Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt

From: jd <jdood@...>
Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 21:51:54 -0700

wow, so unless you are fortunate enough to have a
spare.........break a windshield on a deluxe and the boat is pretty
much worthless. Can plexyglass versions be custom made
'(affordably)?

On May 6, 2009, at 12:01 PM, Rob Langdon wrote:

> I had someone tell they looked into the windshield and found it was
> a 56 Buick. I have a couple spares “just in case”. See attached
> photo and decide.
>
> Rob Langdon
>
> From: omc-boats-bounces@... [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...
> ] On Behalf Of Lee Shuster
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 1:38 PM
> To: 'Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's'
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
>
> There are urban legends about the Deluxe 17 windshield coming from a
> GM or Chrysler product, but I've never bought into that. OMC was
> fairly good at designing and manufacturing everything in the chain
> themselves.
>
> The Chinese are very good at duplicating and cranking out just about
> anything, I'm certain that it would probably be an easier route
> than finding the elusive new-old-stock inventory in a barn somewhere.
>
> Another critical part that will become increasingly hard to find is
> the OMC/Johnson F-N-R switch inside the single-lever "Electramatic"
> remote control. Or the plastic fuel caps that seem to fall apart. We
> should start compiling a list of our favorite items, like the
> plastic lenses, steering wheel center hubs, etc., etc.
>
> Go for it!
>
> lee Shuster
>
> From: omc-boats-bounces@... [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...
> ] On Behalf Of Kim Foster
> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 11:13 AM
> To: omc-boats@...
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> Is the windshield, itself, an 'off the shelf' automotive part or did
> they actually have them molded to OMC specifications... If
> automotive, what is it?
>
> We have a running bet out here that it is a Chrysler part - based on
> the double compound curve.
>
> If they are not automotive and break, is there a source where any of
> them are still in inventory?
>
> Actually, that is a good general question... There are several
> places where we can get NOS Chris Craft and Century parts where
> people have bought up inventory from old dealers/factory
> inventories. And, of course, we are seeing the usual influx of
> Chinese reproduction parts on some of the bright work pieces -
> usually of inferior quality but cosmetically correct... So is there
> any 'source' out there that you know of that may have some NOS parts
> for the Deluxe series...? Heck, with all the interest on these
> lists, I may have to take a trip to China myself!
>
> Thanks for all of your insight...
>
> Jake
>
> > From: LKS@...
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Date: Wed, 6 May 2009 09:47:35 -0600
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> >
> > Yeah it is a bordering on Rube Goldberg - Buck Rodgers. If you
> only isolate
> > that one design feature. But taken as a whole the 17 was an
> amazing break
> > through design.
> >
> > But when OMC designed the 17 the were really stretching the
> envelope in all
> > areas. Perhaps they were inspired by Dorsett Marine, who
> contracted with the
> > famous industrial designer, Raymond Loewy. Jump over to
> fiberglassics.com
> > and check them out. Dorsett had an innovative windshield design
> that tilted
> > manually. From a practical standpoint there are areas of the
> country where
> > allowing in some air is helpful. While not very graceful, it also
> allows
> > someone (small kid maybe?) to scamper into the boat from the bow,
> as in when
> > you back down the ramp and the boat starts floating slowly away
> with no line
> > attached.
> >
> > Or maybe after they designed that wonderful aluminum frame and
> safety glass
> > windshield (years ahead of the flimsy plexiglass windshilelds
> commonly seen
> > in the late fifties-early sixties) because they just wanted a WOW-
> UH-AH
> > factor to show off at boat shows? Who knows?
> >
> > The Deluxe 17 really did bring turn-key automotive t ype technolgy
> to family
> > recreational boating. Everything was already there, like it had
> been planned
> > from the beginning! Did they over do it? You be the judge. When
> you think
> > about the whole line of OMC boats had pretty nifty windshields,
> but they did
> > get more conventional as time went on.
> >
> > Lee Shuster
