Re: [omc-boats] RE: omc-boats-digest V1 #586 from Dan McCormack on 2006-09-18 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: Dan McCormack <mcmack@...>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 16:39:04 +0000

Thanks Lee...

I have replaced the stator and when tested with a multimeter it does not
indicate being grounded/shorted out which makes me suspect the
transistorized rectifier. There may be a short in the wiring harness on
the powerhead in an area which is concealed - the wiring is definately quite
brittle. I can't find any material which tells me how to test the rectifier
conclusively and I'm not prepared to spend over $300 for a new one - it is
considered a "vintage" part by Bombardier and is priced accordingly. In any
event, I am going to go ahead and try the conversion I have described and
see what happens. The worst case is that if it doesn't work I have only
wasted some time and perhaps learned something.

Regards,

Dan McCormack

>From: <lib1@...>
>Reply-To: omc-boats@...
>To: <omc-boats@...>
>Subject: Re: [omc-boats] RE: omc-boats-digest V1 #586
>Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 06:15:09 -0600
>
>E/J/O introduced the alternator setup on the 1961 models some models of the
>1961 75 HP. Evinrude call it "Uni-Charger". Then the electric-shift 1962
>models onward featured alternators. There was also a DC generator but it
>was only rated at 15 amps rather than the alternator's 20-amps.
>
>You could probably lift a generator "kit" off of an older V-4 but that
>seems like two steps back. Can you figure out what might be causing the
>diodes to fail? Perhaps bad stator?
>
>I'm not familar enough with what changes were made in alternator regulators
>bewteen 1961-62 and 1966, but I do know the generator models had the
>external junction boxes.
>
>There's a lot of V-4 E/J/O outboard guys over on www.fiberglassics.com
>maybe you could post your ?? there.
>
>Lee Shuster
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan McCormack" <mcmack@...>
>To: <omc-boats-digest@...>
>Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2006 4:14 PM
>Subject: [omc-boats] RE: omc-boats-digest V1 #586
>
>
>>I have a 1966 Evinrude 100 HP outboard on a Sweet 16. The charging system
>>is my problem. It consists of a stator, transistorized rectifier
>>(fastened to the rear of the powerhead between the cylinder banks) and 4
>>diodes (2 positive, 2 negative) which are also fastened to the upper
>>powerhead. It does not utilize the junction box inside the boat which
>>older versions of the V4 engines used. My question is this: can I
>>convert this engine to the older style junction box setup and eliminate
>>the rectifier and diode set currently on the engine. My reasoning tells
>>me it should be entirely possible. The need to do this is based on the
>>fact that both the rectifier and the diodes for this model are very
>>difficult to come by and worse yet, they are a ridiculous price. I have
>>replaced the diode set once and it worked for a while but I suspect the
>>rectifier is NFG and ruined the new set of diodes. In any case fellows,
>>can I have your opinions ?
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>Dan McCormack
>>mcmack@...
>>
>>
>>>From: owner-omc-boats-digest@... (omc-boats-digest)
>>>Reply-To: omc-boats-digest@...
>>>To: omc-boats-digest@...
>>>Subject: omc-boats-digest V1 #586
>>>Date: Fri, 15 Sep 2006 12:00:10 -0400 (EDT)
>>>
>>>omc-boats-digest Friday, September 15 2006 Volume 01 : Number
>>>586
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2006 15:33:36 -0500
>>>From: David <odin@...>
>>>Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>>>
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>>>Jeff,
>>>I have never had to replace the housing - the cover plate, or ware plate
>>>does get grooved up and some say the water can pass back through he
>>>grooves - but I have had some super worn ones and never had a problem -
>>>I have not done one in a number of years now so I can't remember if it
>>>was on my OMC or some junky mercruiser drives I had - but on one of them
>>>I was able to just turn the plate over so the grooved part was outside
>>>and a nice smooth surface against the impeller. Dave
>>>
>>>jdood wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Hi Gregory!
