Re: [OMC-Boats] OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 28, Issue 12

Hello this is sportsman69 155 /before you go to far jump that selinoid with a pair of jumper cabels pos on pos and neg on neg and touch them together it should move up or down dep on witch one you have hooked up if it dont move then its your motor O.K. THANKS FOR READING.

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> 1. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (BC Howk)
> 2. Manuals (BLDFW)
> 3. Re: Manuals (Ethan Brodsky)
> 4. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (Micah Donahue)
> 5. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (Lee Shuster)
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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:13:49 -0500 (CDT)
>From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
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>From: BLDFW <bldfw@...>
>Subject: [OMC-Boats] Manuals
>To: bchowk@..., "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and
> 70's" <omc-boats@...>
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>I'd go one step further and suggest getting a true OMC Service manual as well as a parts manual.? Mine set cost about $100 and it's been worth EVERY PENNY.? I've read through the service and parts manuals several times and found them invaluable in defining areas that I have needed help with.? If I'm unsure about something I'm reading, I usually post a question and see where it goes.?
>
>The guys on this email list are pretty laid back and very helpful.? The guys on another major site are pretty knowledgeable and helpful too but they will lay into you if you don't have any manuals to research on your own.?
>
>It might seem like a lot of money but it sure has saved me from making several mistakes along the way.
>
>-Bill
>Dallas, TX
>1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 Buick V6 - OMC Sterndrive
>http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
>?
>
>--- On Tue, 8/11/09, BC Howk <bchowk@...> wrote:
>
>From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>To: omc-boats@...
>Date: Tuesday, August 11, 2009, 11:13 AM
>
>
>Nexi,
>
>If you have not opened that gear assembly up DON'T.... yet, you are going to want to get a seal kit with gaskets, o-rings and such to put it back together properly. That little saucer looking thing that the tilt gear is on is your tilt clutch/worm gear assembly, a cool little feature I'm glad OMC put in (more on that in another e-mail later)
>
>You have an electrical problem you need to fix before you open that can of worms....get it? worm gear...:-) sorry bad pun.
>
>Anyway, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you have a bad tilt motor...why? glad you asked.....you said that you get 12VDC at either solenoid when you flip the switch in either direction. The tilt motor is supposed to turn one direction for up and the other for down. So the electrical current when the switch is up flows through the windings of the motor in one direction and when the switch is in the down, the electrical current flows the opposite direction. In order to get 12DVC in?both Solenoids in either up or down you must have a "dead short" between the blue and green wire. Most LIKELY that is the windings of the tilt motor itself. My suggestion would be to replace that before you open up anything else.....It's a little bit of a pain with the hammer gears and such but look like you will have the luxury of a little room to work so should't be that bad
>
>I would highly suggest you invest in a solec manual for stringer outdrives or at least spend some time on Lee's site, you'll be amazed at the stuff you'll learn by reading through there even if it doesn't seem immedately relevant to your 120. he does a great job of telling the history and giving a good understanding of how these things actually work. When I first started messing with my sportsman Lee's site and ultimate.com/omc-boats (sorta the omc boats version of google)
>
>Lee, do you have that troubleshooting guide posted somewhere Nexi could grab it? You did an awsome job explaining all of this tilt stuff.
>
>Cheers,
>B.C.
>
>On Aug 10, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote: Just checked both.Blue w/ white stripe - 12VDC when I press tilt up AND downGreen w/ white stripe - 12VDC when I press tilt up AND downBoth of those wires go to a big bolt on the side of the solenoid. I tested the big bolts on the opposite side of each solenoid and those both have constant 12VDC.I did follow?the 'soda can' and looked on the outside of the transom and see a piece with a gear that seems to do the tilting. I'm going to open that up tomorrow and see if perhaps it's gunked up. Will take a pic after I open it and post.
>
>From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
>To: omc-boats@...
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:59:56 AM
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>
>OK the pics help a ton!!! yep the previous owner spliced in some red wire to your tilt motor.....you can see the splice where it goes from blue with a stripe to red wire , the other is green with a yellow splice to red wire....the green should get 12 VDC when you press the tilt button down, the blue should get 12 VDC when you press the switch up...
>The good news for you is that it all looks pretty easy to get to unlike those of us with the 155's.? check those connections and voltage on the blue or green on the solenoids if that's all there.... you have a new battery, so I would suspect the tilt motor itself.
>Good luck
>B.C.
