Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted from Scott Veazie on 2009-09-23 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: Scott Veazie <scottveazie@...>
Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 09:18:43 -0700

In that case, go for one of those 225hp v6's they had, very quiet, light, and what a punch with two of them! You could also run a leaner mixture than the 50:1 since the newer units required less oil. The biggest issue would be getting the intermediate housing to mate up to the powerheads.

> From: Lee.Shuster@...
> To: brodskye@...
> Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:13:02 -0600
> CC: omc-boats@...
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted
>
> The problem with the little Chevy inline 4's is their power-to-weight ratio. That's what was so ideal about having the dual 480 two strokes. The were ultra-light, feather-weights!
>
> Another possibility would be to adapt the later OMC 2-stroke V6 outboard engines to an intermediate housing. Then you would have some serious power with very little weight.
>
> OMC apparently once explored this possibility, but found they could buy GM automotive 4, 6, and 8's cheaper than they could built V4 and V6 2-stroke power heads, so they didn't take the idea any further with respect to sterndrives.
>
> Lee
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ethan Brodsky [mailto:brodskye@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:53 AM
> To: Lee Shuster
> Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted
>
> Wouldn't it be beautiful with a pair of inline sixes? It'd be no less practical than your typical modern Baja or Donzi (which are absolutely a joke, but who cares?). The hull probably isn't designed for that kind of speed, but trim tabs and maybe a bunch of ballast foward would help. I love the sound of dual engines and the handling would be amazing. Those dual throttles already look sexy - I can't imagine how well the thing would turn when you pinned the outside engine in a corner and cut the inner to idle. You could probably flip it if you got it to dig in in a corner...
>
> Ethan
>
> On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Lee Shuster wrote:
>
> > Why not go with a pair of inline Chevy 250 - 6's ? That would push
> > 320 - 340 hp. Don't you just love imagining the project possibilities
> > when it comes to re-powering with OMC's. Of course the length would
> > intrude on usable interior space, but who cares? The CG would move a little forward, which would be good.
> >
> > I haven't run the numbers, but I think you'd have a 50+ mph, yet very reliable outfit.
> > And the Chevy 6's were absolutely bulletproof (MerCruiser sold tons of
> > them). If you wanted to get carried away you could even try
> > retro-fitting the blocks with Pontiac's innovative OHC which came with a QuadraJet 4MV, then you'd be pushing another 100 hp!
> > Exhaust manifolds might be a problem, however.
> >
> > Of course, it would be cheaper just to build out a 383 or 400 small
> > block chevy, but then you would have to push all that thru a single
> > electric stringer, which would greatly reduce reliability.
> >
> > lee
> >
> >
> >
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > __________________________
> > From: omc-boats-bounces@...
> > [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...]
> > On Behalf Of Scott Veazie
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:48 AM
> > To: omc-boats@...
> > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted
> >
> > Imagine retrofitting that with two 120-140hp inline Chevy
> > fours....should be able to sqeeze those in....a dual deluxe with around 240-280hp!
> >
> >
> > > From: jdood@...
> > > To: omc-boats@...
> > > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:03:00 -0700
> > > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted
> > >
> > > nice, but no windsheild. too bad. if you find out he's parting it
> > > out, i'd love to buy those nav light lenses.
> > >
> > > Jeff D
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sep 22, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jeff LaCoste wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hope these pics go thru, I ran across one of those rare OMC Dual
> > > > Deluxes outside of Port Townsend WA, so I had to pull over and
> > > > take some pics. I wonder what the plan is here with this boat.
> > > >
> > > > Jeff
> > > >
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> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Jeff LaCoste //
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In that case, go for one of those 225hp v6's they had, very quiet, light, and what a punch with two of them!  You could also run a leaner mixture than the 50:1 since the newer units required less oil.  The biggest issue would be getting the intermediate housing to mate up to the powerheads. 
  