>>> > Often the ball gears are low enough to pick up water and kick it into
>>> > the air through that gap - not a big deal - also, a few models had the
>>> > spray hole on the inside by the ball gears and that could be where the
>>> > water is coming from if the boat is not low in the water - but the
>>> > usual steam hole is on the bottom of the starboard pinion cover.
>>> > Replacing the impeller is not a difficult job - and I would say one
>>> > rarely has to replace the housing - sometimes the cover plate gets
>>> > badly worn and should be replaced, but even that is not very often -
>>> > and you may find that the impeller is fine - not cracking or chewed up
>>> > anywhere - in which case I would leave well enough alone - or put in a
>>> > new one and keep the old as a spare. I am sure if by chance you do
>>> > need new parts some one in the group will have the numbers for you -
>>>Dave
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On mine, the impellor was literally in pieces. All the flappers had
>>> > broken and the broken pieces were spinning around in the housing with
>>> > it. the "expert" I took it to said the slightest surface damage on
>>> > the inside of the housing can cause the rubber to deteriorate fast on
>>> > the new impellor..it seemed to make sense, but who knows...i could've
>>> > been scammed a bit.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gregory B. Fell wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I haven't had my 69 Sportsman 155 out this entire summer. Busy at
>>> > work and a lake down 14 ft (Texas drought) to blame. Now with the
>>> > cooler fall weather upon me, I'd like to do a few things in my
>>> > driveway. This discussion regarding the tell-tale stream of water
>>> > raises a question of my own.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 1. Near the end of the season last year, I noticed, while at
>>> > idle, water was spraying up from the stern drive onto the engine
>>> > cover. I didn't have time to do much more than lay over the back and
>>> > try to see where it was coming from. It appeared to be coming from a
>>> > location near the ball gears and spraying (not a stream) up through
>>> > the gap. Any ideas?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2. I'd like to replace the impeller this winter. I believe
>>> > the general consensus this summer has been to replace the housing as
>>> > well. I've purchased the Selog manual and am ready to go. What I
>>> > would appreciate (for my own peace of mind) is advice regarding the
>>> > correct part numbers and where you would recommend I purchase them.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Gregory B. Fell
>>> >
>>> > The Fell Law Firm
>>> >
>>> > 3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700
>>> >
>>> > Dallas, Texas 75219
>>> >
>>> > 972-488-8177
>>> >
>>> > 214-219-4218 - fax
>>> >
>>> > gfell@... <mailto:gfell@...>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> >
>>> > From: owner-omc-boats@...
>>> > <mailto:owner-omc-boats@...>
>>> > [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of jdood
>>> > Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:37 PM
>>> > To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
>>> > Subject: RE: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Jeff, my advise to you is to ask any mechanic you propose to use if
>>> > there is a water stream out of the sterndrive - if they say no - run
>>> > away from them as fast and as far as you can!
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Yeah, agreed. But this guy seems legit, has a big shop, boats only,
>>> > OMC certified, etc.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Second, always feel the exhaust manifolds - if water is circulating
>>> > they will be warm, not hot - and you are ok - if hot, you are not ok.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > That is one I will definitely try...
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > As to the power loss - the first thing to check is the compression -
>>> > if any cylinder is low, say less than 120 psi, you could well have a
>>> > cracked head - the most common crack is between the intake and exhaust
>>> > valves which are very close together and the crack is usually very
>>> > thin and hard to see - usually with this type of crack the engine will
>>> > run fine when cold and then lose power as soon as it heats up - so it
>>> > is best to check compression when it is hot. Dave
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > And if it's a cracked head, that spells new engine, right? Not
>>> > fixable, right? (gulp).
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > jdood wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Ideal timing for this topic. I am dealing with my hot light coming on
>>> > frequently. I have a 155hp Deluxe. I am on my 2nd mechanic now,
>>> > problem still not solved. Going for a water test tomorrow with him.
