Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)

Hey Glenn!
Wow, yeah, at $50 I would agree - where did you find that deal? Dave

Glenn comcast wrote:

> Dave,
>
> For what it costs I can't imagine tearing the drive down and not
> changing all three items. I did one this summer total for parts all in
> one kit was under $50.
>
> Glenn
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David <mailto:odin@...>
> To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>
> Jeff,
> I have never had to replace the housing - the cover plate, or ware
> plate does get grooved up and some say the water can pass back
> through he grooves - but I have had some super worn ones and never
> had a problem - I have not done one in a number of years now so I
> can't remember if it was on my OMC or some junky mercruiser drives
> I had - but on one of them I was able to just turn the plate over
> so the grooved part was outside and a nice smooth surface against
> the impeller. Dave
>
> jdood wrote:
>
>> Hi Gregory!
>> Often the ball gears are low enough to pick up water and kick it
>> into the air through that gap - not a big deal - also, a few
>> models had the spray hole on the inside by the ball gears and
>> that could be where the water is coming from if the boat is not
>> low in the water - but the usual steam hole is on the bottom of
>> the starboard pinion cover. Replacing the impeller is not a
>> difficult job - and I would say one rarely has to replace the
>> housing - sometimes the cover plate gets badly worn and should be
>> replaced, but even that is not very often - and you may find that
>> the impeller is fine - not cracking or chewed up anywhere - in
>> which case I would leave well enough alone - or put in a new one
>> and keep the old as a spare. I am sure if by chance you do need
>> new parts some one in the group will have the numbers for you – Dave
>>
>> On mine, the impellor was literally in pieces. All the flappers
>> had broken and the broken pieces were spinning around in the
>> housing with it. the “expert” I took it to said the slightest
>> surface damage on the inside of the housing can cause the rubber
>> to deteriorate fast on the new impellor….it seemed to make sense,
>> but who knows…..i could’ve been scammed a bit.
>>
>>
>>
>> Gregory B. Fell wrote:
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>> I haven’t had my 69 Sportsman 155 out this entire summer. Busy
>> at work and a lake down 14 ft (Texas drought) to blame. Now with
>> the cooler fall weather upon me, I’d like to do a few things in
>> my driveway. This discussion regarding the tell-tale stream of
>> water raises a question of my own.
>>
>> 1. Near the end of the season last year, I noticed, while
>> at idle, water was spraying up from the stern drive onto the
>> engine cover. I didn’t have time to do much more than lay over
>> the back and try to see where it was coming from. It appeared to
>> be coming from a location near the ball gears and spraying (not a
>> stream) up through the gap. Any ideas?
>>
>> 2. I’d like to replace the impeller this winter. I
>> believe the general consensus this summer has been to replace the
>> housing as well. I’ve purchased the Selog manual and am ready to
>> go. What I would appreciate (for my own peace of mind) is advice
>> regarding the correct part numbers and where you would recommend
>> I purchase them.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Gregory B. Fell
>>
>> The Fell Law Firm
>>
>> 3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700
>>
>> Dallas, Texas 75219
>>
>> 972-488-8177
>>
>> 214-219-4218 - fax
>>
>> gfell@... <mailto:gfell@...>
>>
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>> From: owner-omc-boats@...
>> <mailto:owner-omc-boats@...>
>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of jdood
>> Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:37 PM
>> To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
>> Subject: RE: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>>
>> Jeff, my advise to you is to ask any mechanic you propose to use
>> if there is a water stream out of the sterndrive - if they say no
>> - run away from them as fast and as far as you can!
>>
>> Yeah, agreed. But this guy seems legit, has a big shop, boats
>> only, OMC certified, etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> Second, always feel the exhaust manifolds - if water is
>> circulating they will be warm, not hot - and you are ok - if hot,
>> you are not ok.
>>
>> That is one I will definitely try…..
>>
>> As to the power loss - the first thing to check is the
>> compression - if any cylinder is low, say less than 120 psi, you
>> could well have a cracked head - the most common crack is between
>> the intake and exhaust valves which are very close together and
>> the crack is usually very thin and hard to see - usually with
>> this type of crack the engine will run fine when cold and then
>> lose power as soon as it heats up - so it is best to check
