Re: [OMC-Boats] Plastic Parts

The problem is that OMC spent so much on engineering every part. These are injection molded pieces. The dash lense also appears to be a strange plastic formula because I have found that typical solvent-based welds even with heat enhancement proves ineffective.

Regarding the lenses for the running lights - FYI - just to construct a mold tool, I have quotes in the $500-$700 range... The "Holy Grail" would be if someone could track down any of the original tooling for these parts...

Jake
 
> From: jdood@...
> To: omc-boats@...
> Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 11:37:24 -0700
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
>
> yeah, how i wish you could just go to a plastics shop and get a one-
> off of whatever (lense, dashboard) custom fabricated just like you
> can with practically any metal object at a machine shop. And with
> all the plastic crap filling the stores, you would think there would
> some custom plastic fabrication shop out there. In my city there
> are, but they deal mainly with flat plexiglass for sign making
> stuff. I've even looked into making a latex mold and trying to
> make a lense myself.....but apparently lense plastic is a special type
> of plastic and anything else will break quickly. i dunno.
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2009, at 10:38 AM, Lee Shuster wrote:
>
> > There are urban legends about the Deluxe 17 windshield coming from a
> > GM or Chrysler product, but I've never bought into that. OMC was
> > fairly good at designing and manufacturing everything in the chain
> > themselves.
> >
> > The Chinese are very good at duplicating and cranking out just about
> > anything, I'm certain that it would probably be an easier route
> > than finding the elusive new-old-stock inventory in a barn somewhere.
> >
> > Another critical part that will become increasingly hard to find is
> > the OMC/Johnson F-N-R switch inside the single-lever "Electramatic"
> > remote control. Or the plastic fuel caps that seem to fall apart. We
> > should start compiling a list of our favorite items, like the
> > plastic lenses, steering wheel center hubs, etc., etc.
> >
> > Go for it!
> >
> > lee Shuster
> >
> > From: omc-boats-bounces@... [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...sts.ultimate.com
> > ] On Behalf Of Kim Foster
> > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:13 AM
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> >
> > Is the windshield, itself, an 'off the shelf' automotive part or did
> > they actually have them molded to OMC specifications... If
> > automotive, what is it?
> >
> > We have a running bet out here that it is a Chrysler part - based on
> > the double compound curve.
> >
> > If they are not automotive and break, is there a source where any of
> > them are still in inventory?
> >
> > Actually, that is a good general question... There are several
> > places where we can get NOS Chris Craft and Century parts where
> > people have bought up inventory from old dealers/factory
> > inventories. And, of course, we are seeing the usual influx of
> > Chinese reproduction parts on some of the bright work pieces -
> > usually of inferior quality but cosmetically correct... So is there
> > any 'source' out there that you know of that may have some NOS parts
> > for the Deluxe series...? Heck, with all the interest on these
> > lists, I may have to take a trip to China myself!
> >
> > Thanks for all of your insight...
> >
> > Jake
> >
> > > From: LKS@...
> > > To: omc-boats@...
> > > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:47:35 -0600
> > > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> > >
> > > Yeah it is a bordering on Rube Goldberg - Buck Rodgers. If you
> > only isolate
> > > that one design feature. But taken as a whole the 17 was an
> > amazing break
> > > through design.
> > >
> > > But when OMC designed the 17 the were really stretching the
> > envelope in all
> > > areas. Perhaps they were inspired by Dorsett Marine, who
> > contracted with the
> > > famous industrial designer, Raymond Loewy. Jump over to
> > fiberglassics.com
> > > and check them out. Dorsett had an innovative windshield design
> > that tilted
> > > manually. From a practical standpoint there are areas of the
> > country where
> > > allowing in some air is helpful. While not very graceful, it also
> > allows
> > > someone (small kid maybe?) to scamper into the boat from the bow,
> > as in when
> > > you back down the ramp and the boat starts floating slowly away
> > with no line
> > > attached.
> > >
> > > Or maybe after they designed that wonderful aluminum frame and
> > safety glass
> > > windshield (years ahead of the flimsy plexiglass windshilelds
> > commonly seen
> > > in the late fifties-early sixties) because they just wanted a WOW-
> > UH-AH
> > > factor to show off at boat shows? Who knows?
> > >
> > > The Deluxe 17 really did bring turn-key automotive t ype technolgy
> > to family
> > > recreational boating. Everything was already there, like it had
> > been planned
> > > from the beginning! Did they over do it? You be the judge. When
> > you think
> > > about the whole line of OMC boats had pretty nifty windshields,
