RE: [omc-boats] (no subject) from Gregory B. Fell on 2006-09-18 (OMC-Boats Mailing List Archive)

From: Gregory B. Fell <gfell@...>
Date: Mon, 18 Sep 2006 18:45:20 -0500

Since I won’t be boating anytime soon, I guess I’m inclined buy the
impeller, tear it down, and if the housing or plate is damaged, order those
items then. Does the following look like the right part (1969 Sportsman
155)? Thanks.

Part Type / Number

Description

List Price

Your Price

Order

18-3086
Replaces OEM # (0777130)

Impeller
18-3086 Impeller OMC 379475

$29.29

$23.43

HYPERLINK
"http://www.aitsafe.com/cf/add.cfm?userid=4190324&units=0.51&scode=LNJ18-308
6&product=18-3086+-+Impeller&return=www.marineengine.com%2Fparts%2Fsierra_pa
rts%2F8024%2F80240718.htm&price=23.43"
6 in stock

Parts shipped to US, Puerto Rico and Canada only. Manuals shipped
Internationally.

Additional information about this part can be found on page HYPERLINK
"http://www.marineengine.com/parts/sierra_parts/8024/80240718.htm"718 of the
2006 Sierra Marine catalog.

Sierra Marine is the market leader for aftermarket marine engine parts.
Sierra products cover every major engine brand and are distributed
worldwide. Sierra offers a comprehensive product line and an unsurpassed
customer satisfaction warranty covering parts and labor.

Gregory B. Fell

The Fell Law Firm

3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700

Dallas, Texas 75219

972-488-8177

214-219-4218 - fax

gfell@...

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From: owner-omc-boats@... [mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of Glenn comcast
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 5:06 PM
To: omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)

Dave,

HYPERLINK "http://glmmarine.com/"http://glmmarine.com/ still manufactures
manifolds for the old engines also many other parts including impellers.
They don't sell to the public but if you go to their web site you can order
for free a very nice 600 page catalogue along with a 100 page manifold
supplement. They have literally 1000's of cross reference's their part
number to OMC, Johnson and Evinrude. You look at their whole catalogue
online but it's in PDF and not very user friendly. Almost any on-line store
I've purchased from the part comes in a GLMMarine bag or box. I've seen the
same part in one store for $99 and in another for $49. The deals are out
there if you look for them.

What I do is look up the part number I need in the catalogue then google it.

Glenn

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:odin@..."David

To: HYPERLINK "mailto:omc-boats@..."omc-boats@...

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 3:46 PM

Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)

UGH! I hate it when that happens! good luck! Dave

Glenn comcast wrote:

I'll have to spend some time looking, my hard drive crashed and I lost my
favorites list last month. Even though I back up to a second hard drive I
lost my manufactures list and over 3000 email addresses.

go2marine.com and iboats.com seem to come to mind.

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:odin@..."David

To: HYPERLINK "mailto:omc-boats@..."omc-boats@...

Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 10:16 AM

Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)

Hey Glenn!
Wow, yeah, at $50 I would agree - where did you find that deal? Dave

Glenn comcast wrote:

Dave,

For what it costs I can't imagine tearing the drive down and not changing
all three items. I did one this summer total for parts all in one kit was
under $50.

Glenn

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From: HYPERLINK "mailto:odin@..."David

To: HYPERLINK "mailto:omc-boats@..."omc-boats@...

Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 3:33 PM

Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)

Jeff,
I have never had to replace the housing - the cover plate, or ware plate
does get grooved up and some say the water can pass back through he grooves
- but I have had some super worn ones and never had a problem - I have not
done one in a number of years now so I can't remember if it was on my OMC or
some junky mercruiser drives I had - but on one of them I was able to just
turn the plate over so the grooved part was outside and a nice smooth
surface against the impeller. Dave

jdood wrote:

Hi Gregory!
Often the ball gears are low enough to pick up water and kick it into the
air through that gap - not a big deal - also, a few models had the spray
hole on the inside by the ball gears and that could be where the water is
coming from if the boat is not low in the water - but the usual steam hole
is on the bottom of the starboard pinion cover. Replacing the impeller is
not a difficult job - and I would say one rarely has to replace the housing
- sometimes the cover plate gets badly worn and should be replaced, but even
that is not very often - and you may find that the impeller is fine - not
cracking or chewed up anywhere - in which case I would leave well enough
alone - or put in a new one and keep the old as a spare. I am sure if by
chance you do need new parts some one in the group will have the numbers for
you – Dave

On mine, the impellor was literally in pieces. All the flappers had broken
and the broken pieces were spinning around in the housing with it. the
“expert” I took it to said the slightest surface damage on the inside of the
housing can cause the rubber to deteriorate fast on the new impellor….it
seemed to make sense, but who knows…..i could’ve been scammed a bit.

Gregory B. Fell wrote:

I haven’t had my 69 Sportsman 155 out this entire summer. Busy at work and
a lake down 14 ft (Texas drought) to blame. Now with the cooler fall
weather upon me, I’d like to do a few things in my driveway. This
discussion regarding the tell-tale stream of water raises a question of my
own.

1. Near the end of the season last year, I noticed, while at idle,
water was spraying up from the stern drive onto the engine cover. I didn’t
have time to do much more than lay over the back and try to see where it was
coming from. It appeared to be coming from a location near the ball gears
and spraying (not a stream) up through the gap. Any ideas?

2. I’d like to replace the impeller this winter. I believe the
general consensus this summer has been to replace the housing as well. I’ve
purchased the Selog manual and am ready to go. What I would appreciate (for
my own peace of mind) is advice regarding the correct part numbers and where
you would recommend I purchase them.