>>> > Just paid a bundle to have a new impeller and impeller housing
>>> > replaced, and it definitely needed to be done. I just didn't want to
>>> > attempt it myself - not still during the season atleast. So now I
>>> > have a nice new impeller, and supposedly a new engine water pump too
>>> > (according to the 1st mechanic). So in theory, water should be
>>> > flowing through the engine just fine. But the hot light still is
>>> > coming on, and worse, I have barely any HP at full throttle. It tops
>>> > out at about 10 mph. Not good, I know. For some stupid reason, the
>>> > temp light was wired by some previous owner so It only comes on when
>>> > the instrument lights are turned on. And of course I only discovered
>>> > that after several times out. Most of those times it ran great, just
>>> > wouldn't start back up when hot. But the past 3 times it has had
>>> > this throttle problem. I am just hoping nothing has been serious
>>> > damaged. Anyway - will hopefully know more tomorrow after the water
>>> > test. But my main question is this:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > I have always had outboards, all of which had a nice easy to see tell
>>> > tale stream of water shooting out the side when things were working
>>> > right. I asked 2 boat mechanics on separate occasions if stern drives
>>> > were supposed to have the same thing, both said no - that outboards
>>> > do, but i/o's don't. But this post says otherwise. So do they or
>>> > don't they? And if not, why not? How are you supposed to tell if
>>> > water is circulating properly?
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > jeff
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: owner-omc-boats@...
>>> > <mailto:owner-omc-boats@...>
>>> > [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On Behalf Of David
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:20 PM
>>> > To: omc-boats@... <mailto:omc-boats@...>
>>> > Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Curt,
>>> > If the temp light is on the first thing to check is the stern drive
>>> > while it is running - on the starboard side of the drive you should
>>> > see a steady stream of water shooting out - if not shut her down -
>>> > that would mean the impeller is not pumping at all. Next, if water is
>>> > coming out open the engine cover and feel the exhaust manifolds - they
>>> > should be cool enough to hold your hand on - if not and they feel
>>> > really hot when the light is on, then shut her down - it would likely
>>> > be the engine water pump, or the thermostat that needs attention. As
>>> > to wintering, and I know people will flip at this, but I have seven
>>> > OMC's and have had them for years and have always just opened the
>>> > petcocks on each side of the block - never bothered taking off the
>>> > water pump hoses etc. - just make sure the boat is realatively level
>>> > and the block will drain down and you will not have any freezing
>>> > problems. I keep an OMC V6 Sportsman on the davits on the back of my
>>> > houseboat - and I have used it at 10 below zero - when I lift it back
>>> > out of the water all I do is open those two petcocks - the only real
>>> > problem I have is remembering to close them when I go for a ride - of
>>> > course eventually warm water will creep up to my feet - a sure, but
>>> > gentle reminder! Dave
>>> >
>>> > Curt Broek wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >Group,
>>> >
>>> >I am a relatively new owner. I have a Sportsman 155 acquired in a
>>>cabin
>>> >
>>> >purchase. Its in terrific condition. I'll post pics on the other site
>>> >
>>> >sometime soon.. I have a relatively basic question. The temp light
>>> >goes
>>>on
>>> >
>>> >after a few minutes in the water. Do I need to replace the water pump
>>>and
>>> >
>>> >if so, do I need to know anything special to accomplish that. Where do
>>> >I
>>> >
>>> >get parts? Also, I need to winterize it soon. Could anyone give me
>>> >some
>>> >
>>> >pointers there too?
>>> >
>>> >Much appreciated,
>>> >
>>> >Curt
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >On 9/13/06 2:35 PM, "Curt Broek" <cabroek@...>
>>><mailto:cabroek@...> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >>David,
>>> >>
>>> >>Here are my vitals:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>Curt Broek
>>> >>
>>> >>3941 Greenview Dr.
>>> >>
>>> >>Urbandale, IA
>>> >>
>>> >>cabroek@... <mailto:cabroek@...>
>>> >>
>>> >>'68 Sportsman 155
>>> >>
>>> >>(in Hackensack, MN)
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>I have had trouble getting emails to be sent when I reply. Let me
>>>know
>>>if
>>> >>
>>> >>you get this.