> > but they did
> > > get more conventional as time went on.
> > >
> > > Lee Shuster
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "jd" <jdood@...>
> > > To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
> > > <omc-boats@...>
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:35 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> > >
> > >
> > > > i've never quite got the logic behind this tilting windshield
> > idea.
> > > > isn't that the point of a windshield, so wind doesn't hit you in
> > the
> > > > face? and even without it tilted, a boat is basically a
> > convertible
> > > > car. plenty of breeze blowing you in the face anyway. maybe i'm
> > > > missing something.
> > > >
> > > > 2 yrs ago i completely disassembled my windsheild's tilt motor,
> > lubed
> > > > it, reassembled - and it still squeaked, jammed up, and blew the
> > > > fuse. haven't tried to tilt it since.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On May 5, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Lee Shuster wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> Here's a photo that shows off the Deluxe 17's cool windshield:
> > > >>
> > > >> http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/gallery/lee.shuster/omc17/0.jpg
> > > >>
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: omc-boats-bounces@...
> > > >> [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@... ] On Behalf Of Lee
> > Shuster
> > > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 5:47 AM
> > > >> To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's
> > > >> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> > > >>
> > > >> Check out the photos of the OMC/Deluxe 17 in the Brochure
> > section of
> > > >> Phil's website.
> > > >>
> > > >> The Safety Glass windshield on the Deluxe 17 and Dual 17 was
> > power
> > > >> operated (hinged at top) to allow for ventilation. This probably
> > > >> inspired the fold-flat (MANUAL) windshield that first appeared
> > on the
> > > >> 14-ft Playboy/Caprice and a year later on the 19-ft'ers.
> > > >>
> > > >> Pretty cool.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lee
> > > >> ________________________________________
> > > >> From: omc-boats-bounces@...
> > > >> [omc-boats-bounces@... ] On Behalf Of BLDFW
> > > >> [bldfw@...]
> > > >> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:22 PM
> > > >> To: omc-boats@...
> > > >> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> > > >>
> > > >> Not heard of a windscreen tilt motor option. How's it work?
> > > >>
> > > >> -Bill
> > > >> Dallas, TX
> > > >> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 V6 OMC Sterndrive
> > > >> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> --- On Mon, 5/4/09, omc-boats-request@...
> > > >> <omc-boats-request@...
> > > >> > wrote:
> > > >> From: omc-boats-request@...
> > > >> <omc-boats-request@...
> > > >> >
> > > >> Subject: OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 25, Issue 13
> > > >> To: omc-boats@...
> > > >> Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 6:22 PM
> > > >>
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> > > >> 1. Re: 1964 OMC Johnson Deluxe - Wiring Diagram?
> > (lks@...)
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Jeff, does you Deluxe have the windscreen tilt motor? That's
> > important
> > > >> because I believe there should be a single GREEN 12 ga wire
> > that runs
> > > >> from the ammeter's (+) GEN side and connects to the WINDSHIELD
> > TILT
> > > >> MOTOR Circuit Breaker. This should be a single replaceable
> > wire, not
> > > >> part of any cable assembly. This wire should connect to the
> > Ammeter
> > > >> terminal nearest the centerline of the boat, close to the
> > speedometer,
> > > >> tucked behind the fuse block and the other end to the
> > Windshield Tilt
> > > >> Motor Circuit breaker.
> > > >>
> > > >> The remaining ammeter wire (connects nearest the fuel gage)
> > should be a
> > > >> 14 ga BROWN and it should connect to the IGNITION Switch. It
> > should be
> > > >> bundled into the "main" instrument panel harness assembly that
> > > >> interconnects the tach, fuel gage, ammeter, and Ignition switch.
> > > >>
> > > >> Also, I forgot the DeLuxe dashboard has three small terminal
> > blocks
> > > >> (sometimes called busses), just above the fuel guage and
> > ammeter, The
> > > >> outer two are Positive (+) while the center block is (-) Neg or
> > ground.
> > > >> These are in addition to the Fuse block, which also has a
> > grounding
> > > >> buss.
> > > >>
> > > >> One smart thing OMC did on the DeLUXE that they dropped from
> > later
> > > >> models, they used a resettable circuit breaker on the tilt motor
> > > >> circuit. On most models like my 66 Sportsman they didn't
> > protect it at
> > > >> all, later on (69-up ?) the put in a fusible link in the high
> > current
> > > >> supply line to the tilt relays.
> > > >>
> > > >> Hope this helps.. I'm digging thru my junk lookming for a Deluxe
> > > >> schematic for you. No promises, however.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lee Shuster
> > > >>
> > > >>
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