Thanks.

Gregory B. Fell

The Fell Law Firm

3300 Oak Lawn Avenue, Suite 700

Dallas, Texas 75219

972-488-8177

214-219-4218 - fax

HYPERLINK "mailto:gfell@..."gfell@...

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From: HYPERLINK
"mailto:owner-omc-boats@..."owner-omc-boats@... [HYPERLINK
"mailto:owner-omc-boats@..."mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
Behalf Of jdood
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:37 PM
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:omc-boats@..."omc-boats@...
Subject: RE: [omc-boats] (no subject)

Jeff, my advise to you is to ask any mechanic you propose to use if there is
a water stream out of the sterndrive - if they say no - run away from them
as fast and as far as you can!

Yeah, agreed. But this guy seems legit, has a big shop, boats only, OMC
certified, etc.

Second, always feel the exhaust manifolds - if water is circulating they
will be warm, not hot - and you are ok - if hot, you are not ok.

That is one I will definitely try…..

As to the power loss - the first thing to check is the compression - if any
cylinder is low, say less than 120 psi, you could well have a cracked head -
the most common crack is between the intake and exhaust valves which are
very close together and the crack is usually very thin and hard to see -
usually with this type of crack the engine will run fine when cold and then
lose power as soon as it heats up - so it is best to check compression when
it is hot. Dave

And if it’s a cracked head, that spells new engine, right? Not fixable,
right? (gulp).

jdood wrote:

Ideal timing for this topic. I am dealing with my hot light coming on
frequently. I have a 155hp Deluxe. I am on my 2nd mechanic now, problem
still not solved. Going for a water test tomorrow with him. Just paid a
bundle to have a new impeller and impeller housing replaced, and it
definitely needed to be done. I just didn’t want to attempt it myself – not
still during the season atleast. So now I have a nice new impeller, and
supposedly a new engine water pump too (according to the 1st mechanic). So
in theory, water should be flowing through the engine just fine. But the
hot light still is coming on, and worse, I have barely any HP at full
throttle. It tops out at about 10 mph. Not good, I know. For some stupid
reason, the temp light was wired by some previous owner so It only comes on
when the instrument lights are turned on. And of course I only discovered
that after several times out. Most of those times it ran great, just
wouldn’t start back up when hot. But the past 3 times it has had this
throttle problem. I am just hoping nothing has been serious damaged.
Anyway – will hopefully know more tomorrow after the water test. But my
main question is this:

I have always had outboards, all of which had a nice easy to see tell tale
stream of water shooting out the side when things were working right. I
asked 2 boat mechanics on separate occasions if stern drives were supposed
to have the same thing, both said no – that outboards do, but i/o’s don’t.
But this post says otherwise. So do they or don’t they? And if not, why
not? How are you supposed to tell if water is circulating properly?

jeff

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"mailto:owner-omc-boats@..."mailto:owner-omc-boats@...] On
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Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2006 1:20 PM
To: HYPERLINK "mailto:omc-boats@..."omc-boats@...
Subject: Re: [omc-boats] (no subject)

Curt,
If the temp light is on the first thing to check is the stern drive while it
is running - on the starboard side of the drive you should see a steady
stream of water shooting out - if not shut her down - that would mean the
impeller is not pumping at all. Next, if water is coming out open the engine
cover and feel the exhaust manifolds - they should be cool enough to hold
your hand on - if not and they feel really hot when the light is on, then
shut her down - it would likely be the engine water pump, or the thermostat
that needs attention. As to wintering, and I know people will flip at this,
but I have seven OMC's and have had them for years and have always just
opened the petcocks on each side of the block - never bothered taking off
the water pump hoses etc. - just make sure the boat is realatively level and
the block will drain down and you will not have any freezing problems. I
keep an OMC V6 Sportsman on the davits on the back of my houseboat - and I
have used it at 10 below zero - when I lift it back out of the water all I
do is open those two petcocks - the only real problem I have is remembering
to close them when I go for a ride - of course eventually warm water will
creep up to my feet - a sure, but gentle reminder! Dave

Curt Broek wrote:

Group,
I am a relatively new owner. I have a Sportsman 155 acquired in a cabin
purchase. Its in terrific condition. I'll post pics on the other site
sometime soon.. I have a relatively basic question. The temp light goes on
after a few minutes in the water. Do I need to replace the water pump and
if so, do I need to know anything special to accomplish that. Where do I
get parts? Also, I need to winterize it soon. Could anyone give me some
pointers there too?
Much appreciated,
Curt

On 9/13/06 2:35 PM, "Curt Broek" HYPERLINK
"mailto:cabroek@..."<cabroek@...> wrote:

David,
Here are my vitals:

Curt Broek
3941 Greenview Dr.
Urbandale, IA
HYPERLINK "mailto:cabroek@..."cabroek@...
'68 Sportsman 155
(in Hackensack, MN)

I have had trouble getting emails to be sent when I reply. Let me know if
you get this.
Curt

On 9/13/06 9:10 AM, "David" HYPERLINK
"mailto:odin@..."<odin@...> wrote:

Ok, as all the members on the membership listing know, I have sent out
an updated listing - but only to the listed members - if anyone out
there has not gotten a listing, and should have, let me know - Also, if
anyone out there has not sent me all the info to get on the list, I am
ready to add anyone at anytime - just let me know the following:

Name:
Address:
Telephone #:
Email Address:
OMC Boats owned:

And I'll get you on the list and get a copy of the list back to you. Dave
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