>>> >>
>>> >>Curt
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>On 9/13/06 9:10 AM, "David" <odin@...>
>>> >><mailto:odin@...>
>>>wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>>Ok, as all the members on the membership listing know, I have sent
>>>out
>>> >>>
>>> >>>an updated listing - but only to the listed members - if anyone out
>>> >>>
>>> >>>there has not gotten a listing, and should have, let me know - Also,
>>> >>>if
>>> >>>
>>> >>>anyone out there has not sent me all the info to get on the list, I
>>>am
>>> >>>
>>> >>>ready to add anyone at anytime - just let me know the following:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Name:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Address:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Telephone #:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>Email Address:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>OMC Boats owned:
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>>And I'll get you on the list and get a copy of the list back to you.
>>>Dave
>>> >>>
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>>>Jeff, 
>>>I have never had to replace the housing - the cover plate, or ware
>>>plate does get grooved up and some say the water can pass back through
>>>he grooves - but I have had some super worn ones and never had a
>>>problem - I have not done one in a number of years now so I can't
>>>remember if it was on my OMC or some junky mercruiser drives I had -
>>>but on one of them I was able to just turn the plate over so the
>>>grooved part was outside and a nice smooth surface against the
>>>impeller. Dave 
>>> 
>>>jdood wrote: 
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>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;">Hi Gregory! 
>>>Often the ball gears are low enough to pick up water and kick it into
>>>the air
>>>through that gap - not a big deal - also, a few models had the spray
>>>hole on
>>>the inside by the ball gears and that could be where the water is
>>>coming from
>>>if the boat is not low in the water - but the usual steam hole is on
>>>the bottom
>>>of the starboard pinion cover. Replacing the impeller is not a
>>>difficult
>>>job - and I would say one rarely has to replace the housing - sometimes
>>>the
>>>cover plate gets badly worn and should be replaced, but even that is
>>>not very
>>>often - and you may find that the impeller is fine - not cracking or
>>>chewed up
>>>anywhere - in which case I would leave well enough alone - or put in a
>>>new one
>>>and keep the old as a spare. I am sure if by chance you do need new
>>>parts some
>>>one in the group will have the numbers for you <font
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>>> <span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">On mine, the
>>>impellor was literally in
>>>pieces. All the flappers had broken
>>>and the broken pieces were spinning around in the housing with it.<span
>>> style=""> the "expert" I took it
>>>to said the slightest surface damage on the inside of the housing can
>>>cause the
>>>rubber to deteriorate fast on the new impellor..it seemed to make
>>>sense, but
>>>who knows...i could've been scammed a
>>>bit.<o:p></o:p>
>>> <span
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>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana;"> 
>>> 
>>>Gregory B. Fell wrote: 
>>> 
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>>>haven't had my 69 Sportsman 155 out this entire summer. Busy at
>>>work and a lake down 14 ft (<st1:State u4:st="on"><st1:place
>>>u4:st="on"></st1:place></st1:State><st1:State><st1:place>Texas</st1:place></st1:State>
>>>drought) to blame. Now with the cooler fall weather upon me, I'd
>>>like to do a few things in my driveway. This discussion regarding the
>>>tell-tale stream of water raises a question of my own.<o:p></o:p>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p>
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>>> style="font-size: 12pt;">1. Near the end of the season last year, I
>>>noticed, while at idle, water
>>>was
>>>spraying up from the stern drive onto the engine cover. I didn't
>>>have time to do much more than lay over the back and try to see where
>>>it was
>>>coming from. It appeared to be coming from a location near the ball
>>>gears
>>>and spraying (not a stream) up through the gap. Any
>>>ideas?<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
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>>> style="font-size: 12pt;">2. I'd like to replace the impeller this
>>>winter. I believe the general
>>>consensus this summer has been to replace the housing as well. I've
>>>purchased the Selog manual and am ready to go. What I would appreciate
>>>(for my own peace of mind) is advice regarding the correct part numbers
>>>and
>>>where you would recommend I purchase
>>>them.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3"><u1:p>
>>></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3">>>12pt;">Thanks.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3"><u1:p>
>>></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> <div>
>>> <font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
>>> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">Gregory B.
