Re: [OMC-Boats] Dwell/tach

I hadn't planned on adjusting the timing. Just checking it while I was
poking around in there. Once I get in and look around, I'll let you
know if I have more questions. Good to know about the Buick 340. Any
idea of the horsepower increase if I performed said swap? What about
other GM small blocks?

And while we're talking, let me run a few other things by you. I spoke
with a marine mechanic today, he gave me some info on the stringers,
but it's been so long since he's actually worked on one, I wanted to
make sure he was remembering correctly. Because he said a few things
that are in direct contradiction with the owners manual for my boat.
First, we we're talking about oil. I told him I used type C or Premium
(in OMC speak) fluid in the lower and upper gear case. He told me I
goofed. He said they use Type C in the lower gear case, and high vis
in the upper gear case and tilt motor gear case. When I told him the
manual said to use type C in those, he told me I must have read wrong.
Well I checked, and I was right, they call for type c in all those
places. Should I be using Hi vis? He also said there is oil in the
intermediate that needs to be changed. I can't find any mention of
this in the manual.

One more thing, this guy told me changing out the impeller requires
the outdrive to come off the boat before I remove the lower unit. Said
I'd damage it if I removed it without first removing the outdrive from
the intermediate. Now, I know this guy, and he knows his stuff. But
they stopped working on stringers years ago, so it wouldn't shock me
if he's wrong on some of this. Once I get my service manual, I'l' be
golden, but until then, I'm flying blind. No biggie though, I don't
plan on replacing the impeller until winter. This year, I'm storing
the boat in my mother in laws garage so I can get some projects done
on it over the winter. (Let me tell you, it's going to be a real feat
to get it into her garage. The garage is big enough, but the location
will make it tricky to get a boat in. I'll take pictures of that
fiasco.)
Thanks for all the info.


On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 12:03 AM, Lee Shuster (lib1) <lib1@...> wrote:
>
> NO, you're describing a SECONDARY HV INDUCTIVE pickup designed to sense
> pulse firing off No.1 cylinder. I'm not surprised that's what you are more
> familiar with. These induction pickups are also commonly used on timing
> lights as well.
>
> NOTE: I"M Pretty sure that's NOT what you have with the RAC If it has
> the common red and black alligator clips.
>
> This RAC tach/dwell PROBABLY hooks up to one of (two) the small threaded
> terminals on the COIL. The coil has THREE CONNECTIONS.
>
> 1) HV SECONDARY which sends high voltage spark to the center distributor
> terminal. IGNORE
>
> 2) + IGN (PRIMARY) Voltage from the ballast resistor (small threaded
> terminal) IGNORE
>
> 3) - (PRIMARY) voltage small lead to distributor and lead to tach (Small
> threaded terminal) HOOK UP THE RED TACH LEAD HERE. Connect the BLACK TACH
> lead to any common ground.
>
> THERE"S NO Timing "port" like you're used to viewing on motorcycles. Instead
> there will be timing "marks" on the rotating damper which is connected to
> the front crankshaft. There will be a static pointer. Point your timing
> light at the pointer when the engine is running (follow the manual
> instructions to adjust timing). The distributor will mechanically advance
> the timing over 20 degrees as you increase the RPMs up to roughly 2750 to
> 3000 RPM. It's not recommended you alter ign timing, until you checked
> compression, gapped the plugs, checked spark plug HT wire resistance/HV, set
> the points & dwell.
>
> Have fun. BTW, I researched the Buick V8 faimly a little more. The 300
> shares pretty much everything with the 340 and would be a no-brainer bolt
> in. The 350 Buick shares very little, I'm not sure exhaust manifolds would
> swap over.
>
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2009, at 8:00 PM, Justin DeSantis wrote:
>
>> Cool, I'm looking forward to hooking it up and comparing it's accuracy
>> to my other 2 tachs. Hopefully it's correct. You just clipping it on
>> to the outside of the plug wire like a modern tach, or does it require
>> some special hook-up procedure. One more question where is the port to
>> inspect timing? (I ordered a service manual. Not here yet.)
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:47 PM, Lee Shuster <lks@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I've got one of those old-school RAC's too. Pretty common back in the
>>> sixties.
>>>
>>> Simple to hook it:
>>>
>>> 1) You connect the Red side to the (-) coil primary (same terminal which
>>> has
>>> the lead to your distributor points.
>>> 2) Then the other side is connected to a good engine ground.
>>>
>>> Should have a switch to change from 6 to 8 cyl. (4 cyl used 1/2 the 8 cyl
>>> reading).
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sep 11, 2009, at 5:45 PM, Justin DeSantis wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey gang. I borrowed a dwell meter and tach combo from a friend. I
>>>> can't for the life of me figure out how to use it as a tach though.
>>>> It's an old RAC dwell/tach. all it has is red and black alligator
>>>> clips. Other tachs I've used just go to the spark plug cable, one
>>>> wire. How does this thing hook up for use as a tach? One lead to the
>>>> spark plug, one to the battery negative? I know how to use it as
>>>> dwell, but not as tach. Anyone use one of these old beasts?
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