   > From: Lee.Shuster@... > To: brodskye@... > Date: Wed, 23 Sep 2009 10:13:02 -0600 > CC: omc-boats@... > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted > > The problem with the little Chevy inline 4's is their power-to-weight ratio. That's what was so ideal about having the dual 480 two strokes. The were ultra-light, feather-weights! > > Another possibility would be to adapt the later OMC 2-stroke V6 outboard engines to an intermediate housing. Then you would have some serious power with very little weight. > > OMC apparently once explored this possibility, but found they could buy GM automotive 4, 6, and 8's cheaper than they could built V4 and V6 2-stroke power heads, so they didn't take the idea any further with respect to sterndrives. > > Lee > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ethan Brodsky [mailto:brodskye@...] > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 9:53 AM > To: Lee Shuster > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted > > Wouldn't it be beautiful with a pair of inline sixes? It'd be no less practical than your typical modern Baja or Donzi (which are absolutely a joke, but who cares?). The hull probably isn't designed for that kind of speed, but trim tabs and maybe a bunch of ballast foward would help. I love the sound of dual engines and the handling would be amazing. Those dual throttles already look sexy - I can't imagine how well the thing would turn when you pinned the outside engine in a corner and cut the inner to idle. You could probably flip it if you got it to dig in in a corner... > > Ethan > > On Wed, 23 Sep 2009, Lee Shuster wrote: > > > Why not go with a pair of inline Chevy 250 - 6's ?  That would push > > 320 - 340 hp. Don't you just love imagining the project possibilities > > when it comes to re-powering with OMC's.  Of course the length would > > intrude on usable interior space, but who cares? The CG would move a little forward, which would be good. > >   > > I haven't run the numbers, but I think you'd have a 50+ mph, yet very reliable outfit. > > And the Chevy 6's were absolutely bulletproof (MerCruiser sold tons of > > them). If you wanted to get carried away you could even try > > retro-fitting the blocks with Pontiac's innovative OHC which came with a QuadraJet 4MV, then you'd be pushing another 100 hp! > > Exhaust manifolds might be a problem, however. > >   > > Of course, it would be cheaper just to build out a 383 or 400 small > > block chevy, but then you would have to push all that thru a single > > electric stringer, which would greatly reduce reliability. > >   > > lee > >   > >   > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________ > > From: omc-boats-bounces@... > > [mailto:omc-boats-bounces@...] > > On Behalf Of Scott Veazie > > Sent: Wednesday, September 23, 2009 8:48 AM > > To: omc-boats@... > > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted > > > > Imagine retrofitting that with two 120-140hp inline Chevy > > fours....should be able to sqeeze those in....a dual deluxe with around 240-280hp! > > > >   > > > From: jdood@... > > > To: omc-boats@...imate.com > > > Date: Tue, 22 Sep 2009 21:03:00 -0700 > > > Subject: Re: [OMC-Boats] 1964 Dual OMC Deluxe Spotted > > > > > > nice, but no windsheild. too bad. if you find out he's parting it > > > out, i'd love to buy those nav light lenses. > > > > > > Jeff D > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sep 22, 2009, at 1:36 PM, Jeff LaCoste wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hope these pics go thru, I ran across one of those rare OMC Dual > > > > Deluxes outside of Port Townsend WA, so I had to pull over and > > > > take some pics. I wonder what the plan is here with this boat. > > > > > > > > Jeff > > > > > > > > <IMG_0100.jpg> > > > > <IMG_0099.jpg> > > > > <IMG_0307.jpg> > > > > <IMG_0311.jpg> > > > > <IMG_0312.jpg> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jeff LaCoste // > > > > 206-781-3477 // > > > > Heavy@... > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > OMC-Boats mailing list > > > > OMC-Boats@...om > > > > http://lists.ultimate.com/mailman/listinfo/omc-boats > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > OMC-Boats mailing list > > > OMC-Boats@... > > > http://lists.ultimate.com/mailman/listinfo/omc-boats > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > __________________________ Insert movie times and more without leaving > > Hotmail®. See how. > > > > -- > <a href="http://www.engr.wisc.edu/~brodskye/"> Ethan Brodsky </a> > _______________________________________________ > OMC-Boats mailing list > OMC-Boats@... > http://lists.ultimate.com/mailman/listinfo/omc-boats <hr />Bing™ brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. <a href='http://www.bing.com/search?q=restaurants&form=MLOGEN&publ=WLHMTAG&crea=TEXT_MLOGEN_Core_tagline_local_1x1' target='_new'>Try it now.</a></body>
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