>>>Fell<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> <font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
>>> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">The Fell Law
>>>Firm<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> <st1:Street
>>> u4:st="on"><st1:address
>>>u4:st="on"><st1:Street><st1:address><font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
>>> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">3300 Oak Lawn Avenue,
>>>Suite
>>>700</st1:address></st1:Street><u1:p></u1:p></st1:address></st1:Street><o:p></o:p>
>>> <st1:place
>>>u4:st="on"><st1:City
>>> u4:st="on"><st1:place><st1:City>>> face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
>>> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0,
>>>160);">Dallas</st1:City></st1:place><font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman"><span
>>> style="color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">, <st1:State
>>>u4:st="on"></st1:State><st1:State><font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman"><span
>>> style="color: rgb(0, 0,
>>>160);">Texas</st1:State></st1:City><font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman"><span
>>> style="color: rgb(0, 0, 160);"> <st1:PostalCode
>>>u4:st="on"></st1:PostalCode><st1:PostalCode><font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman"><span
>>> style="color: rgb(0, 0,
>>>160);">75219</st1:PostalCode></st1:place><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> <font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
>>> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0,
>>>160);">972-488-8177<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> <font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
>>> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);">214-219-4218 -
>>>fax<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> <font
>>> color="#0000a0" face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
>>> style="font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 160);"><a
>>>
>>>href="mailto:gfell@...">gfell@...</a><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> </div>
>>> <div>
>>> <div style="margin-left: 0.5in;">
>>> <div class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 0.5in; text-align: center;"
>>> align="center">>>size="3"><span
>>> style="font-size: 12pt; color: windowtext;">
>>> <hr align="center" size="2" width="100%"></div>
>>> </div>
>>> >> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;
>>>font-weight: bold;">From:<font
>>> color="black" face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> <a
>>>
>>>href="mailto:owner-omc-boats@...">owner-omc-boats@...</a>
>>>[<a
>>>href="mailto:owner-omc-boats@...">mailto:owner-omc-boats@...</a>]
>>> On Behalf Of jdood 
>>> Sent:
>>><st1:date
>>> month="9" day="14" year="2006">>> size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color:
>>>windowtext;">Thursday,
>>>September 14, 2006</st1:date>>> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
>>> <st1:time hour="13" minute="37">>> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">1:37
>>>PM</st1:time>>>size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> 
>>> To: <a
>>> href="mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</a> 
>>> Subject: RE:
>>>[omc-boats] (no
>>>subject)<o:p></o:p>
>>> </div>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3"><u1:p>
>>></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p>
>>></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3">Jeff,
>>>my advise to you is
>>>to ask any mechanic you propose to use if there is a water stream out
>>>of the
>>>sterndrive - if they say no - run away from them as fast and as far as
>>>you can!<o:p></o:p>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p>
>>></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Yeah,
>>>agreed. But this guy seems legit, has a big shop, boats only, OMC
>>>certified, etc.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3"> 
>>> 
>>>Second, always feel the exhaust manifolds - if water is circulating
>>>they will
>>>be warm, not hot - and you are ok - if hot, you are not ok.
>>><o:p></o:p>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p>
>>></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">That is
>>>one I will definitely try...<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p>
>>></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3">As to
>>>the power loss -
>>>the first thing to check is the compression - if any cylinder is low,
>>>say less
>>>than 120 psi, you could well have a cracked head - the most common
>>>crack is
>>>between the intake and exhaust valves which are very close together and
>>>the
>>>crack is usually very thin and hard to see - usually with this type of
>>>crack
>>>the engine will run fine when cold and then lose power as soon as it
>>>heats up -
>>>so it is best to check compression when it is hot.