>> compression when it is hot. Dave
>>
>> And if it’s a cracked head, that spells new engine, right? Not
>> fixable, right? (gulp).
>>
>>
>>
>> jdood wrote:
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>> Ideal timing for this topic. I am dealing with my hot light
>> coming on frequently. I have a 155hp Deluxe. I am on my 2nd
>> mechanic now, problem still not solved. Going for a water test
>> tomorrow with him. Just paid a bundle to have a new impeller
>> and impeller housing replaced, and it definitely needed to be
>> done. I just didn’t want to attempt it myself – not still during
>> the season atleast. So now I have a nice new impeller, and
>> supposedly a new engine water pump too (according to the 1st
>> mechanic). So in theory, water should be flowing through the
>> engine just fine. But the hot light still is coming on, and
>> worse, I have barely any HP at full throttle. It tops out at
>> about 10 mph. Not good, I know. For some stupid reason, the
>> temp light was wired by some previous owner so It only comes on
>> when the instrument lights are turned on. And of course I only
>> discovered that after several times out. Most of those times it
>> ran great, just wouldn’t start back up when hot. But the past
>> 3 times it has had this throttle problem. I am just hoping
>> nothing has been serious damaged. Anyway – will hopefully know
>> more tomorrow after the water test. But my main question is this:
>>
>> I have always had outboards, all of which had a nice easy to see
>> tell tale stream of water shooting out the side when things were
>> working right. I asked 2 boat mechanics on separate occasions if
>> stern drives were supposed to have the same thing, both said no –
>> that outboards do, but i/o’s don’t. But this post says
>> otherwise. So do they or don’t they? And if not, why not? How
>> are you supposed to tell if water is circulating properly?
>>
>> jeff
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-omc-boats@...
>> <mailto:owner-omc-boats@...>
>> [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of David
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:20 PM
>> To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
>> Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>>
>> Curt,
>> If the temp light is on the first thing to check is the stern
>> drive while it is running - on the starboard side of the drive
>> you should see a steady stream of water shooting out - if not
>> shut her down - that would mean the impeller is not pumping at
>> all. Next, if water is coming out open the engine cover and feel
>> the exhaust manifolds - they should be cool enough to hold your
>> hand on - if not and they feel really hot when the light is on,
>> then shut her down - it would likely be the engine water pump, or
>> the thermostat that needs attention. As to wintering, and I know
>> people will flip at this, but I have seven OMC's and have had
>> them for years and have always just opened the petcocks on each
>> side of the block - never bothered taking off the water pump
>> hoses etc. - just make sure the boat is realatively level and the
>> block will drain down and you will not have any freezing
>> problems. I keep an OMC V6 Sportsman on the davits on the back of
>> my houseboat - and I have used it at 10 below zero - when I lift
>> it back out of the water all I do is open those two petcocks -
>> the only real problem I have is remembering to close them when I
>> go for a ride - of course eventually warm water will creep up to
>> my feet - a sure, but gentle reminder! Dave
>>
>> Curt Broek wrote:
>>
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>>Group,
>>
>>I am a relatively new owner. I have a Sportsman 155 acquired in a cabin
>>
>>purchase. Its in terrific condition. I'll post pics on the other site
>>
>>sometime soon.. I have a relatively basic question. The temp light goes on
>>
>>after a few minutes in the water. Do I need to replace the water pump and
>>
>>if so, do I need to know anything special to accomplish that. Where do I
>>
>>get parts? Also, I need to winterize it soon. Could anyone give me some
>>
>>pointers there too?
>>
>>Much appreciated,
>>
>>Curt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>On 9/13/06 2:35 PM, "Curt Broek" <cabroek@...> <mailto:cabroek@...> wrote:
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>>
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>>>David,
>>>
>>>Here are my vitals:
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>>>
>>>
>>>Curt Broek
>>>
>>>3941 Greenview Dr.
>>>
>>>Urbandale, IA
>>>
>>>cabroek@... <mailto:cabroek@...>
>>>
>>>'68 Sportsman 155
>>>
>>>(in Hackensack, MN)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>I have had trouble getting emails to be sent when I reply. Let me know if
>>>
>>>you get this.
>>>
>>>Curt
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On 9/13/06 9:10 AM, "David" <odin@...> <mailto:odin@...> wrote:
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