RE: Re: [omc-boats] battery support foam block

I had thought of the front also but you would have to flip the window up to
access it and if you look under the existing seats in front, there is no
room due to the angle of the bow. I'm sure you could find a way somehow. I
would also put a pump to fill/exchange the water. If you did take on water
you could flip the switch to pump the water out of the live well. An empty
sealed live well could provide the same support as the foam if it were
sealed and mounted. How much does an empty or full fuel tank affect the
level? Any thoughts?

Ryan

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
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Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:24 PM
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Subject: Re: Re: [omc-boats] battery support foam block

Ryan,

Interesting Idea!

Ultimately, I would tend to agree with Lee, it's a judgement call, However,
might I also offer that with a live well it is you INTENTION to swamp part
of the boat. A gallon of water weighs 8.34 pounds if you substituted all of
that foam with live well area i'd guess somewhere in the area of 10 to 15
gallons, if you kept it reasonably shallow? So, you would be looking at
anywhere from 83 to 125 extra pounds, all on the stbd/aft corner. While I
don't think you'd sink the boat, I would think that you would run a little
bow high with a stbd list.

I have kicked around the idea of a live well as a possible project (way in
the future) and always thought that I would want it up front, away from the
engine, the heat and where the boat is already heavy. Since I have a '69 all
I have up front is fiberglass with "bow rider" seats, so it would be a
natural to build a box around a cooler (for a tank) and cover the cooler lid
to double as a bow rider seat. I also thought would be pretty cool to rig up
an auto fill/drain switch with a pump and some tubing.

Alternatively, if you used a cooler as a base for you passenger seats? the
trick with that would be to find a VERY low cooler so you wouldn't be
sitting up like too tall Jones as you cruise to you favorite spot.:-)

Whatever you decide, i'd love to know what you come up with. A live well
would be a pretty handy thing.

By the way, I use that ledge to keep a storage box and of course the
battery, I personally would hate to loose that space.

Cheers,
B.C.

>From: lib1@...
>Date: 2007/05/01 Tue PM 02:27:35 CDT
>To: omc-boats@...
>Subject: Re: [omc-boats] battery support foam block

>This is an interesting topic. OMC was an "early adopter" in helping to set

>the industry standards for "level" floatation when swamped at full-rated
>load capacity.
>
>Originally this "extra" rear area floatation wasn't critical on the early
>17's and 16's with the relatively lightweight 2-stroke V4 outboards and
>sterndrives.
>
>But with the added rear weight of the V6 and V8's the rear floatation
>"blocks" were added to keep a swamped boat level.
>
>Mine were also fairly beat up and I removed them when I did the V8
>re-powering project. From a safety standpoint this may have been foolhardy

>and I don't recommend it. (The V8 added about 80 lbs) Is the boat now
>suddendly going to sink? No. It will mostly likely ride bow-high if it ever

>gets swamped. (I also installed a new (higher capacity) bilge pump with
>auto-sensor.) I also carry manual (hand) bailing pumps and buckets.
>
>It's a judgement call but I too, needed the storage space. And it also
makes
>me think twice about getting into situations where the stern might take on
a
>lot of water.
>If you boat does ever become swamped, try to move the passengers forward
>(but remember to stay with the boat).
>
>Lee
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Ryan Moore
>To: omc-boats@...
>Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 11:33 AM
>Subject: [omc-boats] battery support foam block
>
>
>B.C. wrote "there is a ledge on the stbd. side where the battery and an
>accessory/tool box usually go."
>
>The foam that is directly under the battery and tool box, how important is
>this foam? Mice have gotten into mine in the past and I was considering
>replacing the tool box area with a live well.
>1. Will the foam save the boat from sinking?
>2. Do you think the bait would survive a days worth of fishing in

>this environment?
>3. Anyone have a better location for a live well?
>
>Ryan
>
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