>>>Dave<o:p></o:p>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u1:p>
>>></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">And if
>>>it's a cracked head, that spells new engine, right? Not fixable,
>>>right? (gulp). <u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3"> 
>>> 
>>>jdood wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>><o:p></o:p>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">Ideal
>>>timing for this topic. I am dealing with my hot
>>>light coming on frequently. I have a 155hp Deluxe. I am on my
>>>2nd mechanic now, problem still not solved. Going for a
>>>water
>>>test tomorrow with him. Just paid a bundle to have a new impeller
>>>and impeller housing replaced, and it definitely needed to be done. I
>>>just didn't want to attempt it myself - not still during the season
>>>atleast. So now I have a nice new impeller, and supposedly a new
>>>engine
>>>water pump too (according to the 1st mechanic). So in
>>>theory,
>>>water should be flowing through the engine just fine. But the hot
>>>light
>>>still is coming on, and worse, I have barely any HP at full throttle. It
>>>tops out at about 10 mph. Not good, I know. For some stupid reason,
>>>the temp light was wired by some previous owner so It only comes on
>>>when the
>>>instrument lights are turned on. And of course I only discovered that
>>>after several times out. Most of those times it ran great, just
>>>wouldn't start back up when hot. But the past 3 times
>>>it has had this throttle problem. I am just hoping nothing
>>>has been serious damaged. Anyway - will hopefully know more
>>>tomorrow after the water test. But my main question is
>>>this:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I have
>>>always had outboards, all of which had a nice easy to see tell tale
>>>stream of
>>>water shooting out the side when things were working right. I asked 2
>>>boat mechanics on separate occasions if stern drives were supposed to
>>>have the
>>>same thing, both said no - that outboards do, but i/o's
>>>don't. But this post says otherwise. So do they
>>>or don't they? And if not, why not? How are you
>>>supposed to tell if water is circulating
>>>properly?<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color:
>>>navy;">jeff<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> <u7:p></u7:p>
>>> >> face="Arial" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color:
>>>windowtext;">-----Original
>>>Message----- 
>>> From: <a
>>>
>>>href="mailto:owner-omc-boats@...">owner-omc-boats@...</a>
>>>[<a
>>>href="mailto:owner-omc-boats@...">mailto:owner-omc-boats@...</a>]
>>> On Behalf Of David 
>>> Sent: <st1:date
>>> month="9" day="13" year="2006"
>>>u4:st="on"></st1:date><st1:date
>>> month="9" day="13" year="2006">>> size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color:
>>>windowtext;">Wednesday,
>>>September 13, 2006</st1:date>>> face="Tahoma" size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">
>>><st1:time
>>> hour="13" minute="20" u4:st="on"></st1:time><st1:time
>>> hour="13" minute="20"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;">1:20
>>>PM</st1:time>>>size="2"><span
>>> style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma; color: windowtext;"> 
>>> To: <a
>>> href="mailto:omc-boats@...">omc-boats@...</a> 
>>> Subject: Re:
>>>[omc-boats] (no
>>>subject)<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p>
>>> >> face="Times New Roman" size="3">Curt,
>>> 
>>>If the temp light is on the first thing to check is the stern drive
>>>while it is
>>>running - on the starboard side of the drive you should see a steady
>>>stream of
>>>water shooting out - if not shut her down - that would mean the
>>>impeller is not
>>>pumping at all. Next, if water is coming out open the engine cover and
>>>feel the
>>>exhaust manifolds - they should be cool enough to hold your hand on -
>>>if not
>>>and they feel really hot when the light is on, then shut her down - it
>>>would
>>>likely be the engine water pump, or the thermostat that needs
>>>attention. As to wintering, and I know people will flip at this, but I
>>>have seven
>>>OMC's
>>>and have had them for years and have always just opened the petcocks on
>>>each
>>>side of the block - never bothered taking off the water pump hoses etc.