>
>On Aug 10, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote: Both reds are going straight to the solenoid. They're not stock red wires. After further review I can see that a previous owner put them in. Pics attached.
>http://img200.imageshack.us/i/mot00003.jpg/http://img194.imageshack.us/i/mot00001.jpg/http://img513.imageshack.us/i/mot00002.jpg/
>
>
>From: jd <jdood@...>
>To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's <omc-boats@...>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:59:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>
>the big cylinder is the starter.? One red is definitely power to the tilt motor (via the starter post)? The other red wire is probably coming from the battery.? On my '64 Buick 155,? there's a blue and white for up and green and white for down.? (confirm up vs down - i'm going from memory here).? ? Not sure what the green and yellow wires are.? ? Plain green sounds like one of the shift wires.? Yellow doesn't sound familiar - maybe added later by someone...
>
>Lee has some wiring diagrams posted - wiring diagrams look intimidating at first,? but can become your friend after studying them for 2 weeks straight:
>
>http://hhscott.com/evinrude/wiring.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Nexi wrote:
>
>> Found them when my second set of hands got here. Had them hit the switch so I could track the solenoids down. They are at the top rear mounted to the engine block. I'm thinking that I can check the motor itself by running power straight to it. Only problem is figuring out what wires are what. I see 2 red wires going to something cylinder in shape on the bottom of the engine compartment just next to the drive. Then I see a green and a yellow wire going out through the drive section and don't know where they end.
>>
>> From: Andy Perakes <aperakes@...>
>> To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's <omc-boats@...>
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:57:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>>
>> I'm not sure about the 120, but on my 155, the solenoids are on the top rear of the engine compartment.? I can't remember if they mount to the stern drive housing or the engine block, but there's not a lot of real estate and they should be easy to find either way if they're in the same place.? There are 2 solenoids, one to the left and one to the right, (up and down I think, but again can't remember for sure as that repair was a good 20 years ago).
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Nexi
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:05 PM
>> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>>
>> I went ahead and bought a battery, Marine - Starting, and started testing things out on the dash. Blower checks out ok but the tilt isn't working. I can hear a clicking in the rear when I flip the switch, but the engine isn't tilting. From researching a bit it seems the tilt is controlled by a solenoid. How do I track down the problem? Is it possible that the solenoid is bad even though it is clicking? Bad contacts perhaps?
>>
>> Right now I'm waiting for a second set of hands so I can figure out where the solenoid is located.
>>
>>
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>Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:41:48 -0500 (CDT)
>From: Ethan Brodsky <brodskye@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Manuals
>To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
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>On Tue, 11 Aug 2009, BLDFW wrote:
>> I'd go one step further and suggest getting a true OMC Service manual as
>> well as a parts manual.? Mine set cost about $100 and it's been worth
>> EVERY PENNY.? I've read through the service and parts manuals several
>> times and found them invaluable in defining areas that I have needed help
>> with.? If I'm unsure about something I'm reading, I usually post a
>> question and see where it goes.?
>> The guys on this email list are pretty laid back and very helpful.? The
>> guys on another major site are pretty knowledgeable and helpful too but
>> they will lay into you if you don't have any manuals to research on your
>> own.?
>> It might seem like a lot of money but it sure has saved me from making
>> several mistakes along the way.
>
>I highly recommend the manuals as well, and I'd further recommend trying to
>get multiple manuals - the original dealer service manual, plus the Seloc
>manual. I picked up my Dealer Service Manual for $30 or so on ebay, and
>paid about the same for the Seloc manual from an online vendor. I actually
>went all-out and got the Clymer as well, but I don't think it's as good as
>the other two. The factory and Seloc manuals complement each other in
>their weaknesses, which are many. I think the Seloc is the single best
>manual of the three, but the Dealer Service Manual handles some systems
>significantly better. I've skimmed/read through all of them multiple times
>and can generally do most work from memory now, though I still keep them
>out when I'm working on the boat.
>
>I'd also like to get the parts manuals with the exploded drawings of each
>system, but those can be found online at least. Keep an eye out on ebay
>for the manuals (not they're customized for each year and some model
>variations as well; it's not absolutely necessary to get exactly the right
>one, even with the right manual you might find some differences due to
>undocumented or post-production changes), or at least get the Seloc.
>
>The Seloc manual can be had from Amazon and should be on everyone's shelf:
>http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0015G7RIG/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_2?pf_rd_p=304485901&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=089330025X&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=10188SB7J4R48EXV7Q1W
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>Ethan
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>Message: 4
>Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 12:28:47 -0400
>From: Micah Donahue <mdonahue@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>To: omc-boats@...