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "jd" <jdood@...>
> > To: "Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's"
> > <omc-boats@...>
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 7:35 PM
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> >
> >
> > > i've never quite got the logic behind this tilting windshield
> idea.
> > > isn't that the point of a windshield, so wind doesn't hit you in
> the
> > > face? and even without it tilted, a boat is basically a
> convertible
> > > car. plenty of breeze blowing you in the face anyway. maybe i'm
> > > missing something.
> > >
> > > 2 yrs ago i completely disassembled my windsheild's tilt motor,
> lubed
> > > it, reassembled - and it still squeaked, jammed up, and blew the
> > > fuse. haven't tried to tilt it since.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On May 5, 2009, at 2:07 PM, Lee Shuster wrote:
> > >
> > >> Here's a photo that shows off the Deluxe 17's cool windshield:
> > >>
> > >> http://www.ultimate.com/omc-boats/gallery/lee.shuster/omc17/0.jpg
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: omc-boats-bounces@...
> > >> [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@... ] On Behalf Of Lee
> Shuster
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2009 5:47 AM
> > >> To: Evinrude & Johnson Boats of the 1960's and 70's
> > >> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> > >>
> > >> Check out the photos of the OMC/Deluxe 17 in the Brochure
> section of
> > >> Phil's website.
> > >>
> > >> The Safety Glass windshield on the Deluxe 17 and Dual 17 was
> power
> > >> operated (hinged at top) to allow for ventilation. This probably
> > >> inspired the fold-flat (MANUAL) windshield that first appeared
> on the
> > >> 14-ft Playboy/Caprice and a year later on the 19-ft'ers.
> > >>
> > >> Pretty cool.
> > >>
> > >> Lee
> > >> ________________________________________
> > >> From: omc-boats-bounces@...
> > >> [omc-boats-bounces@... ] On Behalf Of BLDFW
> > >> [bldfw@...]
> > >> Sent: Monday, May 04, 2009 9:22 PM
> > >> To: omc-boats@...
> > >> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] Windscreen tilt
> > >>
> > >> Not heard of a windscreen tilt motor option. How's it work?
> > >>
> > >> -Bill
> > >> Dallas, TX
> > >> 1970 Evinrude Explorer - 155 V6 OMC Sterndrive
> > >> http://www.photobucket.com/evinrude_explorer
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --- On Mon, 5/4/09, omc-boats-request@...
> > >> <omc-boats-request@...
> > >> > wrote:
> > >> From: omc-boats-request@...
> > >> <omc-boats-request@...
> > >> >
> > >> Subject: OMC-Boats Digest, Vol 25, Issue 13
> > >> To: omc-boats@...
> > >> Date: Monday, May 4, 2009, 6:22 PM
> > >>
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> > >> 1. Re: 1964 OMC Johnson Deluxe - Wiring Diagram?
> (lks@...)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Jeff, does you Deluxe have the windscreen tilt motor? That's
> important
> > >> because I believe there should be a single GREEN 12 ga wire
> that runs
> > >> from the ammeter's (+) GEN side and connects to the WINDSHIELD
> TILT
> > >> MOTOR Circuit Breaker. This should be a single replaceable
> wire, not
> > >> part of any cable assembly. This wire should connect to the
> Ammeter
> > >> terminal nearest the centerline of the boat, close to the
> speedometer,
> > >> tucked behind the fuse block and the other end to the
> Windshield Tilt
> > >> Motor Circuit breaker.
> > >>
> > >> The remaining ammeter wire (connects nearest the fuel gage)
> should be a
> > >> 14 ga BROWN and it should connect to the IGNITION Switch. It
> should be
> > >> bundled into the "main" instrument panel harness assembly that
> > >> interconnects the tach, fuel gage, ammeter, and Ignition switch.
> > >>
> > >> Also, I forgot the DeLuxe dashboard has three small terminal
> blocks
> > >> (sometimes called busses), just above the fuel guage and
> ammeter, The
> > >> outer two are Positive (+) while the center block is (-) Neg or
> ground.
> > >> These are in addition to the Fuse block, which also has a
> grounding
> > >> buss.
> > >>
> > >> One smart thing OMC did on the DeLUXE that they dropped from
> later
> > >> models, they used a resettable circuit breaker on the tilt motor
> > >> circuit. On most models like my 66 Sportsman they didn't
> protect it at
> > >> all, later on (69-up ?) the put in a fusible link in the high
> current
> > >> supply line to the tilt relays.
> > >>
> > >> Hope this helps.. I'm digging thru my junk lookming for a Deluxe
> > >> schematic for you. No promises, however.
> > >>
> > >> Lee Shuster
> > >>
> > >>
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