>>>- - just
>>>make sure the boat is realatively level and the block will drain down
>>>and you
>>>will not have any freezing problems. I keep an OMC V6 Sportsman on the
>>>davits
>>>on the back of my houseboat - and I have used it at 10 below zero -
>>>when I lift
>>>it back out of the water all I do is open those two petcocks - the only
>>>real
>>>problem I have is remembering to close them when I go for a ride - of
>>>course
>>>eventually warm water will creep up to my feet - a sure, but gentle
>>>reminder! Dave 
>>> 
>>>Curt Broek wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>><o:p></o:p>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;" wrap="">>> face="Courier New" size="2">>>10pt;"><u7:p></u7:p>Group,<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">I am a relatively new owner. I
>>>have a Sportsman 155 acquired in a
>>>cabin<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">purchase. Its in terrific
>>>condition. I'll post pics on the other
>>>site<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">sometime soon.. I have a
>>>relatively basic question. The temp light goes
>>>on<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">after a few minutes in the
>>>water. Do I need to replace the water pump
>>>and<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">if so, do I need to know
>>>anything special to accomplish that. Where do
>>>I<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">get parts? Also, I need to
>>>winterize it soon. Could anyone give me
>>>some<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">pointers there
>>>too?<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">Much
>>>appreciated,<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">>>10pt;">Curt<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">On <st1:date month="9" day="13"
>>> year="2006" u4:st="on"></st1:date><st1:date month="9"
>>> day="13" year="2006">9/13/06</st1:date> 2:35 PM, "Curt Broek" <a
>>> href="mailto:cabroek@..."><cabroek@...></a>
>>>wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p><u7:p></u7:p>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> size="2">
>>><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" type="cite">
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;" wrap="">>> face="Courier New" size="2">David,
>>><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">Here are my
>>>vitals:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">Curt Broek
>>><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"><st1:Street u4:st="on"><st1:address
>>> u4:st="on"><st1:Street><st1:address>>> face="Courier New" size="2">3941
>>>Greenview
>>>Dr</st1:address></st1:Street></st1:address></st1:Street>.<u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <u7:p></u7:p>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;"><st1:place u4:st="on"><st1:City
>>> u4:st="on"><st1:place><st1:City>>> size="2">>>10pt;">Urbandale</st1:City></st1:place>, <st1:State
>>>
>>>u4:st="on"><st1:State>IA</st1:State></st1:State><u1:p></u1:p></st1:City></st1:place><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <u7:p></u7:p>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2"><a
>>>
>>>href="mailto:cabroek@...">cabroek@...</a><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">'68
>>>Sportsman 155<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">(in
>>><st1:place
>>> u4:st="on"><st1:City
>>>u4:st="on"></st1:City></st1:place><st1:place><st1:City>Hackensack</st1:City></st1:place>,
>>><st1:State><st1:State
>>> u4:st="on">MN</st1:State></st1:State>)<o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p><u7:p></u7:p>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">I have had
>>>trouble getting emails to be sent when I reply. Let me know
>>>if<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">you get
>>>this.<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">>>10pt;">Curt<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">On <st1:date
>>> month="9" day="13" year="2006"
>>>u4:st="on"></st1:date><st1:date
>>> month="9" day="13" year="2006">9/13/06</st1:date> 9:10 AM, "David" <a
>>> href="mailto:odin@..."><odin@...></a>
>>>wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <u1:p></u1:p><u7:p></u7:p>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">
>>><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;"
>>>type="cite">
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;" wrap="">>> face="Courier New" size="2">Ok, as all
>>>the members on the membership listing know, I have sent
>>>out<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">an updated
>>>listing - but only to the listed members - if anyone
>>>out<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">there has
>>>not gotten a listing, and should have, let me know - Also,
>>>if<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">anyone out
>>>there has not sent me all the info to get on the list, I
>>>am<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">ready to add
>>>anyone at anytime - just let me know the
>>>following:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">>>10pt;">Name:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">>>10pt;">Address:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">Telephone
>>>#:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">Email
>>>Address:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">OMC Boats
>>>owned:<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2"><u7:p>
>>></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">And I'll get
>>>you on the list and get a copy of the list back to you.
>>>Dave<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">>>10pt;">-----<u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
>>> <pre style="margin-left: 2in;">>> face="Courier New" size="2">To get off
>>>this list send mail to <a
>>>
>>>href="mailto:omc-boats-unsubscribe@...">omc-boats-unsubscribe@...</a><u7:p></u7:p><u1:p></u1:p><o:p></o:p></pre>
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