Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt

I completely disagree. The folding windshield on my '67 Reveler is one of
the main reasons I've kept it all these years. I almost never run with it
up -- it gets too dang hot without the added airflow. Opening the vent
along the bottom of the windshield (another great design feature) helps, but
its still not enough. Visibility is much better with it down too. About
the only time I put it up are on cold days or when I get caught in rough
water and don't want to risk taking a wave over the bow (and thus into the
boat). The other awesome feature is the lack of side glass. I've long
coveted a bowrider for the added passenger carrying space up front and ease
of moving around while fishing. But again, I keep coming back to how easy
it is to pull up next to a downed skier, etc. and both see and talk to them
without obstruction while seated. To do that with any current bowrider you
have to stand up to clear the side glass and standing puts you in less
control of the vehicle at a point where you need to be in full control.
These boats are both very high quality (how many other 40-year old boats are
still out there?) and well-thought-out designs.

----- Original Message -----
From: "jd" <jdood@...>
To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
<omc-boats@...>
Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt

> Yeah, I definitely agree. Excluding the one step too far windshield
> idea, the rest of the boat is just too cool! I knew nothing about my
> boat when I bought it. I just instantly fell in love with it's "look".
> The 50's/60's shape/form of it, and those great (albeit cracked)
> navigation lights built into the sides of the hull instead of a single
> light on the point of the bow like usual. And that was on the
> trailer. Once finally having it in the water and seeing it floating -
> it looked even better. Now if I could just get it running.
>
>
>
>
>
> On May 6, 2009, at 8:47 AM, Lee K. Shuster (lks) wrote:
>
>> Yeah it is a bordering on Rube Goldberg - Buck Rodgers. If you only
>> isolate that one design feature. But taken as a whole the 17 was an
>> amazing break through design.
>>
>> But when OMC designed the 17 the were really stretching the envelope in
>> all areas. Perhaps they were inspired by Dorsett Marine, who contracted
>> with the famous industrial designer, Raymond Loewy. Jump over to
>> fiberglassics.com and check them out. Dorsett had an innovative
>> windshield design that tilted manually. From a practical standpoint
>> there are areas of the country where allowing in some air is helpful.
>> While not very graceful, it also allows someone (small kid maybe?) to
>> scamper into the boat from the bow, as in when you back down the ramp
>> and the boat starts floating slowly away with no line attached.
>>
>> Or maybe after they designed that wonderful aluminum frame and safety
>> glass windshield (years ahead of the flimsy plexiglass windshilelds
>> commonly seen in the late fifties-early sixties) because they just
>> wanted a WOW-UH-AH factor to show off at boat shows? Who knows?
>>
>> The Deluxe 17 really did bring turn-key automotive t ype technolgy to
>> family recreational boating. Everything was already there, like it had
>> been planned from the beginning! Did they over do it? You be the judge.
>> When you think about the whole line of OMC boats had pretty nifty
>> windshields, but they did get more conventional as time went on.
>>
>> Lee Shuster
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "jd" <jdood@...>
>> To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
>> <omc-boats@...
>> >
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
>>
>>
>>> i've never quite got the logic behind this tilting windshield idea.
>>> isn't that the point of a windshield, so wind doesn't hit you in the
>>> face? and even without it tilted, a boat is basically a convertible
>>> car. plenty of breeze blowing you in the face anyway. maybe i'm
>>> missing something.
>>>
>>> 2 yrs ago i completely disassembled my windsheild's tilt motor, lubed
>>> it, reassembled - and it still squeaked, jammed up, and blew the
>>> fuse. haven't tried to tilt it since.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 5, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Lee Shuster wrote:
>>>
>>>> Here's a photo that shows off the Deluxe 17's cool windshield:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/gallery/lee.shuster/omc17/0.jpg
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: omc-boats-bounces@...
>>>> [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@... ] On Behalf Of Lee Shuster
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 5:47 AM
>>>> To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's
>>>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
>>>>
>>>> Check out the photos of the OMC/Deluxe 17 in the Brochure section of
>>>> Phil's website.
>>>>
>>>> The Safety Glass windshield on the Deluxe 17 and Dual 17 was power
>>>> operated (hinged at top) to allow for ventilation. This probably
>>>> inspired the fold-flat (MANUAL) windshield that first appeared on the
>>>> 14-ft Playboy/Caprice and a year later on the 19-ft'ers.
>>>>
>>>> Pretty cool.
>>>>
>>>> Lee
>>>> ________________________________________
>>>> From: omc-boats-bounces@...
>>>> [omc-boats-bounces@... ] On Behalf Of BLDFW
>>>> [bldfw@...]
>>>> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:22 PM
>>>> To: omc-boats@...
>>>> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
>>>>
>>>> Not heard of a windscreen tilt motor option. How's it work?
>>>>
>>>> -Bill
>>>> Dallas, TX
>>>> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 V6 OMC Sterndrive
>>>> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Mon, 5/4/09, omc-boats-request@...
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>>>> From: omc-boats-request@...
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>>>> >
>>>> Subject: OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 25, Issue 13
>>>> To: omc-boats@...
>>>> Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 6:22 PM
>>>>
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>>>> 1. Re: 1964 OMC Johnson Deluxe - Wiring Diagram? (lks@...)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jeff, does you Deluxe have the windscreen tilt motor? That's
>>>> important because I believe there should be a single GREEN 12 ga wire
>>>> that runs from the ammeter's (+) GEN side and connects to the
>>>> WINDSHIELD TILT MOTOR Circuit Breaker. This should be a single
>>>> replaceable wire, not part of any cable assembly. This wire should
>>>> connect to the Ammeter terminal nearest the centerline of the boat,
>>>> close to the speedometer, tucked behind the fuse block and the other
>>>> end to the Windshield Tilt Motor Circuit breaker.
>>>>
>>>> The remaining ammeter wire (connects nearest the fuel gage) should be
>>>> a 14 ga BROWN and it should connect to the IGNITION Switch. It should
>>>> be bundled into the "main" instrument panel harness assembly that
>>>> interconnects the tach, fuel gage, ammeter, and Ignition switch.
>>>>
>>>> Also, I forgot the DeLuxe dashboard has three small terminal blocks
>>>> (sometimes called busses), just above the fuel guage and ammeter, The
>>>> outer two are Positive (+) while the center block is (-) Neg or
>>>> ground. These are in addition to the Fuse block, which also has a
>>>> grounding buss.
>>>>
>>>> One smart thing OMC did on the DeLUXE that they dropped from later
>>>> models, they used a resettable circuit breaker on the tilt motor
>>>> circuit. On most models like my 66 Sportsman they didn't protect it
>>>> at all, later on (69-up ?) the put in a fusible link in the high
>>>> current supply line to the tilt relays.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.. I'm digging thru my junk lookming for a Deluxe
>>>> schematic for you. No promises, however.
>>>>
>>>> Lee Shuster
>>>>
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Received on Wednesday, 6 May 2009