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>For what it's worth, my tilt motor has stopped working almost every
>winter during 10 years of storage. I've usually found it to be the
>motor itself that has frozen, not wiring or solenoids gone bad. It's a
>pain, but not complicated, to remove the motor and bench test it. In
>most cases I just had to clean and reassemble (using the dental floss
>trick to hold the brushes out). Once I had it rebuilt by a local
>alternator shop, when somehow my cover leaked and it was half-
>submerged in water for a while. It's been a lot more reliable ever
>since. :)
>
>If memory serves, a small ratchet wrench w/ a flexible head will make
>this job a LOT easier. The back nut that holds the motor to the
>intermediate housing is pretty tough to get at. I bought a set just to
>get the wrench I needed for this purpose. 1/2" or 5/8" maybe?
>
>-Micah Donahue
>Newburyport, MA
>'68 Sportsman 120 w/ '69 155
>
>On Aug 11, 2009, at 12:00 PM, omc-boats-request@...
>wrote:
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>> 1. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (BC Howk)
>> 2. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (BC Howk)
>> 3. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (BC Howk)
>> 4. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (Nexi)
>> 5. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (Nexi)
>> 6. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (Nexi)
>> 7. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (BLDFW)
>> 8. Re: Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120 (Lee Shuster)
>>
>> From: BC Howk <bchowk@...>
>> Date: August 11, 2009 1:48:39 AM EDT
>> To: omc-boats@...
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>> Reply-To: bchowk@..., Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's
>> and 70's <omc-boats@...>
>>
>>
>> JD and I are referring to the engine starter motor....If you follow
>> the red wire from your solenoid to the "cylinder" on the bottom of
>> the motor (not familiar with the 120hp but would expect it to be
>> Starboard side?) Assuming that it is the engine starter motor you
>> should see another red wire that goes straight to the positive side
>> of the battery?
>>
>> JD is right, the wiring diagrams make something like this a bunch
>> easier. You might want to invest in a solec manual there is a whole
>> section about troubleshooting and servicing a tilt mechanism
>> complete with pictures and test prceedures.
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>Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2009 11:18:15 -0600
>From: Lee Shuster <Lee.Shuster@...>
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>To: "'bchowk@...'" <bchowk@...>, "'Evinrude & Johnson
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>As far as my OMC Tilt Tips 'guide" goes, I tried to re-post it has a PDF attachment to the list last night and it was awaiting review by Phil due to it's file size.
>
>I aslo sent it directly to Nexi, as a PDF attchment, but again it might get blocked?
>
>I will try and find time to upload it to my own site, but Phil you have my permission to add it to the omc-boats/gullwing site.
>
>I will attach a smaller file versions and see if they gets through.
>
>Lee
>
>
>
>________________________________
>From: omc-boats-bounces@... [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...] On Behalf Of BC Howk
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 10:14 AM
>To: omc-boats@...
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>
>
>Nexi,
>
>If you have not opened that gear assembly up DON'T.... yet, you are going to want to get a seal kit with gaskets, o-rings and such to put it back together properly. That little saucer looking thing that the tilt gear is on is your tilt clutch/worm gear assembly, a cool little feature I'm glad OMC put in (more on that in another e-mail later)
>
>You have an electrical problem you need to fix before you open that can of worms....get it? worm gear...:-) sorry bad pun.
>
>Anyway, I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say you have a bad tilt motor...why? glad you asked.....you said that you get 12VDC at either solenoid when you flip the switch in either direction. The tilt motor is supposed to turn one direction for up and the other for down. So the electrical current when the switch is up flows through the windings of the motor in one direction and when the switch is in the down, the electrical current flows the opposite direction. In order to get 12DVC in both Solenoids in either up or down you must have a "dead short" between the blue and green wire. Most LIKELY that is the windings of the tilt motor itself. My suggestion would be to replace that before you open up anything else.....It's a little bit of a pain with the hammer gears and such but look like you will have the luxury of a little room to work so should't be that bad
>
>I would highly suggest you invest in a solec manual for stringer outdrives or at least spend some time on Lee's site, you'll be amazed at the stuff you'll learn by reading through there even if it doesn't seem immedately relevant to your 120. he does a great job of telling the history and giving a good understanding of how these things actually work. When I first started messing with my sportsman Lee's site and ultimate.com/omc-boats (sorta the omc boats version of google)
>
>Lee, do you have that troubleshooting guide posted somewhere Nexi could grab it? You did an awsome job explaining all of this tilt stuff.
