> >
> >
> > jdood wrote:
> >
> >
> > Ideal timing for this topic. I am dealing with my hot light coming on
> > frequently. I have a 155hp Deluxe. I am on my 2nd mechanic now,
> > problem still not solved. Going for a water test tomorrow with him.
> > Just paid a bundle to have a new impeller and impeller housing
> > replaced, and it definitely needed to be done. I just didn't want to
> > attempt it myself - not still during the season atleast. So now I
> > have a nice new impeller, and supposedly a new engine water pump too
> > (according to the 1st mechanic). So in theory, water should be
> > flowing through the engine just fine. But the hot light still is
> > coming on, and worse, I have barely any HP at full throttle. It tops
> > out at about 10 mph. Not good, I know. For some stupid reason, the
> > temp light was wired by some previous owner so It only comes on when
> > the instrument lights are turned on. And of course I only discovered
> > that after several times out. Most of those times it ran great, just
> > wouldn't start back up when hot. But the past 3 times it has had
> > this throttle problem. I am just hoping nothing has been serious
> > damaged. Anyway - will hopefully know more tomorrow after the water
> > test. But my main question is this:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have always had outboards, all of which had a nice easy to see tell
> > tale stream of water shooting out the side when things were working
> > right. I asked 2 boat mechanics on separate occasions if stern drives
> > were supposed to have the same thing, both said no - that outboards
> > do, but i/o's don't. But this post says otherwise. So do they or
> > don't they? And if not, why not? How are you supposed to tell if
> > water is circulating properly?
> >
> >
> >
> > jeff
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-omc-boats@...
> > <mailto:owner-omc-boats@...>
> > [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of David
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:20 PM
> > To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
> > Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
> >
> >
> >
> > Curt,
> > If the temp light is on the first thing to check is the stern drive
> > while it is running - on the starboard side of the drive you should
> > see a steady stream of water shooting out - if not shut her down -
> > that would mean the impeller is not pumping at all. Next, if water is
> > coming out open the engine cover and feel the exhaust manifolds - they
> > should be cool enough to hold your hand on - if not and they feel
> > really hot when the light is on, then shut her down - it would likely
> > be the engine water pump, or the thermostat that needs attention. As
> > to wintering, and I know people will flip at this, but I have seven
> > OMC's and have had them for years and have always just opened the
> > petcocks on each side of the block - never bothered taking off the
> > water pump hoses etc. - just make sure the boat is realatively level
> > and the block will drain down and you will not have any freezing
> > problems. I keep an OMC V6 Sportsman on the davits on the back of my
> > houseboat - and I have used it at 10 below zero - when I lift it back
> > out of the water all I do is open those two petcocks - the only real
> > problem I have is remembering to close them when I go for a ride - of
> > course eventually warm water will creep up to my feet - a sure, but
> > gentle reminder! Dave
> >
> > Curt Broek wrote:
> >
> >
> >Group,
> >
> >I am a relatively new owner. I have a Sportsman 155 acquired in a cabin
> >
> >purchase. Its in terrific condition. I'll post pics on the other site
> >
> >sometime soon.. I have a relatively basic question. The temp light goes

>on
> >
> >after a few minutes in the water. Do I need to replace the water pump
>and
> >
> >if so, do I need to know anything special to accomplish that. Where do I
> >
> >get parts? Also, I need to winterize it soon. Could anyone give me some
> >
> >pointers there too?
> >
> >Much appreciated,
> >
> >Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >On 9/13/06 2:35 PM, "Curt Broek" <cabroek@...>
><mailto:cabroek@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>David,
> >>
> >>Here are my vitals:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Curt Broek
> >>
> >>3941 Greenview Dr.
> >>
> >>Urbandale, IA
> >>
> >>cabroek@... <mailto:cabroek@...>
> >>
> >>'68 Sportsman 155
> >>
> >>(in Hackensack, MN)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>I have had trouble getting emails to be sent when I reply. Let me know
>if
> >>
> >>you get this.
> >>
> >>Curt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 9/13/06 9:10 AM, "David" <odin@...> <mailto:odin@...>

>wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Ok, as all the members on the membership listing know, I have sent out
> >>>
> >>>an updated listing - but only to the listed members - if anyone out
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> >>>there has not gotten a listing, and should have, let me know - Also, if
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> >>>anyone out there has not sent me all the info to get on the list, I am
> >>>
> >>>ready to add anyone at anytime - just let me know the following:
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>Dave
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>Jeff, 
>I have never had to replace the housing - the cover plate, or ware
>plate does get grooved up and some say the water can pass back through
>he grooves - but I have had some super worn ones and never had a
>problem - I have not done one in a number of years now so I can't
>remember if it was on my OMC or some junky mercruiser drives I had -
>but on one of them I was able to just turn the plate over so the
>grooved part was outside and a nice smooth surface against the
>impeller. Dave 
> 
>jdood wrote: 
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> face="Verdana" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Hi Gregory! 
>Often the ball gears are low enough to pick up water and kick it into
>the air
>through that gap - not a big deal - also, a few models had the spray
>hole on
>the inside by the ball gears and that could be where the water is
>coming from
>if the boat is not low in the water - but the usual steam hole is on
>the bottom
>of the starboard pinion cover. Replacing the impeller is not a
>difficult
>job - and I would say one rarely has to replace the housing - sometimes
>the
>cover plate gets badly worn and should be replaced, but even that is
>not very
>often - and you may find that the impeller is fine - not cracking or
>chewed up
>anywhere - in which case I would leave well enough alone - or put in a
>new one
>and keep the old as a spare. I am sure if by chance you do need new
>parts some
>one in the group will have the numbers for you <font
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> <span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">On mine, the
>impellor was literally in
>pieces. All the flappers had broken
>and the broken pieces were spinning around in the housing with it.<span
> style=""> the "expert" I took it
>to said the slightest surface damage on the inside of the housing can
>cause the
>rubber to deteriorate fast on the new impellor....it seemed to make
>sense, but
>who knows.....i could've been scammed a
>bit.<o:p></o:p>
> <span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
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> 
>Gregory B. Fell wrote: 
> 
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>haven't had my 69 Sportsman 155 out this entire summer. Busy at
>work and a lake down 14 ft (<st1:State u4:st="on"><st1:place
>u4:st="on"></st1:place></st1:State><st1:State><st1:place>Texa
s</st1:place></st1:State>
>drought) to blame. Now with the cooler fall weather upon me, I'd
>like to do a few things in my driveway. This discussion regarding the
>tell-tale stream of water raises a question of my own.<o:p></o:p>
> <u1:p></u1:p>
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> -0.5in;"><font
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> style="font-size: 12pt;">1.
>Near the end of the season last year, I noticed, while at idle, water
>was
>spraying up from the stern drive onto the engine cover. I didn't
>have time to do much more than lay over the back and try to see where
>it was
>coming from. It appeared to be coming from a location near the ball
>gears
>and spraying (not a stream) up through the gap. Any
>ideas?<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
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> -0.5in;"><font
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> style="font-size: 12pt;">2.
>I'd like to replace the impeller this winter. I believe the general
>consensus this summer has been to replace the housing as well. I've
>purchased the Selog manual and am ready to go. What I would appreciate
>(for my own peace of mind) is advice regarding the correct part numbers
>and
>where you would recommend I purchase
>them.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3">12pt;"><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3">12pt;">Thanks.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
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> <font
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> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">Gregory B.
>Fell<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
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> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">The Fell Law
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>u4:st="on"><st1:Street><st1:address><font
> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">3300 Oak Lawn Avenue,
>Suite
>700</st1:address></st1:Street><u1:p></u1:p></st1
:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p>
> <st1:place
>u4:st="on"><st1:City
> u4:st="on"><st1:place><st1:City> face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0,
>160);">Dallas</st1:City></st1:place><
font
> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman"><span
> style="color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">, <st1:State
>u4:st="on"></st1:State><st1:State><fo
nt
> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman"><span
> style="color: rgb(0, 0,
>160);">Texas</st1:State></st1:City><f
ont
> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman"><span
> style="color: rgb(0, 0, 160);"> <st1:PostalCode
>u4:st="on"></st1:PostalCode><st1:PostalCode><str
ong> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman"><span
> style="color: rgb(0, 0,
>160);">75219</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><u1:p><
/u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> <font
> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0,
>160);">972-488-8177<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> <font
> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">214-219-4218 -
>fax<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> <font
> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);"><a
>
>href="mailto:gfell@...">gfell@...</a>
<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> </div>
> <div>
> <div style="margin-left: 0.5in;">
> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: center;"
> align="center"><span
> style="font-size: 12pt; color: windowtext;">
> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div>
> </div>
> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;
>font-weight: bold;">From:<font
> color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> <a
>
>href="mailto:owner-omc-boats@...">owner-omc-boats@...</a>
>[<a
>href="mailto:owner-omc-boats@...">mailto:owner-omc-boats@...