>
>Cheers,
>B.C.
>
>
>On Aug 10, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...> wrote:
>
>Just checked both.
>Blue w/ white stripe - 12VDC when I press tilt up AND down
>Green w/ white stripe - 12VDC when I press tilt up AND down
>Both of those wires go to a big bolt on the side of the solenoid. I tested the big bolts on the opposite side of each solenoid and those both have constant 12VDC.
>I did follow the 'soda can' and looked on the outside of the transom and see a piece with a gear that seems to do the tilting. I'm going to open that up tomorrow and see if perhaps it's gunked up. Will take a pic after I open it and post.
>
>________________________________
>From: BC Howk <bchowk@...<mailto:bchowk@...>>
>To: omc-boats@...<mailto:omc-boats@...>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 1:59:56 AM
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>
>
>OK the pics help a ton!!! yep the previous owner spliced in some red wire to your tilt motor.....you can see the splice where it goes from blue with a stripe to red wire , the other is green with a yellow splice to red wire....the green should get 12 VDC when you press the tilt button down, the blue should get 12 VDC when you press the switch up...
>
>
>The good news for you is that it all looks pretty easy to get to unlike those of us with the 155's. check those connections and voltage on the blue or green on the solenoids if that's all there.... you have a new battery, so I would suspect the tilt motor itself.
>
>
>Good luck
>
>
>B.C.
>
>
>On Aug 10, 2009, Nexi <ohnoitsnexi@...<mailto:ohnoitsnexi@...>> wrote:
>
>Both reds are going straight to the solenoid. They're not stock red wires. After further review I can see that a previous owner put them in. Pics attached.
>
>
>http://img200.imageshack.us/i/mot00003.jpg/
>
>http://img194.imageshack.us/i/mot00001.jpg/
>
>http://img513.imageshack.us/i/mot00002.jpg/
>
>
>________________________________
>From: jd <jdood@...<mailto:jdood@...>>
>To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's <omc-boats@...<mailto:omc-boats@...>>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 12:59:28 AM
>Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>
>the big cylinder is the starter. One red is definitely power to the tilt motor (via the starter post) The other red wire is probably coming from the battery. On my '64 Buick 155, there's a blue and white for up and green and white for down. (confirm up vs down - i'm going from memory here). Not sure what the green and yellow wires are. Plain green sounds like one of the shift wires. Yellow doesn't sound familiar - maybe added later by someone...
>
>Lee has some wiring diagrams posted - wiring diagrams look intimidating at first, but can become your friend after studying them for 2 weeks straight:
>
>http://hhscott.com/evinrude/wiring.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>On Aug 10, 2009, at 8:29 PM, Nexi wrote:
>
>> Found them when my second set of hands got here. Had them hit the switch so I could track the solenoids down. They are at the top rear mounted to the engine block. I'm thinking that I can check the motor itself by running power straight to it. Only problem is figuring out what wires are what. I see 2 red wires going to something cylinder in shape on the bottom of the engine compartment just next to the drive. Then I see a green and a yellow wire going out through the drive section and don't know where they end.
>>
>> From: Andy Perakes <aperakes@...<mailto:aperakes@...>>
>> To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's <omc-boats@...<mailto:omc-boats@...>>
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:57:08 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>>
>> I'm not sure about the 120, but on my 155, the solenoids are on the top rear of the engine compartment. I can't remember if they mount to the stern drive housing or the engine block, but there's not a lot of real estate and they should be easy to find either way if they're in the same place. There are 2 solenoids, one to the left and one to the right, (up and down I think, but again can't remember for sure as that repair was a good 20 years ago).
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Nexi
>> To: omc-boats@...<mailto:omc-boats@...>
>> Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:05 PM
>> Subject: [OMC-Boats] Tilt not working on 1967 Sportsman 120
>>
>> I went ahead and bought a battery, Marine - Starting, and started testing things out on the dash. Blower checks out ok but the tilt isn't working. I can hear a clicking in the rear when I flip the switch, but the engine isn't tilting. From researching a bit it seems the tilt is controlled by a solenoid. How do I track down the problem? Is it possible that the solenoid is bad even though it is clicking? Bad contacts perhaps?
>>
>> Right now I'm waiting for a second set of hands so I can figure out where the solenoid is located.
>>
>>
>>
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