com</a>]
> On Behalf Of jdood 
> Sent:
><st1:date
> month="9" day="14" year="2006"> size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color:
>windowtext;">Thursday,
>September 14, 2006</st1:date> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
> <st1:time hour="13" minute="37"> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">1:37
>PM</st1:time><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> 
> To: <a
> href="mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</a> 
> Subject: RE:
>[omc-boats] (no
>subject)<o:p></o:p>
> </div>
> <u1:p></u1:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3">12pt;"><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3">Jeff,
>my advise to you is
>to ask any mechanic you propose to use if there is a water stream out
>of the
>sterndrive - if they say no - run away from them as fast and as far as
>you can!<o:p></o:p>
> <u1:p></u1:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Yeah,
>agreed. But this guy seems legit, has a big shop, boats only, OMC
>certified, etc.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3"> 
> 
>Second, always feel the exhaust manifolds - if water is circulating
>they will
>be warm, not hot - and you are ok - if hot, you are not ok.
><o:p></o:p>
> <u1:p></u1:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">That is
>one I will definitely try.....<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3">As to
>the power loss -
>the first thing to check is the compression - if any cylinder is low,
>say less
>than 120 psi, you could well have a cracked head - the most common
>crack is
>between the intake and exhaust valves which are very close together and
>the
>crack is usually very thin and hard to see - usually with this type of
>crack
>the engine will run fine when cold and then lose power as soon as it
>heats up -
>so it is best to check compression when it is hot.
>Dave<o:p></o:p>
> <u1:p></u1:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;"><u1:p> </u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">And if
>it's a cracked head, that spells new engine, right? Not fixable,
>right? (gulp). <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3"> 
> 
>jdood wrote: 
> 
> 
><o:p></o:p>
> <u1:p></u1:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><!--[if gte mso

>9]><xml>
> <u5:OfficeDocumentSettings>
> <u5:DoNotRelyOnCSS/>
> </u5:OfficeDocumentSettings>
></xml><![endif]-->Ideal
>timing for this topic. I am dealing with my hot
>light coming on frequently. I have a 155hp Deluxe. I am on my
>2nd mechanic now, problem still not solved. Going for a
>water
>test tomorrow with him. Just paid a bundle to have a new impeller
>and impeller housing replaced, and it definitely needed to be done. I
>just didn't want to attempt it myself - not still during the season
>atleast. So now I have a nice new impeller, and supposedly a new
>engine
>water pump too (according to the 1st mechanic). So in
>theory,
>water should be flowing through the engine just fine. But the hot
>light
>still is coming on, and worse, I have barely any HP at full throttle.
>It
>tops out at about 10 mph. Not good, I know. For some stupid reason,
>the temp light was wired by some previous owner so It only comes on
>when the
>instrument lights are turned on. And of course I only discovered that
>after several times out. Most of those times it ran great, just
>wouldn't start back up when hot. But the past 3 times
>it has had this throttle problem. I am just hoping nothing
>has been serious damaged. Anyway - will hopefully know more
>tomorrow after the water test. But my main question is
>this:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I have
>always had outboards, all of which had a nice easy to see tell tale
>stream of
>water shooting out the side when things were working right. I asked 2
>boat mechanics on separate occasions if stern drives were supposed to
>have the
>same thing, both said no - that outboards do, but i/o's
>don't. But this post says otherwise. So do they
>or don't they? And if not, why not? How are you
>supposed to tell if water is circulating
>properly?<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;">jeff<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> <u7:p></u7:p>
> face="Arial" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>navy;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color:
>windowtext;">-----Original
>Message----- 
> From: <a
>
>href="mailto:owner-omc-boats@...">owner-omc-boats@...</a>
>[<a
>href="mailto:owner-omc-boats@...">mailto:owner-omc-boats@...
com</a>]
> On Behalf Of David 
> Sent: <st1:date
> month="9" day="13" year="2006"
>u4:st="on"></st1:date><st1:date
> month="9" day="13" year="2006"> size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color:
>windowtext;">Wednesday,
>September 13, 2006</st1:date> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
><st1:time
> hour="13" minute="20" u4:st="on"></st1:time><st1:time
> hour="13" minute="20"><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">1:20
>PM</st1:time><span
> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> 
> To: <a
> href="mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</a> 
> Subject: Re:
>[omc-boats] (no
>subject)<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3">12pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
> face="Times New Roman" size="3">Curt, 
>If the temp light is on the first thing to check is the stern drive
>while it is
>running - on the starboard side of the drive you should see a steady
>stream of
>water shooting out - if not shut her down - that would mean the
>impeller is not
>pumping at all. Next, if water is coming out open the engine cover and
>feel the
>exhaust manifolds - they should be cool enough to hold your hand on -
>if not
>and they feel really hot when the light is on, then shut her down - it
>would
>likely be the engine water pump, or the thermostat that needs
>attention.
>As to wintering, and I know people will flip at this, but I have seven
>OMC's
>and have had them for years and have always just opened the petcocks on
>each
>side of the block - never bothered taking off the water pump hoses etc.
>- - just
>make sure the boat is realatively level and the block will drain down
>and you
>will not have any freezing problems. I keep an OMC V6 Sportsman on the
>davits
>on the back of my houseboat - and I have used it at 10 below zero -
>when I lift
>it back out of the water all I do is open those two petcocks - the only
>real
>problem I have is remembering to close them when I go for a ride - of
>course
>eventually warm water will creep up to my feet - a sure, but gentle
>reminder! Dave 
> 
>Curt Broek wrote: 
> 
> 
><o:p></o:p>
> <u1:p></u1:p>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;" wrap=""> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p></u7:p>Group,<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></fon
t></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">I am a relatively new owner. I
>have a Sportsman 155 acquired in a
>cabin<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">purchase. Its in terrific
>condition. I'll post pics on the other
>site<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">sometime soon.. I have a
>relatively basic question. The temp light goes
>on<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">after a few minutes in the
>water. Do I need to replace the water pump
>and<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">if so, do I need to know anything

>special to accomplish that. Where do
>I<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">get parts? Also, I need to
>winterize it soon. Could anyone give me
>some<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">pointers there
>too?<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">Much
>appreciated,<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">10pt;">Curt<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">On <st1:date month="9" day="13"
> year="2006" u4:st="on"></st1:date><st1:date month="9"
> day="13" year="2006">9/13/06</st1:date> 2:35 PM, "Curt Broek" <a
> href="mailto:cabroek@..."><cabroek@...></a>
>wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
> <u1:p></u1:p><u7:p></u7:p>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> size="2">
><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite">
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;" wrap=""> face="Courier New" size="2">David,
><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">Here are my
>vitals:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">Curt Broek
><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"><st1:Street u4:st="on"><st1:address
> u4:st="on"><st1:Street><st1:address> face="Courier New" size="2">3941 Greenview

>Dr</st1:address></st1:Street></st1:address></st1:Street>.<u1:
p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <u7:p></u7:p>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"><st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:City
> u4:st="on"><st1:place><st1:City> size="2">10pt;">Urbandale</st1:City></st1:place>, <st1:State
>
>u4:st="on"><st1:State>IA</st1:State></st1:State><u1:p></u1:p></st1:City></s
t1:place><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <u7:p></u7:p>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2"><a
>
>href="mailto:cabroek@...">cabroek@...</a><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u
1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">'68 Sportsman
>155<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">(in <st1:place
> u4:st="on"><st1:City
>u4:st="on"></st1:City></st1:place><st1:place><st1:City>Hacken
sack</st1:City></st1:place>,
><st1:State><st1:State
> u4:st="on">MN</st1:State></st1:State>)<o:p></o:p></pre>
> <u1:p></u1:p><u7:p></u7:p>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">I have had
>trouble getting emails to be sent when I reply. Let me know
>if<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">you get
>this.<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;">Curt<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">On <st1:date
> month="9" day="13" year="2006"
>u4:st="on"></st1:date><st1:date
> month="9" day="13" year="2006">9/13/06</st1:date> 9:10 AM, "David" <a
> href="mailto:odin@..."><odin@...></a>
>wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
> <u1:p></u1:p><u7:p></u7:p>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">
><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite">
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;" wrap=""> face="Courier New" size="2">Ok, as all the

>members on the membership listing know, I have sent
>out<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">an updated
>listing - but only to the listed members - if anyone
>out<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">there has not
>gotten a listing, and should have, let me know - Also,
>if<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">anyone out
>there has not sent me all the info to get on the list, I
>am<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">ready to add
>anyone at anytime - just let me know the
>following:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;">Name:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;">Address:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">Telephone
>#:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">Email
>Address:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">OMC Boats
>owned:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">And I'll get
>you on the list and get a copy of the list back to you.
>Dave<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;">-----<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">To get off
>this list send mail to <a
>
>href="mailto:omc-boats-unsubscribe@...">omc-boats-unsubscribe@...
mate.com</a><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">
><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> </blockquote>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;" wrap=""> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;"><u7:p> </u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">10pt;">-----<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">To get off
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mate.com</a><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"> face="Courier New" size="2">
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